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Google Wants You to Use Your Real Name on YouTube

samzenpus posted about 2 years ago | from the what's-your-handle dept.

Privacy 602

Google has launched a pop-up dialogue box on YouTube that urges you to use your real name when trying to make a comment. From the article: "When you try to comment on a YouTube video, a box will pop up that displays your username as it’s currently seen, along with a side-by-side comparison to what it will look like if you let YouTube pull your name from Google+. You can choose 'I don’t want to use my real name,' but that will lead to another dialogue box that basically guilts you into agreeing. If you still insist on remaining anonymous, you have to tell Google why: 'My channel is for a show or character' or 'My channel name is well-known for other reasons' are two options. 'I want to remain anonymous, is–unsurprisingly–not one."

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602 comments

Just like a slashdot poll (5, Funny)

danbert8 (1024253) | about 2 years ago | (#40737711)

Somebody always bitches about the lack of options. Maybe Google should have included a "My name is Cowboy Neal" option?

It could be worse... (4, Funny)

AliasMarlowe (1042386) | about 2 years ago | (#40737891)

For instance, if redtube [redtube.com] required you to use your real name...

Re:It could be worse... (2)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40738075)

might want to include the NSFW tag there ... just to be safe

Re:It could be worse... (5, Insightful)

ichimunki (194887) | about 2 years ago | (#40738273)

You must be new here. Slashdot links should *all* be considered NSFW until proven otherwise.

Re:Just like a slashdot poll (4, Insightful)

fractoid (1076465) | about 2 years ago | (#40737911)

Trolololo- no. Lack of options in a multiple choice question is almost always a way to manufacture a false N-chotomy for the reader. Referendum-type votes do it all the time to manipulate the results. If the question is "Why would you not like to reveal personally identifiable data online" then one of the fields should be either free-form, or "because I'm not a complete muppet."

Re:Just like a slashdot poll (4, Insightful)

jeffmeden (135043) | about 2 years ago | (#40737951)

Trolololo- no.

Lack of options in a multiple choice question is almost always a way to manufacture a false N-chotomy for the reader. Referendum-type votes do it all the time to manipulate the results. If the question is "Why would you not like to reveal personally identifiable data online" then one of the fields should be either free-form, or "because I'm not a complete muppet."

If they did add that, they would need to also include (and make default) the option that is almost certainly the correct one: "I want to troll with no repercussion."

Re:Just like a slashdot poll (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40738069)

There would never be any repercussions to begin with.

But there are valid reasons to remain anonymous, including avoiding getting fired/not hired by insane employers or staying out of sight of insane people. No need to stifle people's speech, either. The Internet is great because there is so much anonymity. Otherwise, more people would be afraid to speak their mind. Much less interesting.

Re:Just like a slashdot poll (2)

fractoid (1076465) | about 2 years ago | (#40738251)

But there are valid reasons to remain anonymous, including avoiding getting fired/not hired by insane employers or staying out of sight of insane people.

Which of these reasons (or any other for that matter) for remaining anonymous are not fundamentally driven by concern regarding repercussions?

Re:Just like a slashdot poll (4, Insightful)

jedidiah (1196) | about 2 years ago | (#40738333)

Not all "repercussions" are the fault of the person who seeks to be careful and not expose himself.

Re:Just like a slashdot poll (3, Insightful)

fractoid (1076465) | about 2 years ago | (#40738115)

So between our two viewpoints, it comes down essentially to what your motivation is in posting. Any way you look at it, the only reason to wish to post anonymously is to avoid some form of repercussion (whether identity theft, stalking/harassment, or simply being outed as a douchetard.)

Re:Just like a slashdot poll (5, Insightful)

causality (777677) | about 2 years ago | (#40738181)

So between our two viewpoints, it comes down essentially to what your motivation is in posting. Any way you look at it, the only reason to wish to post anonymously is to avoid some form of repercussion (whether identity theft, stalking/harassment, or simply being outed as a douchetard.)

Whatever happened to the concept of "it's just not your business?" It's the idea of "if I wanted you to know or thought you were entitled to this information, I would provide it willingly without being prompted for it." Is that disappearing along with the idea of focusing on what is being said rather than making everything into a petty personal matter focused on who is saying it?

I mean sure, Google can do what they like with their properties. That doesn't make it a worthy or noble idea, though.

Re:Just like a slashdot poll (0)

repetty (260322) | about 2 years ago | (#40738255)

Whatever happened to the concept of "it's just not your business?" .....

I mean sure, Google can do what they like with their properties.

You answered your own question.

Re:Just like a slashdot poll (4, Insightful)

cheekyjohnson (1873388) | about 2 years ago | (#40738275)

That they can doesn't mean they should. It also doesn't mean they can't be criticized for it.

Re:Just like a slashdot poll (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40738199)

If they did add that, they would need to also include (and make default) the option that is almost certainly the correct one: "I want to troll with no repercussion."

I wouldn't classify the majority of comments on Youtube as "trolling" (though there are some of course) but I can imagine why most people wouldn't want to associate their real name with the sort of vapid (non-trolling) crap they post there. Have you ever tried reading it?

Re:Just like a slashdot poll (3, Funny)

rtfa-troll (1340807) | about 2 years ago | (#40737963)

There is a European Union decision that people have the right to use Pseudonyms. Google has said they accept this. The only reason that "Cowboy Neal" isn't accepted is that is that their policy demands that names be convincing as normal every day usage. So; for now two suggestions
  1. All slashdotters should agree that our future kids will be named "Cowboy Neal" (no requirement to rename existing kids - especially the ones old enough to resist).
  2. Everybody should, for now, sign up to Google+ and Facebook from a European union hosted system with a fake but real sounding name and fake data
  3. When the children get to an age to legally sign up, we can use their names as a precedent to get the "Cowboy Neal" option open for everybody
  4. If either Facebook or Google+ resist on either point 2 or point 3 then be ready to take them to the European Court of Human Rights;
  5. For great justice

Re:Just like a slashdot poll (3, Interesting)

cayenne8 (626475) | about 2 years ago | (#40738015)

Isn't it just simple to by pass this...by not having a Google or FB account...or at the very least, NOT telling Google about a G+ account when creating a new YouTube account?

Hell....my YT account is with a non-gmail, throw away account...set up with another throw away acct...etc.

Re:Just like a slashdot poll (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40738165)

In Germany you'd need a precedent to name the baby Cowboy Neal in the first place, although I think this website might actually be convincing enough.

Re:Just like a slashdot poll (1)

ZeroSumHappiness (1710320) | about 2 years ago | (#40738243)

Legally change your name to Cowboy Neal then emigrate to Germany to seed the name? I think it'd be hard to deny someone naming their child Cowboy Neal, Jr. no matter the legal name approval requirements.

Privacy Concerns Aside (3, Insightful)

conner_bw (120497) | about 2 years ago | (#40737729)

Obligatory:

http://xkcd.com/481/ [xkcd.com]

The comments on YouTube videos are a plague of idiocy, racism, hate-mongering, astro-turfing...

Something has to be done, no?

Re:Privacy Concerns Aside (4, Interesting)

Skarecrow77 (1714214) | about 2 years ago | (#40737821)

I know I should be annoyed at the elimination of anonymous options, and in most any other setting I would be, but youtube? yeah I think I'd like to see this play out. just don't make a universal case out of it google.

Re:Privacy Concerns Aside (1, Insightful)

Sancho (17056) | about 2 years ago | (#40738055)

Insert obligatory "First they came for..." post here.

Re:Privacy Concerns Aside (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40738149)

First they came for my LOLCats, but I did not LOL...

Re:Privacy Concerns Aside (2)

Skarecrow77 (1714214) | about 2 years ago | (#40738171)

right, thus the "don't make it a universal case".

The problem with the slippery slope arguement is that people think it applies to everything. there are outlieing cases.

it's entirely possible to say "hey, you know what, maybe we don't let members of the public own thermonuclear weapons" without that meaning that everything else in the catagory of "weapon" from fully automatic assault rifles and flamethrowers down to potato guns and super soakers needs to be banned too.

Re:Privacy Concerns Aside (2, Funny)

cellocgw (617879) | about 2 years ago | (#40737883)

Oh, I thought you were going to link to this http://xkcd.com/386/ [xkcd.com] .

But actually I was going to post: "What: real people actually post comments to YouTube?"

Re:Privacy Concerns Aside (4, Funny)

Bomazi (1875554) | about 2 years ago | (#40738249)

I I thought he was going to link to this one: http://xkcd.com/202/ [xkcd.com] . It is one of my favorites.

Re:Privacy Concerns Aside (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40737903)

Do what everyone else does. Take the IPs (or in the case of IPv6, /56s) that are causing you grief and ban them from commenting. Once the commenters get their school or workplace banned, society takes care of the fool. Or, if they don't, still, who cares? They can't comment unless they go to somewhere with free WiFi, which also gets banned.

Before you do that, you can take the easy approach of making it so their comments are only visible to their own account, since youtube requires a login to comment.

Re:Privacy Concerns Aside (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40737949)

Yes, because trolling is NEVER done via proxy...

Re:Privacy Concerns Aside (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40737931)

The comments on YouTube videos are a plague of idiocy, racism, hate-mongering, astro-turfing...

which is a sign of a healthy freedom of speech

Re:Privacy Concerns Aside (0)

Skarecrow77 (1714214) | about 2 years ago | (#40738119)

ahh yes AC, but one of the key tenants of our freedoms is personal responsibility. you are free to do what you like within the law, but you are also responsible for any repercussions from said actions.

you can call a bunch of hecklers at your stand-up comedy show filthy niggers, and you -do- have that right... but the repercussions are that your career goes into the shitter.

Re:Privacy Concerns Aside (2)

HarrySquatter (1698416) | about 2 years ago | (#40738205)

Spoken like a dictator. The benefits of anonymus speech far outweigh the fact that you might get inconveienced by some racist posts on Youtube. You have no freedom to not be offended.

Re:Privacy Concerns Aside (0)

19thNervousBreakdown (768619) | about 2 years ago | (#40738331)

What the fuck? I'm free to not be offended if I so choose! Fuck you!

Re:Privacy Concerns Aside (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40738253)

but one of the key tenants of our freedoms is personal responsibility

Obviously not; otherwise have the option to be anonymous. There are many valid reasons to remain anonymous; escaping from a judgmental, illogical populace; staying out of sight of criminals/stalkers; and preventing employers/potential employers from seeing your comments (which may seem entirely ordinary to a reasonable person) and firing/not hiring you based on them.

Anonymity is extremely important, and it's quite sad that some people can't see that (and instead choose to hide under a veil of "responsibility" instead of defending freedom).

Re:Privacy Concerns Aside (1)

gbjbaanb (229885) | about 2 years ago | (#40738325)

what could go wrong? I mean, you can stand up at a press conference and say "mr president, you told the guard to kill civilian woman and children and say they were terrorists", and watch as you are never heard from again.

Or, in a more civilised democracy, say "mr president, you had the CIA install listening devices in the Democratic National Committee offices" and see how far that gets you.

Sometimes anonymity is a good thing. I know the argument that says "if you have nothing to hide", but its usually those in a position of power who have something to hide that you need to be anonymous from.

Ok, so I don't have any inside information about our political overlords, but I do want to keep some aspects of my private life secret from my boss or colleagues, which are none of their business, but wouldn't stop them from being critical. (and no, its not nice comments about Justin Bieber on his new video, but you can imagine what would happen at work if I did, and they found out!)

Re:Privacy Concerns Aside (2)

ackthpt (218170) | about 2 years ago | (#40737947)

Obligatory:

http://xkcd.com/481/ [xkcd.com]

The comments on YouTube videos are a plague of idiocy, racism, hate-mongering, astro-turfing...

Something has to be done, no?

Yeah, link them to your Google+ which requires a "real name"*

* my real name is Bob 4. Apples.

Re:Privacy Concerns Aside (2)

HarrySquatter (1698416) | about 2 years ago | (#40738029)

Something has to be done, no?

Nothing has to be done. Just down vote the comments and you will no longer see them.

Re:Privacy Concerns Aside (3, Funny)

w_dragon (1802458) | about 2 years ago | (#40738081)

I'll see your xkcd and raise you a ctrl-alt-del [cad-comic.com]

Re:Privacy Concerns Aside (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40738287)

All signs point to yes.

Re:Privacy Concerns Aside (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40738113)

The comments on youtube occasionally contain comedy gold mined out of pure stupidity. Granted, most of them are shit, but I'd miss the zingers.

Anonymous Speech is Free Speech (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40738231)

No absolutely nothing has to be done.

You don't like the comments, don't let people comment.

Anonymous speech is the only genuine free speech out there. Just as an example:

Some poor bastard who is a liberal, and an atheist takes a job for Chick-A-Fillet because he has a family to feed and mortgage to pay. Then one day his previous pro-evolution and anti-fundamentalist-nutjob statements come out from behind their anonymous protections; one way or another he's gone. so now this poor fuck is out on the streets, still looking.

Re:Privacy Concerns Aside (5, Insightful)

causality (777677) | about 2 years ago | (#40738233)

Obligatory:

http://xkcd.com/481/ [xkcd.com]

The comments on YouTube videos are a plague of idiocy, racism, hate-mongering, astro-turfing...

Something has to be done, no?

What should be done is so easy, so simple, that its value is often overlooked.

What do do? Expect adult people to be able to handle speech they dislike. That means overlooking it, ignoring it, countering it with speech they consider better, or simply not viewing whatever it is they have a problem with.

I'm telling you, emphasizing that would make for a better world.

Re:Privacy Concerns Aside (0)

HarrySquatter (1698416) | about 2 years ago | (#40738265)

But his feelings might get hurt and he might have to grow thicker skin instead of bubble wrapping himself.

Re:Privacy Concerns Aside (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40738247)

... except for racism, so is /.

Nothing has to be done. If the idiots account for most of your user base, the last thing you want to do is alienate them.

Also, based on Facebook comments, requiring a real name will not get rid of any of those.

Re:Privacy Concerns Aside (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40738311)

No.

Youtube has turned to crap (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40737743)

Broken reply buttons, half-baked beta-test attempts, terrible commenting system, booting users because they might make youtube look bad with their content, and C&Ding sites that use youtube a little bit differently. All around, it's turned to crap. And with this, I'm just going to delete my account. There's other video services out there, and I can still access the content on youtube anonymously, so who cares.

The names Coward... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40737749)

Anonymous Coward

You HAVE to tell them why? Uh..... (2)

P-niiice (1703362) | about 2 years ago | (#40737751)

No, you don't have to tell them why. you can choose to choose later if you ....choose to, hehe.

Re:You HAVE to tell them why? Uh..... (1)

NJRoadfan (1254248) | about 2 years ago | (#40738299)

What happens if you choose one option over another? Is there a "wrong" or "right" option? Will the Google Overloads go after you if you choose the wrong answer?

Google - it's *good* for you (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40737773)

After all, they're not evil, now are they?

Good move on Google's part... (5, Insightful)

MitchDev (2526834) | about 2 years ago | (#40737775)

Take one of the biggest, most popular sites in the world and start driving people away from it.

Re:Good move on Google's part... (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40737941)

You mean drive away the people who spew inappropriate crap? I can't really see in the majority (wide majority at that) case where you would need anonymity. Who cares if you post some reply to some video anyways?

Re:Good move on Google's part... (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40738089)

An AC saying other people don't need anonymity when posting. Either excellent trolling or someone's irony meter exploded.

Re:Good move on Google's part... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40738169)

hey! some of us AC's just can't be bothered to register. Which in my case proves the point someone else was making, by doing this google will reduce the throw away, and often bad, comments - as I wouldn't bother making comments here if I had to register, and /. is still better than youtube.

Re:Good move on Google's part... (2)

hcs_$reboot (1536101) | about 2 years ago | (#40738133)

Take one of the biggest, most popular sites in the world and start driving people away from it

...and Google+ people along with them

Re:Good move on Google's part... (1)

slashmydots (2189826) | about 2 years ago | (#40738147)

It worked for Facebook (myspace) but then again it's about to not work for Facebook...(Facebook lol)

Screw YouTube (1)

fatbuckel (1714764) | about 2 years ago | (#40737781)

My name is Nunya Bidness.

Not quite accurate. (1)

O('_')O_Bush (1162487) | about 2 years ago | (#40737783)

I chose the option, paraphrased as, "This is a personal account and needs to remain anonymous".

I have a feeling this option will be removed once lawsuits over defamation start flying.

simple solution (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40737789)

no more comments.

Re:simple solution (1)

SilverJets (131916) | about 2 years ago | (#40738003)

Exactly this.

People can still post and share videos but turn off the comments. Most of the time the comments are just noise anyways.

Benefits to not having a Google+ account growing (5, Interesting)

SuperKendall (25149) | about 2 years ago | (#40737791)

So if you don't have a Google+ account, would it bring up any warning?

At first I didn't join Google+ because Google literally would not let me - I had a paid Google Apps account and giving them money meant you were dirt as far as they were concerned, they wouldn't let you join Google+ for months (I guess they figured they were already collecting the personal information they wanted from you through your account so strip mining your Google+ data was irrelevant).

After paid accounts could join, I thought - why should I if they didn't want me at the start?

Turns out to have been a great choice, getting better by the day.

Really makes you think twice about having a Google account for anything, although there's really no great replacement for some of the services they offer...

Re:Benefits to not having a Google+ account growin (4, Informative)

Eightbitgnosis (1571875) | about 2 years ago | (#40737889)

I don't have a Google+ account, and do not see any prompt when commenting on youtube

Re:Benefits to not having a Google+ account growin (1)

ashridah (72567) | about 2 years ago | (#40737899)

p>Really makes you think twice about having a Google account for anything, although there's really no great replacement for some of the services they offer...

If someone were to build a third party website or tool that let me keep track of subscriptions for youtube, in a manner that doesn't wind up changing every 3 weeks (unlike youtube's front page), without needing a youtube account, I'd delete my youtube account in about 1 minute flat.

A really interesting idea (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | about 2 years ago | (#40738135)

If someone were to build a third party website or tool that let me keep track of subscriptions for youtube, in a manner that doesn't wind up changing every 3 weeks (unlike youtube's front page), without needing a youtube account, I'd delete my youtube account in about 1 minute flat.

I really like that idea too - I gave up subscribing to YouTube videos as I found the changes too annoying to keep track of.

You'd think people could develop a lot of meta services around more popular sites, of course when you do you are always in peril of the site correcting whatever flaw it was that led to people using your meta site and then you are done for.

Re:Benefits to not having a Google+ account growin (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40737937)

if the hint of inability to anonymously comment on youtube videos is something which makes you consider your decision "better by the day"... you had a pretty good day today didn't you?

Re:Benefits to not having a Google+ account growin (-1, Offtopic)

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Re:Benefits to not having a Google+ account growin (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40738195)

I agree with the above. I used to have a Google account for Adsense, but they kept spamming me (with physical mail) and any time I visited a Google site, it would automatically log me into my Adsense account (and out of my separate YouTube account). Now I block all Google certificates and no longer use them for advertising or search, just so I don't have to deal with their nagging. It's made my web browsing a good deal easier not dealing with Google.

I used to praise Google for their clean design and smooth function, now they've thrown all that out and made their collection of services a mess.

Exactly what it says on the label. (1)

JustAnotherIdiot (1980292) | about 2 years ago | (#40737817)

I'm just another idiot, so fuck off google.
Stop making fun of me because I forgot my name again.

Time for a new king of the Hill. (1)

theNetImp (190602) | about 2 years ago | (#40737819)

Well, too bad google's turning to shit, who wants to start something new?

Oh no. Please. Not Google+. (3, Interesting)

ZackSchil (560462) | about 2 years ago | (#40737827)

Is Google seriously trying to use the power of Google+ to twist people's arms on a real name policy? Google, you can't do that until the service is actually popular! My Google+ profile is just some bullshit I made to check out the service. I can delete it or fill it with fake info any time I want. It means nothing to me. If you insist on linking it to services I don't want it linked to, I'll just stop using the service I like less. Which is gonna be Google+!

Re:Oh no. Please. Not Google+. (3, Insightful)

fractoid (1076465) | about 2 years ago | (#40737977)

My Google+ profile is just some bullshit I made to check out the service. I can delete it or fill it with fake info any time I want.

You sure? I think you mean you can ask them and hope they delete it, or you can fill it with fake info which is irrelevant because the contents of your gmail archive contains far more than enough to uniquely identify you. /tinfoil >.>

Re:Oh no. Please. Not Google+. (2)

gl4ss (559668) | about 2 years ago | (#40738267)

..but they have to or they'll miss their google+ usage targets and don't get so big bonuses..

on the other hand, there's a shitload of accounts like this: http://www.youtube.com/user/emi [youtube.com]
and shitloads of takedown notices generated that don't have a real responsible person named for them.

I'll teach them (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40737833)

I'm legally changing my name to "vidfan4life".

Why Google Why (5, Interesting)

magsk (1316183) | about 2 years ago | (#40737849)

I have historically been a believer in google, and thought they where one of the few companies who put principles like free information etc ahead of profit (my naivety). But moves like this are further cementing my belief that something is rotten at google, and it started to get real bad once Page became CEO. The one good thing about this is that it opens up the doors for competitors to take business from google imho, creating competition.

Re:Why Google Why (2, Insightful)

ShieldW0lf (601553) | about 2 years ago | (#40738175)

I have historically been a believer in google, and thought they where one of the few companies who put principles like free information etc ahead of profit (my naivety).

But moves like this are further cementing my belief that something is rotten at google, and it started to get real bad once Page became CEO. The one good thing about this is that it opens up the doors for competitors to take business from google imho, creating competition.

I want the freedom to have access to the information about who is saying what, and this is a step in the right direction. Eventually, my slashdot pseudonym will disappear into my one identity for all to see, and that's ok too. If we're all going to have control over our political voice, we have to behave like politicians and be public figures... they go hand in hand. Anonymity is the tool of the disenfranchised... it's better NOT to be disenfranchised, and that requires the end of privacy.

You don't make a lot of sense. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40738335)

Since anonymity is a tool of the disenfranchised and we don't want disenfranchisment, we must eliminate privacy?! Why do think anonymity a tool of disenfranchisement? Does eliminating privacy therefore eliminate disenfranchisment?

Oh, and anyone who claims we must give up our privacy in order to be more like politicians needs to have their head examined. But that's just my personal opinion.

I tried this this morning... (3, Informative)

xxxJonBoyxxx (565205) | about 2 years ago | (#40737879)

I tried this this morning...and still registered fine with a fake/temporary account to make comments on videos. I think all this means is that your posting aliases are more likely to be interrupted by a space than before.

On the other hand, when Google does mine, they'd probably wonder why I watch so much Dora the Explorer on my business account. (It's tied to my business cell phone, which I use most often to keep my daughter entertained.)

Re:I tried this this morning... (5, Funny)

c (8461) | about 2 years ago | (#40738001)

> On the other hand, when Google does mine, they'd probably wonder why I watch
> so much Dora the Explorer on my business account. (It's tied to my business cell
> phone, which I use most often to keep my daughter entertained.)

Yes, we were kind of wondering about it. Thanks for clearing that up. It's been added to your file.

The Google, Inc. Team

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Re:I tried this this morning... (1)

Inda (580031) | about 2 years ago | (#40738207)

hmmm. People commenting on YouTube.

Every video I've ever posted on YouTube has been met with abuse. I posted a radio interview once and I got abuse because the interviewee was a shithead. I knew he was a shithead, that's why I posted it!

Today, everyone embeds videos in forums and we comment there like all good adults should.

"My channel name is well-known for other reasons" (1)

Gordonjcp (186804) | about 2 years ago | (#40737905)

Most likely because I've been using this nick for about 15 years or more - certainly since before I was on the Internet, back in the dialup BBS days.

subtle... (1)

Niko. (89205) | about 2 years ago | (#40737919)

Google knows people dislike being nagged or guilt-tripped. this is an attempt simply to reduce the volume of comment idiocy by making it less convenient. my guess is, it'll not make the idiocy or hatefulness vanish entirely, but will reduce easy throwaway comments a fair bit.

Re:subtle... (1)

SilverJets (131916) | about 2 years ago | (#40738059)

All the comments are throwaway comments. They should just turn off commenting altogether. 100 posts of "I like this vid" or "This is cool" is nothing but noise.

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Hahahahahahaha! (0)

stevegee58 (1179505) | about 2 years ago | (#40737943)

No

You have got to be kidding (1)

the eric conspiracy (20178) | about 2 years ago | (#40737957)

I admire a lot of Google's technical innovations but man their business model and practices are something I could do without.

No thanks. I'd like to stay alive (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40737961)

I'd love to use my real name. In fact I do on some forums where the users are mostly known and/or tame. On something like utube, no thanks. I'd rather stay alive and not be hunted down just because I don't agree with the psychopaths. And we all know you don't have to say something bad for them to come after you... just something unpopular is more than enough.

Big Content Requirement? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40737975)

Is this a Big Content Requirement to prevent lawsuites?

Re:Big Content Requirement? (5, Insightful)

Tridus (79566) | about 2 years ago | (#40738291)

No, it's more likely a reaction to the pathetically low quality of Youtube comments.

Similar to how Rotten Tomatoes disabled commenting on Dark Knight Rises reviews entirely when the trolling shit to everything else ratio got so skewed that they couldn't ignore it anymore.

Too many people online think that "anonymous" = "license to be a complete fuckwad".

Re:Big Content Requirement? (1)

0123456 (636235) | about 2 years ago | (#40738329)

Is this a Big Content Requirement to prevent lawsuites?

Or so they can sue you when you post unauthorised content.

Internet, free marketplace of ideas anymore? (2)

acidradio (659704) | about 2 years ago | (#40738045)

So much for the Internet staying this amazing free marketplace of discourse. Since we all have jobs and need to make a living we need the anonymity afforded by these sites to say what we truly want to say. I used to get into great discussions and debates with people on various news websites, until they all started requiring you to post under your Facebook account. Conveniently my full name, photo, job title and employer get tagged in with those posts. So basically now all of my posts have to be something my employer would approve of; they are a conservative Midwestern insurance company and probably wouldn't approve of many of my ideas. You will all tell me to remove my employment information from my Facebook page but why should I have to?

I'm pretty sure I'm sure (1)

Jarmihi (2589777) | about 2 years ago | (#40738093)

One of the options on the "Why aren't you giving your personal data away to the world dialogue box" is: I'm not sure, I'll decide later. I don't want to believe that the people in charge of YouTube completely forgot the concept of anonymity, but I never had faith in humanity, and I probably never will.

Tor discussion forums! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40738145)

We need an official Tor discussion forum.

I didn't see this issue mentioned in Roger's *latest* notes post, so for now, mature adults should visit and post at one or both of these unofficial tor discussion forums, these tinyurl's will take you to:

** HackBB:
http://www.tinyurl.com/hackbbonion [tinyurl.com] [tinyurl.com]

** Onion Forum 2.0
http://www.tinyurl.com/onionforum2 [tinyurl.com] [tinyurl.com]

Each tinyurl link will take you to a hidden service discussion forum. Tor is required to visit these links, even though they appear to be on the open web, they will lead you to .onion sites.

I know the Tor developers can do better, but how many years are we to wait?

Caution: some topics may be disturbing. You should be eighteen years or older. I recommend you disable images in your browser when viewing these two forums[1] and only enabling them if you are posting a message, but still be careful! Disable javascript and cookies, too.

If you prefer to visit the hidden services directly, bypassing the tinyurl service:

HackBB: (directly)
http://clsvtzwzdgzkjda7.onion/ [clsvtzwzdgzkjda7.onion] [clsvtzwzdgzkjda7.onion]

Onion Forum 2.0: (directly)
http://65bgvta7yos3sce5.onion/ [65bgvta7yos3sce5.onion] [65bgvta7yos3sce5.onion]

The tinyurl links are provided as a simple means of memorizing the hidden services via a link shortening service (tinyurl.com).

[1]: Because any content can be posted! Think 4chan, for example. onionforum2 doesn't appear to be heavily moderated so be aware and take precautions.

YouTube comments are like sugar (3, Insightful)

Andrio (2580551) | about 2 years ago | (#40738157)

I love YouTube comments. They are * hilarious*. No matter what the video is of, you find that the comments always degenerate to the most bizarre, hate-filled arguments imaginable. It makes for some hilarious reading.

But, like sugar, you can't have too much of it. It quickly becomes nauseating. Best is to get a small taste and then take no more. Just like too much sugar will eventually destroy your pancreas, too many YouTube comments will eventually destroy your faith in humanity.

Stupid move (1)

trptrp (2041816) | about 2 years ago | (#40738183)

Regarding the current situation this seems like a dumb move. A good deal of the fun part of youtube comes from the comments and a lot of people don't want to engange in some minor trolling or posting funny comments with their real name. Of course there are a lot of really offensive comments and stupid discussions also, but what I see as a result of anonymous names are especially the top rated funny comments you often come across.

Fake Name Generator! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40738187)

http://www.fakenamegenerator.com/ [fakenamegenerator.com]

I knew this would come in handy!

Google is on the dark side (1)

allo (1728082) | about 2 years ago | (#40738201)

Google had its chance to be better than facebook by not mirroring these realname bullshit. But they decided against it.

This was planned at the last Bilderberg meeting (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40738215)

Internet Anonymity has to go away.

Seriously, no tinfoil hats, this was one planned agenda at the last Bilderberg that Facebook's Sukkerberg was at along with his Google counterparts.

Go read the leaks on the meetings, along with the other leaks about the EU power grab, that is happening in reality too.

A conspiracy theory is no longer a conspiracy theory when it is backed up by 1) fact and 2) actions along the line of the leaked agenda.

We all knew this was happening and coming, at least those that have been following the meetings have been. it was spelled out clear as day to everybody.

If you don't like Google's policies... (0)

repetty (260322) | about 2 years ago | (#40738277)

If you don't like Google's policies then don't use their service.

Your whining is annoying to others.

Re:If you don't like Google's policies... (2)

0123456 (636235) | about 2 years ago | (#40738315)

Your whining is annoying to others.

I note you don't use your (full) real name to comment here.

Security reasons (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#40738317)

There are a lot of psycho people out there, what say you make a comment on someones video and it inadvertently offends them? Oops now they have your real name and your doomed.....worse case scenario I realize but you just never know and if something drastic does happen like that is Google gonna remain accountable because they are trying to force you to comply?

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