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Grand Theft Auto Led Teen to Kill

Zonk posted more than 9 years ago | from the personal-responsibility-is-for-old-people dept.

The Courts 1311

Varg Vikernes writes "FOXNews reports on a lawsuit that claims the video game 'Grand Theft Auto' led a teenager to shoot two police officers and a dispatcher to death in 2003, mirroring violent acts depicted in the popular game. 'What has happened in Alabama is that four companies participated in the training of Devin... to kill three men,' attorney Jack Thompson told The Tuscaloosa News, which reported the suit's filing. Thompson is also filing suit against Wal-Mart, Gamestop, Take-Two and Sony." Gamespot has coverage of this story as well. Thompson has made something of a career out of lawsuits of this nature.

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I'm pissed. (5, Insightful)

WhatAmIDoingHere (742870) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699828)

When will it be "Parents irresponsible with how they raised their child leads to deaths"?

When will the blame be placed where it belongs, with the people who's job is to raise this child until he is old enough to support himself?

What the hell happened to being responsible for your own actions?

If I ever rob someone at an ATM I'll sue NBC because I saw someone on Law & Order do it once.

What the FUCK is wrong with this country?

Re:I'm pissed. (-1, Redundant)

tussey (824182) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699851)

Agreed. These kind of accusations against video game companies are outrageous!

Re:I'm pissed. (-1, Flamebait)

mc6809e (214243) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699857)

As a parent there is only so much you can do.

Unless you lock your kid in the basement, he's going to be raised, whether you like it or not, by plenty of other people.

Re:I'm pissed. (5, Insightful)

micromoog (206608) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699921)

Unless you lock your kid in the basement, he's going to be raised, whether you like it or not, by plenty of other people.

But mainly you. You have to teach him to handle other influences appropriately; that's in fact your main job once the pooping/feeding part is self-sustaining. YOU have to equip him with the tools to differentiate right from wrong, reality from fantasy, exciting electronic offers from spam, etc.

Re:I'm pissed. (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11699883)

You have a point. But your headline could be tailored to the specific situation:

Parents allow video game to raise child

Seriously, I mean next thing you know we're going to start blaming homosexuality on Will and Grace. Give it a break people. Or rather, get a dining table and stop eating your freaking meals in front of your TV. It's a form of entertainment, not a shrine.

Re:I'm pissed. (5, Insightful)

dfenstrate (202098) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699934)

What the FUCK is wrong with this country?

At this point, I think it's more fair to ask "What the fuck is wrong with this kid, and his parents?"

We know what's wrong with the lawyer. He has no ethics and thinks there's money to be made.

Now, if he consisently succeeds in winning these lawsuits, then we can ask what's wrong with this country. The answer is already ' a lot of things'

Re:I'm pissed. (2, Insightful)

Pig Hogger (10379) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699988)

We know what's wrong with the lawyer. He has no ethics and thinks there's money to be made.
There is nothing wrong with the lawyer. He's just doing his job, which is getting his client off the hook. Just as well as the prosecutor is doing his job, which is nailing the perp.

Re:I'm pissed. (1)

Neff (859976) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699941)

When you have a country with this many lawyers, they will act like businessmen to keep paying the bills. A suit like this promises a huge reward for a settlement, so the "moral" or "rational" implications of their actions go out the window.

Re:I'm pissed. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11699945)

Damn, I was going to make the "Law & Order - special videogame crimes unit" joke!

They just had an episode "ripped from the headlines" about a similar scenario.

Re:I'm pissed. (1)

Jane_the_Great (778338) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699954)

Why are you blaming the parents? Just blame the person that did it. Plenty of kids have had shitty upbringing - they didn't go out and kill cops.

You want personal responsibility - put the responsibility on the person responsible then.

Re:I'm pissed. (5, Insightful)

rwven (663186) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699986)

Completely agreed. And even without the whole "Parent's raising" part of it (because parents seem to have a problem with that) what about the ridiculous legal system in this country actually holding the people responsible for their actions. I'm so sick of seeing guilt pawned off. It's nothing but a finger-pointing game.

In the 30's, if you stuck your arm into a pulley and got it taken off, it was your fault because any idiot knows not to put their arm into machinery....now it's the company you work fors fault. lame. The entire country has gone to "blame someone else."

Re:I'm pissed. (1, Insightful)

fizban (58094) | more than 9 years ago | (#11700011)

The real question is:

What's wrong with people that they think a game that allows you to beat up women, shoot cops and steal cars is fun?

Re:I'm pissed. (1)

AviLazar (741826) | more than 9 years ago | (#11700012)

Well you know the "Each man is responsible for his own actions" doesn't apply since GTA came out. I mean, didnt you know, killings only happend after GTA was released on the market; prior to that nobody was ever murdered.

Doesn't this fall under frivolous law suits? I hope the makers of GTA get to sue the crap out of the lawyer who decided to sue them. I can only imagne the conversation he had with your client "No son, it is not your fault that you 'popped a cap in their ass', it is the fault of one of your computer games."

Yeah, right (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11699829)

And Super Mario Bros. made me eat magic mushrooms.

Oh, wait...

Re:Yeah, right (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11699885)

Nethack made me chase alphanumeric characters!

That Alphabits mascot guy never forgave me... his suit was RUINED...

Re:Yeah, right (1)

dominick (550229) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699896)

MOD PARENT UP!

Obligatory (1)

sik0fewl (561285) | more than 9 years ago | (#11700030)

"Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." - Marcus Brigstocke

AND (1)

Prince Vegeta SSJ4 (718736) | more than 9 years ago | (#11700034)

try to lay some pipe for the Princess with my Donkey Kong, come here and let me hammer that a****, damn maybe I did have some magic mushrooms

Americans need to get themselves straight.. (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11699833)

I don't get America.. "Violent video games cause kids to commit crimes, we should ban them." Yet every motherfucking person in the Bible belt owns at least one Gun. Perhaps the kid wouldn't have shot the cops if he couldn't have got access to a Gun.

Before you moderate me flamebait.. please bear in mind that around fifty eight thousand [guncite.com] Americans are killed by guns every year. Yes, that's around eleven times as man as in 9/11 and that is EVERY year. Bush would do a better job of protecting americans by removing firearms than countering terroism. You're more likely to be killed by a pig than a terrorist - and your around a million times more likely to be killed by a gun than by Osma.

America needs to stop living in fear and start addressing the real threats to society - one of them being the gun culture.

Yours Sincerely,

AC

Re:Americans need to get themselves straight.. (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11699865)

The people that want to ban violent video games aren't necessarily the ones that want to keep guns legal. Most of the people that support gun ownership probably also support personal responsibility.

Re:Americans need to get themselves straight.. (-1, Redundant)

tussey (824182) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699905)

mod parent up

Re:Americans need to get themselves straight.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11699909)

Does that include people shot in self-defence by victims and police officers?

And nice idea posting as AC on one machine and modding yourself underrated on another. Nice abuse.

Re:Americans need to get themselves straight.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11699923)

Yet every motherfucking person in the Bible belt owns at least one Gun.

wow they are KINKY down there.

I never knew that the bible belt was full of mother fuckers.... i though that was only a wierd side on internet porn.

Re:Americans need to get themselves straight.. (1)

LordNimon (85072) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699949)

Bush would do a better job of protecting americans by removing firearms than countering terroism.

Theoretically you're correct, but it is impossible to remove all firearms. In fact, the more restrictions you place on firearm ownership, the more like a firearm will be owned by a criminal than a law-abiding citizen (who would use that firearm to defend himself from the aforementioned criminal).

Re:Americans need to get themselves straight.. (1)

BoomerSooner (308737) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699981)

It's not impossible, simply make selling bullets a felony with a 10 year minimum sentence in a federal prison.

Guns don't work without bullets, they are what we need to make illegal.

Re:Americans need to get themselves straight.. (1, Insightful)

Jane_the_Great (778338) | more than 9 years ago | (#11700021)

No, theoretically he is not correct. People have a right to defend themselves with weapons. Why should the government be the only entity in this theoretical world who is allowed to own a gun?

Communism doesn't theoretically work either. I can see you making the argument to say that theoretically works as well. It doesn't. People are not equal.

Re:Americans need to get themselves straight.. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11699973)

Do the demographics. You'll find that the vast majority of those deaths are NOT in the "Bible Belt where every motherfucker owns at least one gun".

Maybe if we removed the criminals that are using the firearms we'd have a better result.

A shitload of people die from car wrecks too, should we ban those?

Because making guns illegal would make things safe (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11699975)

Just look at Washington, DC. Handguns are illegal, yet it has one of the highest murder and violent crime rates in the country. There are places in the city you simply do not go ever, even in daylight, because of how dangerous they are.

Re:Americans need to get themselves straight.. (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11699984)

RTFA The kid took the gun from the police, gun control would have no effect on this.

Re:Americans need to get themselves straight.. (1)

Gildogg (631041) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699989)

I completely agree with you here.
People will argue that it's their right under the 2nd Amendment to "Bear Arms".
I can bet that most of those people have never read the 2nd Amendment. It says "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
However the NRA will leave out the part about the Militia. The 2nd Amendment says that you can have a gun to support the Militia....If you are in the military you get to have a gun...not just because you have a can of Skoal in your back pocket and know where to buy ammo.

Re:Americans need to get themselves straight.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11700016)

If we take away guns people will kill each other with knives. Guns are not the problem. People have had guns for centuries but they didn't just shoot people like they do now. The problem is with the people.

And BTW, there were 1,312,990 abortions in 2000. America needs to start addressing the real threats to society.

Re:Americans need to get themselves straight.. (4, Insightful)

DeathFlame (839265) | more than 9 years ago | (#11700020)

I live in Canada. We have lots of guns here too. We don't shoot other people.

It's not the guns that's the problem. The people that want guns to use them, will get guns.

Re:Americans need to get themselves straight.. (2, Informative)

nasdev (836518) | more than 9 years ago | (#11700029)

While i agree with you on American weapon legislation, this case has nothing to do with it. According to the Register anyway, the kid grabbed one of the cops' guns.

Parents? (1)

samtihen (798412) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699836)

Alright, I get that seeing violence tends to make people more casual about it. But if you can't control yourself to the point that you go out and kill people, something is certainly happening that the lawyer isn't talking about.

I see that they are suing the stores that sold the kid the game (it was rated M, he wasn't 17). Anyone want to explain where the PARENTS are while this is happening? What about the movies he sees? What about REAL LIFE? I mean, this stuff really does happen, you can't just pretend it doesn't. Kids under 17 do watch the news.

I agree, it sucks. Kids are getting more and more exposed to violence, and it makes it harder for parents to control it. But the people who need to take responsibility for this are the parents and the kid himself.

Re:Parents? (1)

justkarl (775856) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699872)

I read that kids are now telling their parents that "M" stands for "Mild". Talk about a call for parental responsibility.

Re:Parents? (1)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699980)

lright, I get that seeing violence tends to make people more casual about it.

That is a blatent lie.

I and others I know play the most violent games available. we get excited when we overkill others in the game and go on murderous rampages.

When you see or witness real death it makes you sick to your stomache and horrified.

It's the mentially ill that can not tell the difference, that can not seperate imaginary from reality, and this kid was mential, no question about it.

Re:Parents? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11700038)

So tell me why vet's from vietnam and the other conflicts dont come back killing everyone they see? instead of playing a game they got to kill people for real so they shoud be numb to it and consider it part of normality.

Oh wait, fake violence tends to not make people more casual about it, you are simply making that up.

Wow! (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11699849)

Good thing the kid's parents had no part in this! Afterall, it's only their job to supervise their children, teach them right from wrong, and in general make them everything they are.

aqazaqa

Does anyone know... (5, Insightful)

00squirrel (772984) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699852)

...the exact date personal responsibility died?

Re:Does anyone know... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11699933)

So bye-bye, Miss American Pie...

Game-related murders are passe.. (1)

bitkari (195639) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699853)

I'm hanging out for the "War on Terror made me want to kill" expose.

Re:Game-related murders are passe.. (1)

ifranto (851514) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699958)

or for that matter how many crimes could be blamed on Abu Ghraib The army does it why can't I?

Re:Game-related murders are passe.. (1)

SmokeHalo (783772) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699961)

Maybe that'll happen with the next Ghost Recon game...

Just another excuse (1)

teckjunkie (840404) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699858)

Sweet now the media is teaching us if we have no defense we can blame it on video games. It's the teen version of "battered woman syndrome"

This just in... (1)

Audigy (552883) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699863)

"Another case of parents not displaying proper parenting skills."

News at 11.

The blame has to be put on someone... why dig as deep as blaming the retailers that sold the games to this kid, instead of going straight to the source - the kid's homelife and relationship with parents.

i read a book about the boston strangler (1)

hsmith (818216) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699864)

and it made me kill people!!!

There have always been ways to get stupid ideas of things to do, always, books, radio, tv. People need to take responsibility for their own actions. Yes the game prob gave the kid the "great idea", but he was probably a bad egg and would have done somethign simular in the long run.

Ridiculous (1)

Rew190 (138940) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699871)

Really, how difficult is it to acknowledge that for a human being to not be able to distingusih between reality and fantasy THAT THERE WAS SOMETHING FUNDAMENTALLY WRONG WITH SAID INDIVIDUAL IN THE FIRST PLACE?

Re:Ridiculous (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11699962)

Yes, and that flaw is that he is a child.

In Other News... (2, Funny)

sidepocket (817256) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699873)

Pac Man made me eat my father.

I only had a few seconds before my power ran out, I didn't know what else to do :(

Lawsuits (1)

tehshen (794722) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699876)

The suit announced Tuesday seeks damages from the game's manufacturers and two stores that allegedly sold it to Devin Thompson.

I can see the point of suing the manufacturers, but the stores? What did they do wrong?

Re:Lawsuits (1)

9mm Censor (705379) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699977)

Allegedly sold the game to someone that was too young.

Re:Lawsuits (1)

CPM User (582899) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699997)

I think it's because they sold him the game when he was under age.

Re:Lawsuits (1)

tehshen (794722) | more than 9 years ago | (#11700027)

Oh, he was 17 when he bought the game. I suppose that wouldn't've made him kill people, then?

Training (2, Insightful)

teiresias (101481) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699880)

And I'm holding the companies responible for training me to eat yellow orbs, stack falling bricks, and jump on King Kupa's head. Those bastards have wrecked my morals.

I'm sure the parents did plenty of training too.

There's gotta be some emoticon for rolling your eyes.

current laws did this. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11699881)

He was probably going to be arrested for downloading an mp3 or ripping a DVD.

He chose to kill 3 people in order to get a lighter punishment.

Yes, I'm being sarcastic, but if you look at the current laws it's true.

Let's not forget... (1)

JossiRossi (840900) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699886)

All those little kids who play "The Sims" will all grow up to be responsible and productive parents. All we have to do is wait a little and all that good "all controlling game influence" will affect the world positivly. That or the real problem is people who learn life lessons FROM A VIDEO GAME! I'm sorry but I love shooting cops in GTA: San Andreas, but I have never thought that it was anything other than fake. Maybe parents should learn to actually raise their kids rather than let TV, Video Games, and Schools do the job for them.

Only in the USA.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11699887)

Only in the USA the creators of games get sued instead of
-the parents
-the gun sellers ...

Who cares? (2, Insightful)

sdMMk (857216) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699890)

Silly lawsuits like this happen all the time - anyone has the right to file them (like fat people suing McD's) - post the story when the lawyers win, and then I'll start protesting/rioting.

We keep seeing a repeat of the same thread every 6 months, with nothing new to add. Whenever an interesting thread does come along, it's usually dominated by .

Just played Quake III (1)

9mm Censor (705379) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699895)

Damn, it taught me how to rocket jump.

Time to go kill some people and escape by rocket jumping over fences.

Popular culture teaches kids to kill (0)

Nine Tenths of The W (829559) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699898)

Just look at Leviticus.

We've discovered the cause... (5, Insightful)

Nijika (525558) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699899)

Finally, we can lay off the easy access to guns, apathetic education, parental neglect / abuse, drugs, low self-esteem, and a rampant culture of violence and consumerism... The real culprit here was a video game.

MY HOME TOWN ON SLASHDOT, DANG (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11699900)

Yeah, this happened in my town...really unfortunate event. He killed two police officers and a dispatcher after finding a way to get the gun from the policemen's holster. Personally I don't think it was the videogames as much as he was probably strung out on some opiate at the time. Plus, most of the school teachers would atest that the kid had a mean streak.

Could we put some quotes around that? (0, Offtopic)

grasshoppa (657393) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699901)

Seriously, could we put some quotes around that title? Aside from being sensational, it makes it seem as if that's Slashdot's official line, instead the allegations of another.

And I know, just *know*, slashdot editors don't think that. ( well, hope really. Possibly denial, I'll let you know )

one quote sums this up (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11699904)

"There are more love songs than anything else. If songs could make you do something we'd all love one another." --Frank Zappa

How about some responsibility (1)

ColdZero (668801) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699910)

How about "What has happened in Alabama is that one person couldn't seperate fiction from reality... and killed three men."

Did Wal-Mart shoot those people? Did Gamestop? No, it was one wackjob, or perhaps not a wackjob but somebody who doesn't want responsibility, who pulled the trigger that killed those people, why should those companies be responsible.

I often wonder if these people can't really seperate fiction from reality or if its that "blame the companies" is such an easy defense when you don't want to accept the responsibility of killing 3 people.

I can't wait for... (1)

Audigy (552883) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699912)

The upcoming trial about the kid who crucified his classmate.

"The Bible made me do it."

Oh wait, there will be no trial. After all, we know the Bible is incapable of any wrongdoing.

Surely this has happened before, but mainstream news will never get wind of it.

*eyes roll down the hallway*

I can see suing the stores... (1)

Radres (776901) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699914)

The stores messed up by allowing a minor to purchase the game, but suing Take Two Interactive? All they did was make a product. It's not their fault how it got distributed by their retailers.

Yeah, (0, Flamebait)

Sebby (238625) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699924)

And I'm sure the high availability (thanks to the constitution) of guns had nothing to do with it!

It's a good thing. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11699928)

It sure is a good thing nobody ever takes that Bible thing too seriously. Next thing you'd know, there would be people killing each other over the color of their skin, who they sleep with, their nationality, their political affiliation or their religion.

By the way, I've played fighter-jet games with a console before. I don't think X-Box trained me to be a fighter pilot (I'm sure the controls in a fighter-jet are different than an x-box controller - just like they're also different from a gun or a car).

I guess if this arguement can be made by the lawyers, then the United States Government is responsible for training kids how to kill... re: Americas Army.

And in other shock news... (1, Funny)

gowen (141411) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699929)

... it's funny, isn't it, that when Lawyer's claim games inspire these sorts of things, its always the games made by fantastically wealthy corporations, who might be willing to settle out of court for large sums.

Besides, as Marcus Brigstocke [marcusbrigstocke.com] wrote:
"If Pacman had affected us as kids we'd be running around in dark rooms, munching pills and listening to repetitive music."
(Link includes groovy retro PacMan game).

meanwhile back in Iraq (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11699931)

Faux news reports on thousands of Iraqi families bringing lawsuits against the US government for sponsoring and developing PS2 war games and using these games to induce young US recruits for a glamarous battle in Iraq and soon to be Iran (TV schedules are already penned for an october suprise!!).

GTA inspiring violence (2, Insightful)

Jakhel (808204) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699935)

If you think it's bad now, wait until 2007 when this [gamespot.com] comes out.

Inevitably, parents will buy this for their children, then complain about gaming companies when they notice little 10 year old jimmy is beating up hookers, forming gangs with other 10 year olds, and killing cops online.

Games? Alcohol? Any Difference? (5, Insightful)

stinerman (812158) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699936)

Alcohol-related accidents kill people every day. I don't see anyone trying to put Budweiser or Anheuser-Busch out of business.

It seems rather odd that if video games influence poor decisions, it is the fault of the game manufacturer and/or distributor, but when people make bad decisions and drive when drunk, its just the fault of the person.

I love double standards.

Been there, done that (-1, Flamebait)

kanwisch (202654) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699938)

For those who lived through the 80s and the ire toward Dungeons and Dragons, recognition that this too will pass is a given.

Unless you recognize the greater conservative nature of the US as a whole, maybe.

Re:Been there, done that (1)

SmokeHalo (783772) | more than 9 years ago | (#11700039)

Idiocies like this lawsuit make me want to start playing D&D again just so I can kick somebody's ass.

Now, where did I put that vorpal sword...

Scapegoat (2, Insightful)

RU_Areo (804621) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699939)

Games have nothing to do with anything. It takes a certian mentality in order to kill and games just don't have the influence to alter someone's mentality. What ever happened to responsibility for your actions. Instead of banning violent games they should ban people from making dumbass excuses for the things that they do.

Whatever happenned to... (2, Insightful)

Pig Hogger (10379) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699940)

... " The devil made me do it " ????

Not a troll (1)

LordAlpha (247426) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699944)

Welcome to Alabama!

(Be careful not to step on the bullsh*t)

Get a better lawyer (2, Insightful)

sbrown123 (229895) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699946)

I think that Jack Thompson does this for his own personal fame rather than for the best interests of his client. If I were that teen, I would dump Jack Thompson NOW.

Come on people (1)

Prince Vegeta SSJ4 (718736) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699956)

and by that I mean the legal system. I am certainly not the most liberal person, and believe in limiting access to Violent Games by a Rating system or some such idea.

In other Words, if the parents allow the teen to have the game, it is fine by me, even if I don't agree with it.

But the problem here is not in the game, it is either with the parents or the teen himself, even society. If he can't distinguish fantasy from reality, it is not the games fault (or the publishers /creators).

I do believe society has a responsibility to itself not to always push the blame on someone else - - i.e. some claim it is the fault of the game only, some say it is the parents fault only, etc. IMHO it is most likely a combination of factors, which end up feeding of one another to lead to a bad end, some one needs to step up and break the cycle, yes, but to blame the game is ridiculous.

Sorry if this was incoherent, bad week.

Doom (1)

JohnHegarty (453016) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699963)

And Doom made me go to mars and fight creatures from hell...

and f1gp is why I won my first formula one title....

and...etc...etc...

That's funny (4, Funny)

stinky wizzleteats (552063) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699965)

GTA taught me that shooting cops pretty much always results in a quick and violent death. He must have better cheat codes than I do.

It makes sense (1)

iamatlas (597477) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699968)

I poisoned my brother and married his widow after I read Hamlet.

It would be cool if games did make him kill (1)

scourfish (573542) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699971)

Because then I will have found my medium for global conquest.

Parents? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11699982)

Y'know, maybe if the parents gave a shit about what their kids were playing, we wouldn't have stuff like this happening. However, I play Counter-Strike, Unreal Tournament, and Metal Gear Solid, yet have never gone out, bought a semi-automatic rifle and picked people off of the street.

Violent video games aren't the problem. It's the fact that kids are increasingly subjected to violence. The games are only the expression of what some of them really feel.

so what (1)

joNDoty (774185) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699983)

Even if the video game DID give this kid the idea to slaughter somebody, that makes it OK...how??? Take some f'in responsibility.

What the hell? (1)

SpermanHerman (763707) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699985)

What the hell ever happened to crazy? This kid wasn't influenced by video games, rap, movies, or pr0n; this kid is just plain crazy. Put the cuffs on and send him to a pump-me-in-the-ass prison.

Another fine example of frivolous lawsuits.

Wow, Varg submitted this? (0, Offtopic)

JWhiton (215050) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699994)

Does anyone know the significance of the submitter's moniker? Seems a bit odd that he'd be submitting a story like this.

Pacman = bad (1)

DroopyStonx (683090) | more than 9 years ago | (#11699998)

Pacman teaches kids how to eat small pills and run around aimlessly listening to horrible electronic music.

Grand Theft Auto can also Kill Computers! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11699999)

Grand theft auto led me to kill my teens computer. It is amazing what a little solder in the wrong places can do to the digital monster!

Serious subject.... (2, Interesting)

Jimpqfly (790794) | more than 9 years ago | (#11700002)

Strange this kind of thing never happen in EU ... (or I'm not informed). But why ?

Its not enough to defeat this lawsuit... (1)

voss (52565) | more than 9 years ago | (#11700003)

The people being sued should countersue for the plaintiffs using frivolous lawsuits as a means of harassment. They should seek punitive damages a means of stopping these frivolous lawsuits.

I totally agree (1)

oliana (181649) | more than 9 years ago | (#11700006)

Because of my obsession with computer games, I feel that darkness will lead to me being eating by a grue, I can keep my pets alive by feeding them monsters I've killed, my words are back by the power of nuclear weapons, and XYZZY is magic word that will transport me back to the dungeon.

I just have to figure out how to pronounce XYZZY.

I see your lawsuit and raise you another (1)

Walkiry (698192) | more than 9 years ago | (#11700008)

What about a lawsuit against the parents of the kid for raising him to be a killer instead? Hey, if we're starting to blame people for his behaviour, shouldn't we sue the ones who had the most influence on him?

GTA Is Not Responsible (1)

Space_Soldier (628825) | more than 9 years ago | (#11700013)

This child is responsible for his own actions. Even if his stupid brain followed something he saw in GTA, it is still not GTA's fault. GTA is mature rated, not teen rated. Therefore, he should not have played the game. Neither the people who sold/bought the game for him, nor Rockstar Games is responsible for him blurring the vision between reality and video games. He is a moron, who now has to pay for his actions. Obviously, the job of the defence lawyer is to save his client. Hence, he will say anything that will let the child to get off, which I doubt that it will. It is the same with that kid and the depression drug that has been on the news. It is pure bollocks.

Frivilous Lawsuits (5, Interesting)

phidipides (59938) | more than 9 years ago | (#11700014)

Do other countries have frivilous lawsuits of this sort, or is it primarily a US-only thing? The idea that you can get rich by suing someone, or that misfortune entitles you to not just fair compensation but riches, is one that I wish could be changed. As an example of how these suits affect me personally, I hate that my health insurance costs are so high; perhaps the costs aren't all due to malpractice suits, but they definitely make up a significant part of it.

One thought I've had as to how these suits could be curbed is to allow judges in civil cases to set a bond, similar to what is done in criminal cases. Since lawyers currently take any case based on the fact that they get a (large) percentage of the settlement, there is no cost to sue, and a huge cost to defend. The person bringing the suit would have to put up the bond, and they would get it back when the case was settled or went to jury. If the case was later thrown out by the judge then the bond would not be returned, and might even go to the defendent to help with legal costs. In cases where obvious harm was done the judge could set the bond very low, but for trivial suits this could become a disincentive for bringing the suit in the first case.

Does any other country do this? How do other countries prevent frivilous lawsuits?

Doesn't the US Army have a game (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11700022)

that trains people to kill? Oh, that's right, you can't sue the US goverment. Bad luck for lawyers and good luck for us. Otherwise, the deficit would be a lot larger given the amounts juries award. "One zillion dollars!"

He shot the officers with their own gun (1)

Nine Tenths of The W (829559) | more than 9 years ago | (#11700028)

Why the hell wasn't he handcuffed?

EVIL GAMES! (0)

ShaggyB (849018) | more than 9 years ago | (#11700033)

I can't stop eating. I just have this urge to eat and eat and eat. It's all becuase i saw it on this game where a yellow circle man moves through a maze and eats these yellow dots. I...JUST...CANT ...CONTROL..THE .....URGE....TO ...EAT!!! I'm going to sue who ever made that game. Yea that's it.

If suing video game developers is fair game.. (5, Insightful)

defile (1059) | more than 9 years ago | (#11700035)

..then so is suing priests, politicians, and Dr. Phil.

If I said the President of the United States taught me that solving problems with violence was appropriate, which is why I shot my next door neighbor, I'd be called a lunatic. But if I say video games made me do it, I'm just a victim?

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