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Ubuntu Will Now Have Amazon Ads Pre-Installed

timothy posted about 2 years ago | from the not-what-I-want-by-default dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "Scheduled to be released next month, Ubuntu 12.10 now includes both Amazon ads in the user's dash and by default an Amazon store in the user's launcher. The reason for these 'features'? Affiliate revenue. Despite previous controversies with Banshee and Yahoo, Canonical is 'confident it will be an interesting and useful feature for our 12.10 users.' But are the 'users' becoming products?" Update: 09/22 19:35 GMT by T : Reader bkerensa scoffs, calling the Amazon integration unobtrusive, and says objections to its inclusion in the OS should be ignored, "because in reality ads will not be found in 12.10 unless you are seeing them on a third party website you go to in a web browser." He's got screenshots.

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I see (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41420299)

Mass migration in 3...2...1...

Re:I see (5, Insightful)

rubycodez (864176) | about 2 years ago | (#41420433)

you mean the second one, of those people remaining after the Unity / GNOME3 rendered any concept of multi-task workflow useless

stick a fork in Canonical, they are done

Re:I see (1)

slashdyke (873156) | about 2 years ago | (#41420533)

Unity - I hate it. Pulled it off my system. Ubuntu with Gnome 2 is ok.

Re:I see (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41420495)

I don't, unfortunately.

The spirit of the Linux community sure has changed since 20 or even 10 years ago, where this sort of thing would have been shouted out as an example of the worst excesses of proprietary software. Although I'd say this reflects a change in the motivators of geeks in general - there has been such a massive political shift to the right that I'm sure we'll hear people claim that adverts are "for your benefit".

Re:I see (2)

udachny (2454394) | about 2 years ago | (#41420627)

WTF does "right" have to do with claiming that adverts are "for your benefit"?

Do you consider FB, Zynga works of the "left" or the "right"? How about Google? How about Microsoft? How about Red Hat?

You are pushing political agenda into the world of software, so you have to define then what it means for software to be 'right' or 'left', these monikers don't have much meaning outside of software, but in software they are completely nonsensical.

Or is the meaning of "left leaning software" to be software designed and developed by the hungry?

---

I am not for or against ads by Canonical, it's their business, you can still download the source if you want to disable the ads I am sure, otherwise it's GPL violation.

Re:I see (1)

slashdyke (873156) | about 2 years ago | (#41420515)

That was my initial thought. So, since I am using 12.04 LTS, I am hoping that I can avoid the Amazon ads for a while. It will give me a chance to see (hopefully) Canonical remove the Ads in favour of the way it has been, or a chance to find a new distro to switch to. I suppose if there was an easy off switch, that might work, but I do so hate the concept in general.

Uninstall? (1)

Stonent1 (594886) | about 2 years ago | (#41420301)

I'm sure they'll be uninstalled shortly.

Re:Uninstall? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41420313)

I wouldn't. They could be extremely useful; I buy a lot of shit from big-A. I have a Prime membership and use and abuse it.

Disgusting (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41420303)

and shameful.

Honestly not that bad (4, Insightful)

TechieRefugee (2105386) | about 2 years ago | (#41420305)

It really isn't. I mean come on, a distro as large as Ubuntu is gonna need revenue from places other than donations. And, as long as it isn't too obtrusive in the UI, I won't really complain about it. Besides, there's always other flavors of Ubuntu which may have the ad feature removed.

Re:Honestly not that bad (1, Flamebait)

eugene ts wong (231154) | about 2 years ago | (#41420429)

That sounds great, but I wonder if they got PulseAudio working. I couldn't imagine finding an ad on a desktop, and then struggling with the sound system. If they could get a system that just worked, or worked better than the competition, then the ad would be fine for me. Ignoring bug reports, and then focusing on this is like a backhand to the face.

Upgrade me once, shame on you. Upgrade me twice, shame on me.

Re:Honestly not that bad (1)

zippthorne (748122) | about 2 years ago | (#41420595)

What's wrong with PulseAudio? Hasn't it just kinda worked (from a user perspective) for quite some time now?

I haven't used ubuntu in a while, but the last time I used it, in a virtual machine, no less, I didn't have any issues with the sound.

Re:Honestly not that bad (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41420435)

as long as it isn't too obtrusive in the UI

Any ads in the UI of the OS are too obtrusive.

Re:Honestly not that bad (2)

betterunixthanunix (980855) | about 2 years ago | (#41420459)

I mean come on, a distro as large as Ubuntu is gonna need revenue from places other than donations

Then they should do the one thing that actually turns a profit for free software vendors: subscriptions (for e.g. support, updates, etc.), targeting business users. If Ubuntu is now turning to ad revenue as a way to make money, they must really be in trouble (or they just do not get "it").

Re:Honestly not that bad (2)

jedidiah (1196) | about 2 years ago | (#41420525)

I dunno. Perhaps they should try what every other serious consumer oriented distribution has done: actually sell the product.

Re:Honestly not that bad (1)

foniksonik (573572) | about 2 years ago | (#41420571)

That's up next. First it's Free but ad-supported, next it's "pay to remove ads".

Re:Honestly not that bad (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41420605)

Pure nonsense. If that were true, we wouldn't have free and superior distros like Mint, Arch, Zenwalk, and I'm sure a pile of others.

Re:Honestly not that bad (1)

Lefty2446 (232351) | about 2 years ago | (#41420611)

Seriously? Ubuntu is not a top tier distro. They get the bulk of their work done for free via Debian. Putting the firmwares back in and skinning the product isnt going to take that much that Debian hasn't already done.

Debian is my favorite distro but they are a bit millitantly free on occasion making the product harder to use than it sometimes needs to be to fall in line with the DFSG.

This is why it pains me to use Ubuntu but crap like this makes Debian worth it.

Probaby came out like a troll or flame. Such is life.

Re:Honestly not that bad (1)

adosch (1397357) | about 2 years ago | (#41420615)

It really isn't. I mean come on, a distro as large as Ubuntu is gonna need revenue from places other than donations. And, as long as it isn't too obtrusive in the UI, I won't really complain about it. Besides, there's always other flavors of Ubuntu which may have the ad feature removed.

Bah, don't try to console the masses with the it-won't-be-so-bad speech.

If there's a need for revenue then start doing subscriptions and tier off your desktop builds then with "innovative" feature sets that are specific and elegant to a UI experience.

Ad's piss people off and IMHO they will just drive people to build package sets an cust repos that rid the ads or just find Ubuntu alternatives. Shame on you, Ubuntu.

Well, then (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41420307)

Fuck you, Ubuntu.

Enough Microsoft! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41420309)

I'm switching to Linux... oh wait

Adbuntu (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41420311)

I wonder how long until someone releases a tool to disable the ads.

Re:Adbuntu (5, Interesting)

Knuckles (8964) | about 2 years ago | (#41420461)

I wonder how long until someone releases a tool to disable the ads.

Big deal. sudo apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping. Or for the GUI, open Ubuntu Software Center, search for, e.g., "shop". Click "Show technical items" and uninstall the lens. That could be made a bit more obvious, but it's not like what you are implying.

Is it only in Unity? (1)

YukariHirai (2674609) | about 2 years ago | (#41420315)

If it's only in Unity and not KDE, then I'm a bit disappointed in Canonical, but not especially upset.

If it is in KDE too, that might just be what makes me abandon ship.

Re:Is it only in Unity? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41420395)

The Unity debacle was more than enough to send me back to Debian. There's a long history of organisations doing good then trying to monetize that and Ubuntu has now become one of those. They will fail.

Re:Is it only in Unity? (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41420431)

Those bastards at Ubuntu are trying to pay their employees again, I hope they burn in hell for trying to make a tiny profit off of me without any negative effect on my end.

So long (1, Informative)

iamwhoiamtoday (1177507) | about 2 years ago | (#41420317)

and thanks for all the fish.

Time to find another distro (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41420319)

Embedded ads? No thanks...that just doesn't fill any need I have for an OS.

Bye Fubuntu (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41420325)

It's been a pleasure, but the ride is over. Hello Gentoo, and Fedora. I'm starting to see why people pay for Windows and OSX now. Might get myself a copy of Windows 7.

Profit! (3, Interesting)

Fished (574624) | about 2 years ago | (#41420331)

1. Build a free operating system.
2. Support it for years.
3. ... have Amazon "affiliate" ads ...
4. Profit!

We've finally found out what the '...' stood for. Look for a fork of Ubuntu in 5 ... 4... 3...

Re:Profit! (4, Insightful)

Samantha Wright (1324923) | about 2 years ago | (#41420353)

I don't want to scare you, but there are already dozens [wikipedia.org] of those.

Re:Profit! (1, Interesting)

JaredOfEuropa (526365) | about 2 years ago | (#41420359)

If you build a free OS and support it for years, I think you're entitled to a little profit. Besides, a single command will get rid of the ads.

Re:Profit! (1)

rubycodez (864176) | about 2 years ago | (#41420449)

why put up witht the crappy UI? a single distro switch will get rid of all the Canonical cruft. fuck 'em.

Re:Profit! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41420481)

A single apt-get will also switch the UI. You're new to Linux, aren't you? One of the things we do on this side of the fence is provide a bunch of UI options; unlike a couple of other popular operating systems, you don't actually *have* to use the default configuration on Linux. That includes Ubuntu.

Re:Profit! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41420527)

He's a Ruby on Rails programmer. You can't expect him to know much.

Re:Profit! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41420551)

Like Debian GNU/Linux you mean? You know that about 99% of the "building" of this free OS was done by the Debian GNU/Linux community. For free.

Re:Profit! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41420607)

If you build a free OS and support it for years, I think you're entitled to a little profit.

They didn't "build" a free OS. They took a free OS that other people had built (Debian), forked it, ditched the slow-but-stable upgrade approach in favor of bleeding-edge instability, and slapped some cute branding on there.

The only things Canonical has "built" are crapware like Unity, that brilliant attempt to force a netbook-oriented interface on desktop users just after the entire Linux netbook market collapsed under pressure from Microsoft and Apple.

About those forks (1)

quixote9 (999874) | about 2 years ago | (#41420583)

There's LinuxMint [linuxmint.com] . Not precisely a fork because it's based on Debian itself, but there's the fairly recent SolusOS [solusos.com] which is a real beauty. It actually has up-to-date versions of the kernel and major software. (I know. Whoever heard of such a thing, right?)

So the countdown went through 0 and has been in positive numbers for years already.

Re:About those forks (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41420631)

The main Mint branch is actually based on ubuntu. They also have "LMDE - Linux Mint Debian Edition" which is based directly on Debian.

Easily disabled (5, Informative)

drinkypoo (153816) | about 2 years ago | (#41420337)

I too am offended to be getting advertisements by default. But thankfully, they are trivial to remove. FTFA,

Removing Shopping Results from Unity

Much like the Amazon and Ubuntu One Music web-apps you can disable the âShoppingâ(TM) feature easily.

Just open up a terminal and run:

        sudo apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping

Re:Easily disabled (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41420403)

Just open up a terminal? My grandma is not going to "just open up a terminal". That doesn't count as "trivial to remove", sorry.

Re:Easily disabled (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41420413)

LOL @grandma running Linux.

Re:Easily disabled (2)

jamstar7 (694492) | about 2 years ago | (#41420473)

I'm a grandfather and I run Linux, you insensitive clot!!!!!!!!!!!!

And I ain't foolin', either!

Re:Easily disabled (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41420419)

Your grandma also doesn't care if these ads exist.

Re:Easily disabled (1)

PixetaledPikachu (1007305) | about 2 years ago | (#41420487)

Just open up a terminal? My grandma is not going to "just open up a terminal". That doesn't count as "trivial to remove", sorry.

Did your grandma install her ubuntu box? No? Then just ask whoever installed it to do it, right after the OS setup process

Re:Easily disabled (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41420509)

The ads must not bother "your Grandma" (who I'm pretty sure is you) very much. I can only follow directions if they don't include certain words like "terminal" or "type". "Click this button" and then "type in these characters" is not any differnet from "click these buttons in this sequence"; the complexity of using a "terminal" is all in your head - especially when the string being typed in is shorter than a lot of URLs that people manage to type into a web browser all the time.

Re:Easily disabled (2)

Tubal-Cain (1289912) | about 2 years ago | (#41420585)

Email a shell script. After that you're just down to the 45-minute "Download and double click" walkthough.

Re:Easily disabled (1)

jedidiah (1196) | about 2 years ago | (#41420567)

It really depends.

Is she a helpless ninny or not? Some people are just beyond hope. If they can't be bothered to open a terminal then they are probably hopeless regardless of what OS you're using.

I know a 90 year old "great grandma" that would have no problems executing any well documented recipe you gave her.

HER daughter is a helpless ninny.

It's not necessarily an age thing.

Re:Easily disabled (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41420579)

Just use one of the available graphical package managers.

If Ubuntu still has it open synaptic, enter "shopping" in the search field, right-click on unity-lens-shopping, select remove package and then click on apply changes. should be possible with other GUIs as well - some just hide several software types by default (libraries and background services).

Re:Easily disabled (1)

The Infamous Grimace (525297) | about 2 years ago | (#41420523)

It might be 'easily' removed by someone who's comfortable opening a terminal window, but not necessarily the average user. As a distro that prides itself on ease-of-use I hope they provide an easier method than this, like a pref setting or manager app.

Re:Easily disabled (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41420555)

Sounds like the shit OEMs install on windoze computers. Also easily removed (by formatting the drive prior to installing a real operating system) but you know what would be even easier? Not having to the garbage there in the first place!

Of course we can justify it by saying that now clueless losers will pay for the development with this bullshit adware.

Ubuntu makes me sick.

HA HA (1)

Internal Modem (1281796) | about 2 years ago | (#41420341)

HA HA!

I'd prefer to pay (2)

pr0nbot (313417) | about 2 years ago | (#41420343)

I've enjoyed using Ubuntu. It was the first Linux distro that "just worked" for me (by which I mean, wifi/video/audio worked out of the box). And it's free!

I don't know what kind of ARPU they expect from this, but as an Ubuntu user I'd prefer to just pay. A freemium model would do, maybe something like "get the previous LTS version for free, get the current one for $X". Or "donate to enable advanced features" or something. But peppering my work/leisure environment with third-party advertisements (i.e. spyware and probably malware at some point)? No thanks.

Mandriva tried it (1)

betterunixthanunix (980855) | about 2 years ago | (#41420423)

Mandriva tried that, and it didn't really work out for them. Really, software is best monetized with subscriptions (e.g. RHEL), but I do not think Ubuntu's users will be willing to pay for subscriptions.

It's a small price to pay (1)

dgharmon (2564621) | about 2 years ago | (#41420345)

It's a small price to pay for such a well polished distro [lubuntu.net] ...

This is not good (1)

baalzebub (2505250) | about 2 years ago | (#41420349)

So, is this why they insisted so much on Unity? Fuck that.

Canonical is pathetic. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41420355)

I will never use the dash to search things on Amazon. What is the advantage instead of using directly the browser?
The fact is that a company like Canonical should sign real deals and not do things that are closer to a student trying to make some bucks with his blog. All these attempts show they've no business strategy.

Linux for Human Beings (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41420357)

Ubuntu: Humanizing Linux by bringing crapware. Users will feel right at home with the same kind of preinstalled junk as they'd get with Windows, but be happier knowing they were the ones who chose to put it there!

ubuntu is awful (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41420363)

it's like a cheap rip-off of os x except without all the pro apps. lmao.

Re:ubuntu is awful (1)

jedidiah (1196) | about 2 years ago | (#41420581)

Unless you have thousands of dollars to buy such apps, it doesn't matter that much really.

In the meantime, I can have a much faster machine that's also more maintainable. I can upgrade my storage and video card with ease rather than contributing to the local land fill.

Apple brand doorstops are like bitch slapping your mother.

I, for one, (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41420369)

welcome our new Unity overlords

Didn't everyone move to Mint? (1)

jlbprof (760036) | about 2 years ago | (#41420377)

Over the inflexible desktop user interface. Now it's official.

Re:Didn't everyone move to Mint? (2)

rubycodez (864176) | about 2 years ago | (#41420471)

oh yes.

Mint offers xfce, cinnamon, MATE, and KDE variations of the ubuntu-based edition. And they also have Linux Mint Debian Edition with MATE, cinnamon or xfce. And of course many other desktop managers you could install if you don't like those......

Re:Didn't everyone move to Mint? (0)

Gordonjcp (186804) | about 2 years ago | (#41420569)

Can you get Mint with Unity installed? I've always thought the poeple who insist on using Gnome 2-like UIs were a bit like the people who stuck to progman.exe when Windows 95 came out.

No more (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41420379)

No longer using Ubuntu.

The headline sounded bad, but they did it well. (4, Interesting)

raymorris (2726007) | about 2 years ago | (#41420383)

I groaned when I read the headline, picturing permanent banner ads on the desktop. When I TFA, I saw they did a goof job of it. An unobtrusive maybe even useful, way for non-coders to contribute a just a little bit to Ubuntu development. I do continue code, weekly, but still I wouldn't mind those types of carefully integrated search results too much.

Dash (5, Funny)

Halo1 (136547) | about 2 years ago | (#41420389)

Ubuntu 12.10 now includes both Amazon ads in the user's dash

I hope I'm not the only one that got visions of a /etc/profile spewing out Amazon commercials when reading the above.

Re:Dash (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41420597)

Well, they *do* already update /etc/motd with the update checking tool. :)

Apple does this (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41420397)

At least they did from my brief exposure to them. Built right into the main file menu. Microsoft probably will also but XP is good enough so I don't know if they already do. Blame users who put up with it and remember the good old days. It looks like normal people will eventually leave pc entirely for appliances so hopefully that comes before they are destroyed entirely.

Re:Apple does this (1)

goodmanj (234846) | about 2 years ago | (#41420453)

"Apple does this. At least they did from my brief exposure to them. Built right into the main file menu."

Anybody know what this anonymous coward is on about? I've used Macs since 1989, and I have no idea what he's referring to.

Re:Apple does this (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41420517)

No, they don't. Obviously you have no fucking clue about Apple and probably can't afford their products anyways. Keep your opinions to the bargain basement PCs you use.

But are the 'users' becoming products? (4, Insightful)

overshoot (39700) | about 2 years ago | (#41420405)

Here's a hint: if you're not paying for it, you are the product.

This has very obviously been Microsoft's business model for operating systems from the very beginning: they don't sell the OS to you, they sell you to the OEMs.

Re:But are the 'users' becoming products? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41420483)

Except for the fact that you CAN buy the Microsoft OS.

Windows 7 isn't all that bad if you install it from the disc, and you can usually download drivers from the OEM websites for free. They also offer 'Microsoft Security Essentials' which helps take care of viruses and other things that aren't supposed to be on your computer. For free.

And you can play games with it, which Apple and Linux still suck at doing. I mean, how do you play most games with only one button on your mouse?

Re:But are the 'users' becoming products? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41420553)

"I mean, how do you play most games with only one button on your mouse?"

By using a mouse with two buttons that work perfectly on linux and osx.

What did you wanted to say again?

Re:But are the 'users' becoming products? (5, Insightful)

betterunixthanunix (980855) | about 2 years ago | (#41420539)

Here's a hint: if you're not paying for it, you are the product.

I do not pay for this:

https://www.scientificlinux.org/ [scientificlinux.org]

Somehow, I do not think that Fermilab or CERN view me as the product.

hi debian (2)

dasacc22 (1830082) | about 2 years ago | (#41420409)

Wow, glad I just finished setting up Debian testing on my new x230 and migrated to Debian stable on a personal server I while back after the uefi bit. Ubuntu got me into Debian and away from slack and gen too from way back. Been good Ubuntu, bye.

Re:hi debian (1)

rubycodez (864176) | about 2 years ago | (#41420535)

Ubuntu was great for desktop, till they ruined it with Unity. I never considered Ubuntu good enough for server like Debian

only thing better than Debian for stability and testing, is a BSD

Re:hi debian (2)

tomhath (637240) | about 2 years ago | (#41420577)

I prefer Debian anyway. Never understood what was better about Ubuntu - bloated and ugly

The nice thing about Linux (0)

dkleinsc (563838) | about 2 years ago | (#41420437)

When a distro does something stupid, people can vote with their feet and quickly destroy the distro that isn't serving their needs, all without doing a lot of re-learning things or spending a dime.

My machine is not for your commercials. I don't care if I have to patch out these kinds of "features" and compile everything myself, it's my hardware and I will do as I please on it.

Linux land of the ads (0)

GeorgeMonroy (784609) | about 2 years ago | (#41420443)

Microsoft does not preinstall ads on their operating systems.

Re:Linux land of the ads (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41420499)

except for other Microsoft products or upgrades

Re:Linux land of the ads (1)

betterunixthanunix (980855) | about 2 years ago | (#41420565)

Neither does Red Hat. In fact, Ubuntu is a rare case of someone trying to monetize a GNU/Linux distro with advertising; most distros are either community projects or they are monetized with subscriptions.

The users have become the product. (4, Interesting)

QuietLagoon (813062) | about 2 years ago | (#41420475)

But are the 'users' becoming products?

More specifically, the attention of the users has become the product being sold. Similar to magazine subscriptions, the object is to profit off the attention of the user (reader).

Oh look! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41420479)

Even more users to Mint Linux: http://linuxmint.com/ [linuxmint.com] Om om om...

Eh, I'd be fine with this. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41420485)

I mean, if this pays for the OS and I get it for fre... heyyy WAIT A MINUTE!

Unfortunatly needed (1)

houghi (78078) | about 2 years ago | (#41420511)

If people want Linux for the Desktop, having it re-installed is the only way. PC sellers are willing to sell their PCs with any OS on it, as long as they make money.

The margins on hardware are minimal, so they look at extra income. Anti-virus programs are a nice source of income. So if they can generate extra income from Linux, they will be interested in doing that.

This is not about you and me who install are sorts of add blockers and on our Windows machines, run our free Anti virus programs.
This is about your parents PCs who will run things as they come.

Extra income will make the Linux Desktop possible. Pity that it is Ubuntu. Well, it IS the Windows distribution from Linux.

Let me be the first to say... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41420513)

FUCKYOU. First, they annoy us with "reversed" Window decorations ("We don't vote on design stuff"), then they try to stuff unity down our throats, and now this? By, 'buntu, please let the door hit you on your way out...

Two points here (3, Insightful)

rumith (983060) | about 2 years ago | (#41420519)

1) Remember, while most geeks will either be annoyed or even outright disgusted of this move, this is exactly the kind of thing that gets an operating system rolling for the wider audiences (IMO) and adds economical grounds for further expansion. Could this also be Amazon testing the potential of making Ubuntu a partner OS, since they currently lack a desktop operating system integrated with their online shopping "experience"? Maybe.
2) However what I know for sure is that this feature is likely to be US-only (unfortunately for those international Ubuntu users who prefer buying their music instead of pirating them), as is much of Amazon's stock. I mean, come on. I know that overseas shipping of physical items is hard, but working out the paperwork with the studios for selling a damn file? How hard can that be?

He who pays, owns. (4, Insightful)

goodmanj (234846) | about 2 years ago | (#41420521)

This is not just annoying, it's the beginning of the end of Ubuntu as free software. No matter how unobtrusive the ads are, if Amazon is paying Ubuntu, Ubuntu is bound to become dependent on that cash stream, which means Amazon controls what happens to Ubuntu. And Amazon has shown little interest in the future of free software.

Now, this isn't entirely a new thing: companies like IBM and Google have been paying for Linux development (in the form of hiring Linux developers) for years. But when an entire distro is financially captured by the biggest online retailer on the planet... that's something new.

Which distro will you move on to? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41420545)

I was already tired of the desktop segmentation and now this .... I can't decide if I will go openSUSE or Fedora.

What I am certain of is I will end my relationship with Ubuntu. I never cared for UbuntuOne. Hate Unity. And now ads.... I'm out.

And for those of you thinking they will uninstall/use another desktop/use Mint ... don't be so sure. At this point you will be of no use to Canonical and in their eyes you will be leaching if you don't view their ads. How long do you think that lasts?

When Ubuntu finally does make it to a tablet ... should we consider it a true Linux tablet? This is certainly not the spirit of Linux. I can't wait to see what RMS has to say.

Re:Which distro will you move on to? (1)

gshegosh (1587463) | about 2 years ago | (#41420623)

NetRunner. Best KDE distro I've tried, now on my "production" machines.
Also, comes from a company that now sponsors Kubuntu. Hopefully they don't start spoiling it with ads because of that...

just pirate windows fuck it (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41420629)

to hell with them all

So linux officially has crapware now. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41420547)

Wish it were a sign of impending success of the linux desktop, but it looks more like an act of financial desperation on the part of Canonical. They should throw in an old copy of AOL just for the lulz.

survival (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41420557)

I don't know which tone to take, we (linux supporters) all want to have linux adopted by the masses, and yet any organization that tries to do it and at the same time try to continue existing as a business, we all start to become idealistic. I think it's survival out there, all the place is taken but the apples and ms's, if canonical is teaming up with amazon or other's to get some revenue to continue and still promote ubuntu so be it.

Animal Farm? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41420559)

We pigs are brainworkers. The whole management and organisation of this farm depend on us. Day and night we are watching over your welfare. It is for YOUR sake that we drink that milk and eat those apples.

Once again the animals were conscious of a vague uneasiness. Never to have any dealings with human beings, never to engage in trade, never to make use of money— had not these been among the earliest resolutions passed at the first triumphant Meeting when Jones was expelled? All the animals remembered passing such resolutions: or at least they thought that they remembered it.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.

ubuntu forgets the one thing (4, Insightful)

rubycodez (864176) | about 2 years ago | (#41420587)

all the people who run it, but never paid, are not "freeloaders", they are the massive user base that gave the Ubuntu distro momentum and pushed it to the top of linux distros. they got it into the corporate workplace (my employer uses Ubuntu), they make the helpful forum posts, etc.

your monetizing needs to be done outside of those people, it's done with services, support, add-ons for the corporate environment, etc.

I think it's quite a good idea (0)

Gordonjcp (186804) | about 2 years ago | (#41420603)

If I want to buy stuff from Amazon (and I do, quite a bit) why should I have to bother opening up a web browser and navigating their website? Hit the search key, type in what I want and go - nice and simple.

Huh... I guess the appeal of Unity is irresistible (4, Funny)

blind biker (1066130) | about 2 years ago | (#41420617)

Now that Unity has gained Ubuntu such a great usage/market share and cemented user loyalty, Canonical can bring home the moolah by integrating Amazon ads with Unity.

(This pas was written in an alternative universe where the above makes sense)

Run until my legs pump batter acid (2)

halfkoreanamerican (2566687) | about 2 years ago | (#41420619)

Can I not go anywhere without being harassed? Now my own desktop is unsafe. If it is easy to disable or uninstall them then I will not scream about it, but if they are obnoxious then I'll just pick a different flavor linux for use. It's not like there are not other options.

Stop and think for a moment (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#41420633)

If you don't like the direction Ubuntu is taking, stop and think about the costs of developing. The costs of maintaining package servers. The cost of bandwidth. All while giving away a product that you MUST give away. How can anyone afford or stand to be so benevolent for very long? Especially when they're forced to deal with cheap, sanctimonious, immature, "freetards" for their customers?

Dudes like PV keep it real for decades but look at the crap he gets for not making Slack all pretty for you whackjobs. Unfortunately, Ubuntu tickled your asses more than any distro I've watched in a very long time, so Shuttleworth might just be reaping what he has sown. Maybe next time he'll buy better seed than is the GPL.

As for you knuckleheads, it's time to grow up and put away the tie-dyes. If you still think Linux is the real deal then pick a distro, stay with it and send it some money. If you won't then stay on Windows and shut the hell up. Your day has just passed and your joke has stopped being funny.

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