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Felony For Refreshing a Web Page?

Zonk posted more than 8 years ago | from the dangerous-pixelantes dept.

The Courts 965

therandomw writes "An 18 year-old boy was recently arrested in Ohio for telling fellow students to refresh the schools web page in order to slow down the server. He is being charged with a felony and is currently being held in jail. According to Canton City Prosecutor Frank Forchione 'This new technology has created a whole wave of crimes, and we're just trying to find ways to solve them.'"

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must be more zero tolerance (5, Insightful)

yagu (721525) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412505)

AFAIK this barely even brushes up against being a felony, but let the school officials have their fun! Had they just ignored this and let it go (maybe take the kid aside and dress him down a bit), this would have slipped off the radar in half a day. As it is, they've loaded, locked, and are about to fire, aiming right at their own feet.

BTW, I'm just wondering who the first brave soul in slashdot is who will actually post the schools URL. (Also, BTW, it's pretty easily found in Google: Lake High School Uniontown Ohio, duh).

Re:must be more zero tolerance (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14412538)

http://lake.stark.k12.oh.us/hs/ [k12.oh.us]

this one?

Re:must be more zero tolerance (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14412596)

Boy if they thought a few people in a chat room would be bad....

Or

Witness the firepower of a fully armed and operational slashdotting!!

Re:must be more zero tolerance (1)

thx1138_az (163286) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412614)

They've been ./'d already. Is this a crime? :-)

Re:must be more zero tolerance (4, Funny)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412647)

Does this mean I'm going to be charged with a felony? I can't wait for the extradition hearing?

"Your honor, the defendant is accused of taking part in a Slashdotting of a high school web server in the United States, and faces felony charges."

Re:must be more zero tolerance (0, Redundant)

mgrennan (2067) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412542)

or more simply go to:

http: // lake.stark.k12.oh.us/hs

Re:must be more zero tolerance (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14412547)

it's already down

http://lake.stark.k12.oh.us/ [k12.oh.us]

Re:must be more zero tolerance (4, Funny)

Bin_jammin (684517) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412585)

Maybe someone will post a mirror and we can reload that. That'll show 'em.

Re:must be more zero tolerance (1, Informative)

Noxx (74567) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412556)

How strange, all the results I found on Google are showing server errors...

Canton Law Dept page (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14412581)

Since the school's site is already DDoS'd, here is the Canton Law Dept [cityofcanton.com] . Let's see how fast we can take the prosecutor down.

Re:must be more zero tolerance (5, Insightful)

SoCalChris (573049) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412624)

From TFA:

It's not the first time local officials have investigated situations where students are misusing computers. Forchione noted a 2005 case in which four Jackson High School students were charged with misdemeanors after being caught accessing the school computer system. Some grades were changed.

So, breaking in to the school's computer system, and changing grades is a misdemeanor, but encouraging people to visit the school's publicly posted website is a felony?

Yeah, I know the kid had malicious intentions, but why is this a felony when actually breaking into their system and causing damage is only a misdemeanor?

"Michael said it was a joke," Forchione said. "We showed him how we deal with this kind of joke."

This prosecutor needs to be smacked.

Re:must be more zero tolerance (3, Insightful)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412671)

If I tell all my friends to drive up and down mainstreet a thousand times a day to wear down the pavement, have I committed a felony?

Oh Crap! (5, Funny)

rodgster (671476) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412507)

Fark!

I just commited 7 felonies waiting for this story to appear.

Re:Oh Crap! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14412710)

It's my new home page. How many years will they put me away for that?

-AC

Must Have A Pretty Bad Webserver (2, Insightful)

CastrTroy (595695) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412510)

This school must have a pretty bad webserver if simply clicking on refresh brings the server to its knees. I mean, it's not like they were generating millions of hits.

Article slashdoted... (5, Funny)

Eyah....TIMMY (642050) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412511)

... after all the /. readers held down F5 to see if it really worked

Low-tech DDoS? (5, Insightful)

Kelson (129150) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412512)

Sounds like a distributed denial of service attack. He just left out the automation.

Logically, the only thing that distinguishes a DoS from the Slashdot Effect is intent. If your intent is to spread awareness of the material that appears on a server, and the server can't handle it, well, that's tough for the server, but that's how the Internet works. If your intent is to take the server down, that's illegal.

Up until now, most deliberate attacks were automated, making it easy to separate overwhelming legit traffic from attacks -- but that's only really as accurate as trying to separate legitimate city traffic from criminals by assuming that anyone on foot is a burglar.

Of course, when you get down to the level of intent, you get to his contention that "Help me crash my school's server" was a joke, and that he wasn't actually trying to get people to follow through. And things get murky.

Re:Low-tech DDoS? (2, Interesting)

cyberbob2010 (312049) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412645)

The fact that they all were doing it doesn't land the blame soley on his shoulders either.

If it is bad enough to be considered a felony then why aren't the rest of them being charged with at least something?
If I get a group of people together and tell them to all drive out there and pass stopped school busses then do I go to jail for commiting a felony?? Yes, I do. The people who passed the bus? Its not like they are getting out of it for pointing and saying well he told me so!!! May sound kind of stupid but I am a product of the Ohio schools and I know the kind of BS administrators there will try and pull...

Re:Low-tech DDoS? (4, Funny)

Skye16 (685048) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412704)

Since his intent was to crash the school server, even as a joke, then his intent was to crash the school server. It doesn't look very good for him.

Of course, they would have been better off letting him slide than making a few hundred thousand / million geeks curious all at once. That server probably unhooked its own ethernet cable, packed up its keyboard and mouse, and walked out the front door by now. Or it melted and dripped all over the carpet.

me first me first (1)

flydeep (923300) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412513)

me was first here .. finally !! :D

Seems like a waste of time and money (5, Interesting)

dada21 (163177) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412514)

This problem can be solved through software already -- the school didn't take necessary means to avoid such a simple "DoS" style attack.

Even so, it seems crazy to me to waste taxpayer dollars chasing down this citizen and even more dollars prosecuting him. While the law is supposed to be around to protect property, I don't see how this is a felony. He didn't do the refreshing, did he? He used his right to speak freely.

I'm sure I'll hear the standard arguments about how speech can be regulated and I repudiate all of them. Crying fire in a theatre is private property -- the Constitution protects nothing on private property and the theatre owner is responsible for setting the standards of speech. Telling someone how to make a bomb is also free expression/speech -- you're not making the bomb. In this case, if clicking excessively is a crime (I can't believe it would be), the people who did the act should be indicted.

I'd love to see what real crimes are happening right now in Canton City -- murders, rapes, thefts. Speeding tickets and telling people to refresh a website repeatedly are nothing compared to real property crime. The last quote about trying to solve them reads more to me like they're "trying to find ways to exploit them."

For the school -- they can now expect this to happen more often. The publicity in charging this guy is going to be mostly negative in the minds of the students. All we need now is to get the link visible on slashdot, right?

Re:Seems like a waste of time and money (1)

m3j00 (606453) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412574)

So if I tell someone to shoot the principal that would be exercising my free speech?

Re:Seems like a waste of time and money (1, Funny)

User 956 (568564) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412605)

So if I tell someone to shoot the principal that would be exercising my free speech?

Straw man? Is that you?

Re:Seems like a waste of time and money (5, Insightful)

User 956 (568564) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412580)

This problem can be solved through software already -- the school didn't take necessary means to avoid such a simple "DoS" style attack.

Judging by this quote, it sounds like they don't even really have a grasp on what kind of "attack" it was.

"It's a crime and it is important we take this seriously ... especially for school officials ... it could have done a tremendous amount of damage," said Canton City Prosecutor Frank Fronchione.

Causing a tremendous amount of damage? WTF? He's not DDoSing Air Traffic Control. What a total load. This kid should sue these jackasses for libel, false arrest, and harassment.

Re:Seems like a waste of time and money (1)

m3j00 (606453) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412610)

libel, false arrest, and harassment all for a little hyperbole by an obviously not-so-computer-savvy prosecutor? the kid committed a crime, albeit fairly benign, it's a crime nonetheless

Re:Seems like a waste of time and money (1, Troll)

User 956 (568564) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412634)

the kid committed a crime, albeit fairly benign, it's a crime nonetheless

Ok, Matlock, what's his "crime"? Show me the law. Seriously.

Re:Seems like a waste of time and money (4, Funny)

JWW (79176) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412628)

Causing a tremendous amount of damage?

I'm sure the kid didn't cause a tremendous amount of damage. Not so sure about what the slashdotting will do....

Re:Seems like a waste of time and money (4, Insightful)

cavemanf16 (303184) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412613)

It's not "Canton City", it's just Canton. And, after having visited there recently, I can tell you it's a midwest town - NOT a city - where life moves just a bit slower than the rest of the country. You can tell by Mr. Fanchione's comments on the article that the police are "trying to teach this youngin' a lesson!" and think they're just so smart for arresting this kid. I agree with your sentiments about how important this really is in the face of actually dangerous stuff. There were all kinds of buildings in that town that probably need to be condemned because they're a fire and health hazard, but no, the 'authorities' are busy arresting kids smarter than they are.

Re:Seems like a waste of time and money (2, Insightful)

undeadly (941339) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412621)

Even so, it seems crazy to me to waste taxpayer dollars chasing down this citizen and even more dollars prosecuting him. While the law is supposed to be around to protect property, I don't see how this is a felony. He didn't do the refreshing, did he? He used his right to speak freely.

What's crazy is the legal system allowing this. It favors those with deep pockets to bully and force their will upon others since just the hint of legal action is enough to deter most in USA. RIAA actions are public examples of this type of behavior, along with US style patent practices/laws.

Re:Seems like a waste of time and money (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14412680)

Even though I live about 10 miles from that school, it's across county lines, so I can't vote that idiot prosecutor out of office

Re:Seems like a waste of time and money (3, Informative)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412681)

He didn't do the refreshing, did he? He used his right to speak freely.

It is specifically illegal to incite others to commit a crime.

Re:Seems like a waste of time and money (1)

Kelson (129150) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412711)

I'm sure I'll hear the standard arguments about how speech can be regulated and I repudiate all of them. Crying fire in a theatre is private property -- the Constitution protects nothing on private property and the theatre owner is responsible for setting the standards of speech. Telling someone how to make a bomb is also free expression/speech -- you're not making the bomb.

Just curious: how do you take "Inciting to riot?" Assuming it's applied properly (i.e. to someone who really is whipping a crowd into a frenzy with the intent of starting a riot, not just as an excuse to punish the protesters), is this justifiable as a criminal charge, or is the guy just exercising his right to free speech?

Apply this to eBay... (2, Funny)

NaruVonWilkins (844204) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412517)

and you've got a new way to fill the jails!

Let the slashdotting begin (3, Informative)

jkauzlar (596349) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412520)

Lake High School [k12.oh.us]

Re:Let the slashdotting begin (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14412564)

Yeah. If it doesn't work at first, just hit F5 to try again. It'll work eventually...

Re:Let the slashdotting begin (1)

enjo13 (444114) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412670)

Since its down.. does that mean we win?

Re:Let the slashdotting begin (2, Funny)

John3 (85454) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412606)

Uh oh...did you just commit a felony?

Re:Let the slashdotting begin (1)

rodgster (671476) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412623)

A quote from TFA fits quite well here:

"School officials and Canton City Prosecutor Frank Forchione didn't think it was funny."

Re:Let the slashdotting begin (1)

Anm (18575) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412717)

A quote from TFA fits quite well here:

"School officials and Canton City Prosecutor Frank Forchione didn't think it was funny."


Well obviously there need to earn more moderator points. Sheesh.

Re:Let the slashdotting begin (2, Funny)

CountZero117 (921222) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412687)

you have some major cahones man, posting it on your account and not AC ;)

Re:Let the slashdotting begin (1)

Kpt Kill (649374) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412690)

Check out the video on WKYC news channel 3
The website wont load the video in the browser for me, so heres a direct link.

WEBSITE:
http://www.wkyc.com/video/player.aspx?aid=18650&si d=45721&bw= [wkyc.com]
VIDEO:
http://wm.gannett.speedera.net/wm.gannett/wkyc/200 60105_lake_wkyc.wmv [speedera.net]

That was a fast /.ing (2, Informative)

dtfinch (661405) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412521)

http://lake.stark.k12.oh.us/ [k12.oh.us] was offline before I could even find its url in Google.

Re:That was a fast /.ing (1)

John3 (85454) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412631)

Yeah, but their home page [schoolwebpages.com] is still up.

Denial of Service attack (1)

Marxist Hacker 42 (638312) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412522)

But one that's rather easy to defend against with server side scripting- just deny the "from" source....

the media (5, Funny)

User 956 (568564) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412526)

I love the complete bullshit way this article [wkyc.com] frames the situation. He didn't put a link, he "created a website, which connected to the school's system." ooo.. sinister.. yeah...

Word of advice... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14412527)

Stick to F5ing /. only.

But wait, don't order yet!! (3, Funny)

shystershep (643874) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412529)

New, only on Slashdot, the Outrage-O-Matic!!

Simply take the bare facts of a story, throw in some out-of-context quotes and counter-factual insinuations, and that boring story about some punk's criminal mischief is suddenly about the Man's insane overreaction to a harmless prank!

It's fun for the whole family! Get yours today!

Re:But wait, don't order yet!! (1)

Radres (776901) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412557)

That's considered new on Slashdot? You must be new here.

18 year old "Boy" (1)

neoform (551705) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412675)

Don't forget to call an 18 year old a child "18 year-old boy".. cause we all know that 18 year olds are children.

Felony? (1)

evil agent (918566) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412530)

I don't know about a felony, but it's definitely a crime. I't a DDoS attack. A little crude, but it does the job.

Holy Crap (5, Funny)

jandrese (485) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412531)

Slashdot is in a heap of trouble.

In other news... (1)

Davak (526912) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412533)

In other news...

The use of the F5 key has been banned.

Re:In other news... (1)

ehlertjd (694587) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412565)

Shft AND F5!? 'm runnng ot of keys.

What joke? (1, Offtopic)

va3atc (715659) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412544)

The dude clearly was wanting to disrupt the schools website
Asking folks in an Internet chat room to help crash his high school's computer

My personal website gets charged strictly for bandwidth and storage. If someone had a grudge against me and did this it would COST rather then just slow it down.

Re:What joke? (1)

JamesTRexx (675890) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412644)

If it's the site you posted the link to you're talking about, wouldn't you be better off with a free hosting provider or running your own webserver at home? (provided you can run your connection 24/7 of course)
I've got broadband at home and use my webserver for pretty much the same reason you do, keep notes on using FreeBSD and Windows, but it doesn't cost me anything specifically for storage and bandwidth.

Re:What joke? (1)

m0rph3us0 (549631) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412660)

BFD. Not everything that costs you money is a crime. I can legally do lots of things that cost people around me money. It's a joke. It's akin to asking all the students to the principal's office. It makes the office unusable, but I doubt anyone would be charged with a felony for doing it. Laws like disruption of public services were created to address serious problems of mischief. If you did something like this to a 911 service it would be an issue.

Yes, it has (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14412545)

'This new technology has created a whole wave of crimes, and we're just trying to find ways to solve them.'

Yes, Canton City Prosecutor Frank Forchione,it has. The crime you are thinking of is prosecutorial misconduct.

If they would have just let this sleeping dog (1)

Cutting_Crew (708624) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412552)

sleep, then they wouldnt have caused such an uproar. i forsee now thousands upon hundreds of thousands of new blogs about to be created so the webmaster can take down their favorite(or not so favorite) web site by having everyone hit F5.

In other news ... (2, Funny)

bushboy (112290) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412555)

.. Canton City just got their first set of traffic lights installed.

Frank Forchione was quoted as saying :-

"Hot Diggidy, this new fangled technology sure is mighty fine !, but it's created a whole wave of crimes, and we'll just have to find ways to solve them."

Does this mean that it's also a felony (4, Funny)

multiplexo (27356) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412558)

to press all of the buttons on an elevator at once?

Re:Does this mean that it's also a felony (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14412688)

Just tried it.... you piece of crap, I was stuck in the elevetor for 30 mins.

Good for them. (1)

TheSpoom (715771) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412560)

At 18, he should have known better. C'mon, he was actively telling others to actively disrupt his school's server. It might seem small, but in effect, he was asking people to participate in a distributed denial of service attack.

If someone DDoS'd your site, wouldn't you get the police involved if you couldn't stop it?

Not to mention that he was dumb enough to actually put it in writing on his own website. Why wouldn't he just tell people in person to do that?

Video of Story (5, Informative)

wike (742888) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412561)

Here's a link to a video newstory that provides some more details: http://www.wkyc.com/video/player.aspx?aid=18650&si d=45721&bw= [wkyc.com] This story has been up on Digg.com for a few hours, the school's website has been down most of the day

Re:Video of Story (1)

JWW (79176) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412677)

the school's website has been down most of the day

Somehow I doubt the actions that got this kid charged even came anywhere close to the amount of disruption unleashed on them today.

Ooops, their mistake.

I can't wait until I graduate law school (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14412563)

These are the types of cases I'd be all over. Disrupting a public service? Come on...that's for interfering with things like Police and Fire services. It'd be one thing if they charged him for what it is a DOS somehow...even then...it wasn't just him. If I get a thousand people to call the city hall all at once...is that a felony?

everybody hold down F5 to help crash slashdot. (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14412567)

it's not a "public service" so it's legal!

18 year old boy? (1)

Wisgary (799898) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412568)

Huh.

Ignorance is not a crime, but it should be (1)

cybermint (255744) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412569)

And Frank Forchione should be prosecuted for his crimes against intelligence.

A 'whole wave of crimes'? (1)

eyrieowl (881195) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412576)

Maybe, but this sounds like the prosecutors are manufacturing a whole wave of criminals and trying to find crimes for them to be guilty of.

"clearly, we must protect the children" (2, Funny)

Triumph The Insult C (586706) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412579)

i think we should bring a class action lawsuit against all companies that make keyboards, they are manufacturing unsafe products that encourage criminal behavior in america's youth by their continued inclusion of the button 'F5'

I hope the prosecutor is kidding... (1)

phiber9 (943697) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412584)

If he's not, he should end up on everyone's shitlist. Punishing the kid for telling everybody to press F5, come on... Does the defence have anyone who knows what Internet is?

Take gun, aim at feet. (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14412586)

This is their webpage [k12.oh.us] .

It's dead, predictably. Once again some morons in authority have demonstrated their complete lack of understanding of internet culture. Anyone with an ounce of knowledge of the way people like us think would have dealt with this as quietly as possible so as not to incur the wrath of the entire world. Instead, they thought they'd be smart and "show what they do about this kind of joke", or whatever it was they said.

They shall pay the price for their lack of vision...

Possible Precident (1, Insightful)

QuantumFTL (197300) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412594)

Many human actions are only damaging if done en mass. It is a crime to incite individuals to violence, or to disrupt the peace. While this is surely not a violent crime, instructing individuals to perform a DDoS is an attack, whether performed in cyberspace (via browser refresh or other methods) or in real life (say, inciting a flash mob to take all the paper numbers in a waiting line, and leave).

While I'm not certain felony charges are warranted in this instance, inciting detrimental group behavior is far from a new thing, and should be punished.

Re:Possible Precident (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14412679)

what are these "other methods" you speak of? just curious i swear.

Re:Possible Precident (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14412692)

inciting detrimental group behavior is far from a new thing, and should be punished.

So what you're saying is that politicians should be punished.

You got my vote.

Re:Possible Precident (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14412707)

Is it a crime to march lockstep across a bridge? Once they fish your mangled body from the water, I mean.

If killing someone's web bandwidth is a crime (2, Insightful)

jaygatsby27 (894445) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412597)

Than Slashdot should have been in jail long ago. Isn't that exactly what this website is good for?

In other news... (1)

dapho (939695) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412601)

A local man was recently reported as attempting suicide when he was found gagging on the floor of a Burger King because he had drank his soda too fast...

The cops always get their man (1)

nih (411096) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412602)

This perpetrator thought he could evade the Canton City police department, but no one gets away from the law, not this time, not ever.

but what is the prosecuters site or email address? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14412608)

Maybe we could slashdot him just to let him experience some grief over this. I love our legal system.

Canton City website (1)

gorbachev (512743) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412612)

http://www.cityofcanton.com/ [cityofcanton.com]

This is the Canton City prosecutor Frank Forchione cyber digs. Nothing on the website about sending the stormtroopers after the kid yet.

Number of hits (5, Informative)

Silverlancer (786390) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412618)

According to the folks at Fark, who got to it before the slashdotting, it only had about 900 hits total. Come on, they crashed the server in NINE HUNDRED HITS?!

Re:Number of hits (2, Insightful)

pdbogen (596723) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412702)

According to TFA (I forgive you for not reading it.. this is slashdot, after all), they server admins noticed a slowdown and caught on.

FWIW, for everyone lambasting assuming that "connected to" means "linked to," it's possible that the kid's web page loaded the school's in fifteen hundred IFRAMES (and if the school's website is set to no-cache, which is probably likely, this could be trouble), and also that their hit counter only registers unique IP addresses.

/Devil's Advocate
//Are these allowed on slashdot?

so when is (0, Offtopic)

1336.5 (901985) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412636)

so when is stupidity going to be a crime...as in the stupidity of that web page design.

School (4, Funny)

taskforce (866056) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412640)

The school in question is Lake High School in Uniontown Ohio.

http://lake.stark.k12.oh.us/ [k12.oh.us]

The site is actually down, which is a shame; it would have been a nice oppurtunity to see if we could get Zonk thrown in jail for posting it on the Slashdot front page.

I dare them to charge me! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14412643)

Hey kids, if you walk slowly in the halls, it will slow down traffic. If enough students stop and just stand in the hall, nobody will be able to move.

Wow (2, Funny)

g0bshiTe (596213) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412650)

"18 year old man arrested for DDoSing his schools website by encouraging other students to quickly click refresh. In retaliation for his incarciration, he used his telephone call to call his freind Stevie, whom he told to post to /. and all the schools servers were /.ed."

This doesn't make any sense (5, Insightful)

Psionicist (561330) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412659)

This doesn't make any sense, at all.

- If a boy tells his friend to reload a webpage, he gets thrown into jail and gets felony charges.
- A lone spammer gets $11 billion in fines.
- If joe sixpack downloads a movie he gets huge fines.

Yet, if a medium to large corporation sell/delete customer records, infect consumers computers with spyware or the like, they only get a slap on the wrist?

When did corporations get more freedoms than individuals?

Re:This doesn't make any sense (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14412706)

When did corporations get more freedoms than individuals?

Long time ago ?

DoS not Refresh (2, Insightful)

garver (30881) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412662)

He arranged a Denial of Service attack. Think of his "fellow students" as zombies and him as a script kiddie, then pretend you're the admin or legit user of this site. Now tell me you wouldn't be a wee bit perturbed. This is akin to willfull destruction of property and saying he's only guilt of refreshing a browser is like saying a car thief is only guilt of moving your car.

A felony is a bit harsh though. Perhaps there were significant damages involved. Or the cops are out of control.

Too much information given about the kid? (3, Insightful)

GhaleonStrife (916215) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412663)

Wow. They even give you his street address, in case you wanna walk up and punch him in the face. He's no longer safe from the school bullies! ...Provided he ever gets out of jail.

Sounds like the modern version of (1)

ElementCDN (539925) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412666)

OK everyone pass it along at exacty 2:30 everyone start clapping!

Thank the Lord that I hit Reload instead... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14412668)

... because my Netscape Navigator Gold browser does not have a "Refresh" button, you insensitive clod!*

* (Actually it is in the View menu since version 1, but it only refreshes the display.)

Canton, OH is not known for common sense (4, Funny)

ChipMonk (711367) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412683)

Last year, an article on the WEWS Channel 5 website had this gem of a quote:

"School officials are not sure they [know] what has caused so many pregnancies..."

Someone needs to get these people a clue-bat.

Wow.. (1)

Jrabbit05 (943335) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412693)

Well that server is down now. Its fallen prey to Slashdotters around the world I guess. Or are just trying to not repair it to say; "It took us N hours to fix it" But who knows...

intent matters (4, Insightful)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412694)

if i break your arm because i didn't see you standing behind me while i was moving a heavy piece of furniture, then there should be mild repercussions

if i break your arm by taking it, looking dead in your eye, and twisting it as hard as i can, then there should be severe repercussions

the whole issue is one of intent

intent matters in this world, and any opinion that ignores intent, about this kid, or a whole range of modern problems in this world, is not a useful or valid opinion

Vulnerability exists on Linux as well (5, Funny)

Pakaran2 (138209) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412705)

As a concerned user of fully patched Gentoo, I have tested the "F5 causes excessive reloading" vulnerability. It works on Konqueror, Mozilla and Firefox, with all patches installed, including hardened kernel. Local access to the machine is NOT required; the F5 vulnerability can be triggered when opening a web browser through, e.g., SSH forwarded X connections.

I hope there will be a patch soon!

New technology (5, Funny)

Jotii (932365) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412715)

This new technology has created a whole wave of crimes

Behold the refresh button, the wonder of modern technology.

Whew! (1)

anonymous_wombat (532191) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412716)

Good thing he didn't tell them to hit the back button.
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