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George Zimmerman Acquitted In Death of Trayvon Martin

timothy posted about a year ago | from the you-can-now-stop-submitting-the-news dept.

The Courts 1737

theodp writes "Following nearly three weeks of testimony, a jury of six women in the George Zimmerman trial has found the former neighborhood watch volunteer not guilty of second-degree murder. He was also found not guilty of the lesser offense of manslaughter, which the jury also weighed."

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I'm amazed... (5, Insightful)

MasseKid (1294554) | about a year ago | (#44273231)

I'm amazed the Media didn't manage to convict him, despite how hard they tried.

Re:I'm amazed... (-1, Troll)

Jeremiah Cornelius (137) | about a year ago | (#44273295)

They'll never get charges to stick to a Jew, for killing a black man.

Re:I'm amazed... (0, Troll)

dan_musashi (956527) | about a year ago | (#44273439)

They'll never get charges to stick to a Jew, for killing a black man.

Really? Is this what Slashdot has become? Race-baiting and demagoguery?

Re:I'm amazed... (4, Funny)

Osgeld (1900440) | about a year ago | (#44273491)

you must be new here

Re:I'm amazed... (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273501)

Yes, that one post sums up the thoughts and feelings of everyone that posts on Slashdot. Idiot.

Re:I'm amazed... (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273511)

Know how many white people are killed each year by black people? How many robberies? Why does race never come up in any of these crimes, but comes up every time a white person does anything to a black person? (And I'm not white).

Re:I'm amazed... (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273303)

It wasn't the media, it was the perjury, the judge shopping, the refusal to obey court orders and the fact that GZ killed the only real witness that did it.

I'm very much surprised that they couldn't get him on manslaughter charges considering that GZ was on top at the time that TM was shot. I'm not sure how he would have gotten the pistol out from the holster in his back pocket while pinned to the ground.

Re:I'm amazed... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273423)

Are you trolling or just an idiot?

Re:I'm amazed... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273313)

I hope they will give him his job back as CEO of Men's Wearhouse now.

Re:I'm amazed... (0)

HotNeedleOfInquiry (598897) | about a year ago | (#44273363)

Nice. I'd upvote if I could.

Re:I'm amazed..this is on slashdot. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273333)

TSIA...WTF...

Re:I'm amazed... (5, Insightful)

girlintraining (1395911) | about a year ago | (#44273381)

I'm amazed the Media didn't manage to convict him, despite how hard they tried.

Everyone likes to talk about how they'd vote, or what they'd do. The media simply caters to that with show trials and "investigations", showing us distorted and idealized versions of this. It's the same reason why in the middle of a crisis, or when in the presence of a celebrity you'll find plenty of people whipping out their phones, and nobody actually doing anything useful. We feel important when we're around important people... or important events. We try to assure ourselves of our own relevance in whatever situation is placed in front of us. The terrorist attacks on 9/11 didn't directly affect more than a tiny, tiny fraction of the population, but everybody got emotionally involved in it, because it was spectacular, epic, and we wanted to insert ourselves into the story, the conversation, the dialogue. Show trials like this are based on this same emotional need, and the media is only too happy to indulge in it -- it sells more papers, more advertisement, etc.

But the overwhelming majority of it is total shit, and frankly harmful to our way of life. Whether Zimmerman is guilty or not, he'll never have another job. He'll always be "that guy that got away with murder", irrespective of the actual, judiciary merit of that position. There have been many people, for example, accused of rape, and were later proved not just not guilty, but totally and irrefutably innocent of the charges. Their lives were still over all the same.

The founding fathers knew this -- that's why they advocated jury trials in the first place. It was an attempt to remove this mob mentality from the judicial process, and as a balance against populism swaying the government and giving in to the transient emotional outbursts of the crowd, the mob, the public. I don't think, if they were alive today in the age of the internet and instant communication, they would still advocate that these trials be open to the public... I believe they would have wanted a person who, if found not guilty, could go back to the life they had and the community would treat them no differently. Conversely, the country was still a "big" place, in terms of social circles -- someone convicted and having served their time, could move somewhere else, start a new life, and leave their mistake(s) behind them. Neither option is possible nowadays...

Today, our justice system may still beat back the mob mentality and the public's need for vengance, and the corruption of the media, but once a person leaves the system -- guilty or innocent, their lives are irrevocably changed. And rarely is it for the better.

Re:I'm amazed... (-1, Troll)

Nimey (114278) | about a year ago | (#44273465)

"He'll never have another job."

The NRA or Fox News could find a spot for him, I'd wager.

Re:I'm amazed... (2, Interesting)

girlintraining (1395911) | about a year ago | (#44273509)

The NRA or Fox News could find a spot for him, I'd wager.

You talk about jobs, I talk about careers. He may be able to find a job here and there, but he'll never have a career again, except as a cruel joke.

Is this a hopeless request? (5, Interesting)

mtrachtenberg (67780) | about a year ago | (#44273233)

People coming from different backgrounds bring different perspectives to the Trayvon Martin shooting. Everyone feels they are right, and everyone feels strongly. Is it possible for commenters to keep that in mind? I see an early post opportunity, so I figure I'll offer the proposal.

Re:Is this a hopeless request? (5, Insightful)

nadaou (535365) | about a year ago | (#44273297)

> Everyone feels they are right, and everyone feels strongly.
> Is it possible for commenters to keep that in mind?

I'm guessing "no".

Re:Is this a hopeless request? (3, Insightful)

bigfinger76 (2923613) | about a year ago | (#44273339)

Seems to me that paying closer attention to the details of the case would be a solid choice for the media, yet much of the hype regarding this case has been purely emotional. I know it's good for ratings, but it makes the "news" seem foolish these days...

Re:Is this a hopeless request? (1, Interesting)

Nimey (114278) | about a year ago | (#44273385)

AHAHAHAHAHA.

Yes, it's hopeless.

Re:Is this a hopeless request? (1)

phantomfive (622387) | about a year ago | (#44273431)

See this question [slashdot.org] as an example, half the people answered one way, the other half with the opposite answer. Only half of them can be right, but probably very few of the answerers actually knows the answer.

Re:Is this a hopeless request? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273473)

one of the few good things about slashdot is that the earliness of your post isn't nearly as big a factor as how insightful/informative/interesting/funny it might be.

these "first" type posts are just embarrassing.

your post manipulated it's way to visibility via some other means.

Re:Is this a hopeless request? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273485)

Bot only some of us were right. Now next time someone punches me in the face I am shooting them in theirs.

Re:Is this a hopeless request? (1)

amiga3D (567632) | about a year ago | (#44273497)

I honestly don't know what happened and I don't see how anyone can say they know for sure. A lot of conflicting testimony and of the only two people who know for sure what happened one is dead. I can see why the police chose not to arrest him to start with, there was no way they could convict with the evidence they had. The prosecutor pulled out all the stops since a conviction would have given them a sure career boost but they never really had the goods to get him given the fact he had top notch legal talent to defend him. Prosecutors are used to easy cases against overworked and less experienced public defenders.

Re:Is this a hopeless request? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273503)

Who thinks he was in the right? I'm seriously not clear on that. He accosted and shot an unarmed man. In what way were his actions defensible?

Re:Is this a hopeless request? (1)

shentino (1139071) | about a year ago | (#44273523)

What's amazing is that people care more about advancing their own views than they do about discerning the truth.

Re:Is this a hopeless request? (1)

pmotuja (787913) | about a year ago | (#44273531)

If they would of kept your request in mind, they would not have created another polarity (amongst countless other ones 24/7), by whipping up angst and fury on both sides, and then showing a poll and offering the chance to vote yes or no.

Moral of the story (0, Troll)

damn_registrars (1103043) | about a year ago | (#44273237)

He who has the gun, has the power and the right to do whatever the fuck he wants.

Re:Moral of the story (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273275)

idiot

Re:Moral of the story (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273279)

He who has the gun, is automatically guilty regardless of the facts.

Fixed that for you.

Re:Moral of the story (3, Informative)

damn_registrars (1103043) | about a year ago | (#44273335)

He who has the gun, is automatically guilty regardless of the facts.

Fixed that for you.

What the fuck facts are you referring to? The facts are that he was a neighborhood watch volunteer who ignored the 911 dispatcher and chased down a kid because he thought he "looked suspicious". He then killed a kid who was armed with only a bag of skittles. If he would have followed the dispatcher's advice and waited for actual law enforcement - rather than taking on the role himself - that kid would still be alive.

Re:Moral of the story (2)

bigfinger76 (2923613) | about a year ago | (#44273373)

Following someone is not a crime. Attacking someone is, however. In fact, it's a good way to get yourself shot.

Re: Moral of the story (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273483)

If Treyvon was a woman could I follow her while carrying a loaded weapon?

Re: Moral of the story (1)

bigfinger76 (2923613) | about a year ago | (#44273527)

I'm not aware of a law against it.

Re:Moral of the story (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273401)

Facts like Zimmerman has multiple attack wounds from Martin.

Re:Moral of the story (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273409)

The facts that Zimmerman was only acting in self defense. You know, the facts that the jury used to serve justice.

Re:Moral of the story (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273357)

He who remains alive was the threatened one, because you don't hear the dead guy saying otherwise.

I don't get this obsession with the trial. Where's the investigation of the police?

Re:Moral of the story (4, Insightful)

Spy Handler (822350) | about a year ago | (#44273323)

yes, and in a few years when only the police has guns, don't be surprised when they trample all over your rights and do whatever they want.

Re:Moral of the story (2)

DogDude (805747) | about a year ago | (#44273393)

The police are already much more heavily armed than any regular person could ever hope to be. Your paranoid fears have not come to fruition, by and large.

And the blacks lose again (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273241)

When will the darkies learn to stop trying?

Re:And the blacks lose again (2)

Third Position (1725934) | about a year ago | (#44273433)

Apparently, not yet - NAACP tweets:

"BREAKING: Zimmerman acquitted on all charges.We will update you as we work to pursue civil rights charges against Zimmerman through the DOJ."

NAACP Is 'Outraged And Heartbroken,' And Will Pursue 'Civil Rights Charges' Against George Zimmerman [businessinsider.com]

C'mon - you didn't seriously think Zimmerman was going to walk unscathed, did you?

Lost. (-1, Flamebait)

VanessaE (970834) | about a year ago | (#44273243)

The united states is officially a lost cause. No justice in this country anymore.

Re:Lost. (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273325)

Anyone who followed this trial in even a cursory manner and disagrees with a not guilty verdict based on the evidence presented by the state should spend some time looking in the mirror. The level of cognitive bias required to believe that the state proved murder or manslaughter beyond a reasonable doubt is staggering. Heck, the state came closer to proving self defense beyond a reasonable doubt than they did to proving their own case.

Look, one need not believe that Zimmerman is a good guy or that any of his decisions were wise or even competent in order to understand that the state did not prove their case. He can be a bad guy and have done bad things and still be not guilty of the crime charged.

Re:Lost. (2)

taxman_10m (41083) | about a year ago | (#44273453)

Still seems like an f'd up situation. It's plausible to me that Martin was defending himself from the armed stranger following him, and then Zimmerman was defending himself from the situation he himself created. I don't feel much sympathy for Zimmerman and it seems shocking that there wasn't anything else he could have been tried and convicted on. He's innocent of the charges brought, but I don't find him innocent or blameless in this matter.

Re:Lost. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273337)

Justice was served an innocent man was set free.

Re:Lost. (1)

HotNeedleOfInquiry (598897) | about a year ago | (#44273383)

Um no. Just do a little reading and see what it takes to convict a person of second degree murder "beyond a shadow of a doubt". You're the "lost cause".

Re:Lost. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273435)

The United States is a lost cause for any number of reasons, but this isn't one of them. This decision actually restores some of my faith in the US judicial system. The race card didn't work here, as it did in the OJ trial, only facts.

Did Trayvon own an iPad? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273245)

Does anyone know?

Re: Did Trayvon own an iPad? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273463)

I called it first. Dibs

Re:Did Trayvon own an iPad? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273517)

Reminds me of a joke: What did Trayvon get for Christmas? My iPad!

Why is this on Slashdot? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273247)

Has Slashdot become a politics/crime board now?

Re:Why is this on Slashdot? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273293)

Now? Where have you been?

Re:Why is this on Slashdot? (3, Informative)

tlambert (566799) | about a year ago | (#44273305)

Has Slashdot become a politics/crime board now?

It's related to the earlier story where an IT guy was fired by the AG office because he called them on not revealing exculpatory evidence during the discovery process. They also photoshopped Zimmerman's image into black and white to make his nose look less severe than it was.

Here's the story on the IT director who was fired from earlier today:
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/07/13/238229/whistleblowing-it-director-fired-by-fl-state-attorney [slashdot.org]

/. on State of Florida vs. George Zimmerman (2)

theodp (442580) | about a year ago | (#44273489)

How many people are surprised at this verdict? (5, Insightful)

I'm New Around Here (1154723) | about a year ago | (#44273249)

I'm not surprised that the final verdict is not guilty on any count, since the state didn't show proof of guilt.

I am surprised the jury members didn't cave in to the threats of violence and find him guilty of the manslaughter that was thrown in at the end.

Good for them for doing their jobs.

Re:How many people are surprised at this verdict? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273285)

Threats of violence? Care to elaborate? I haven't heard anything about that recently.

Re:How many people are surprised at this verdict? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273331)

What threats of violence? The only people threatening violence were the racists doing so on behalf of the black community. Apart from that bigoted speculation, I haven't seen anything at all to indicate that there would be any sort of rioting.

And yes they did their job, but there's still a ton of unanswered questions, such as how GZ was able to shoot TM while pinned to the ground on top of his firearm. And unfortunately, we'll never know because GZ is a liar and TM is dead.

The most likely explanation is that the witnesses that saw GZ on top were correct and that GZ, the only person that claims otherwise, was lieing.

Does anyone know (3, Interesting)

phantomfive (622387) | about a year ago | (#44273255)

Does anyone know if the result was related to the "Stand Your Ground" law? I'm having trouble finding a good answer.

Re:Does anyone know (5, Informative)

Neppy (673459) | about a year ago | (#44273265)

Stand your ground was not used as a defense in this case so no relation at all.

Re:Does anyone know (-1)

hedwards (940851) | about a year ago | (#44273347)

Right, which is ultimately a good thing, because having somebody acquitted on those grounds would just bolster the law.

The law itself is bullshit because it doesn't have any particular requirements other than the ability to claim that you feared for your life.

Re:Does anyone know (2)

kick6 (1081615) | about a year ago | (#44273417)

Right, which is ultimately a good thing, because having somebody acquitted on those grounds would just bolster the law.

The law itself is bullshit because it doesn't have any particular requirements other than the ability to claim that you feared for your life.

So the law is bullshit because it doesn't have any particular requirments except for the requirements you don't like. Got it.

Re:Does anyone know (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273535)

No, it's bullshit because if everyone in Florida carried a gun then they could murder anyone they wanted and get away with it. They only have to be alone with someone for a period of time and say, "Well, they had a gun. I feared for my life. I had to defend myself."

Re:Does anyone know (2)

damn_registrars (1103043) | about a year ago | (#44273291)

Does anyone know if the result was related to the "Stand Your Ground" law? I'm having trouble finding a good answer.

His defense played both sides of "stand your ground". They claimed he was attacked and entitled to use it, even though he claimed he was not familiar with it (even though he took courses that covered it). They also tried to claim that it was somehow valid in a case where the person with the gun is pursuing the other person.

Somehow, in Florida, this all makes sense. I'm glad I don't live there and now I have at least one more reason not to visit there any time soon.

Re:Does anyone know (3, Insightful)

hedwards (940851) | about a year ago | (#44273367)

The disturbing thing is that in a more civilized part of the country, beating somebody that's on the ground would entitle the person on the ground to self defense, not the person that instigated the fight and is now standing over the victim. Which is what witnesses testified to and is the only way that GZ could have used the weapon that he would have been lieing on if pinned.

I'll add this to my list of reasons why I'm not going to be going to the FL ever again. I'm not sure how anybody can think that menacing a kid can turn into legitimate self defense.

Re:Does anyone know (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273425)

I'd mod ya up, but am not logged in. Bravo. You get it. Maybe there is hope for us.

Re:Does anyone know (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273365)

No. They actually declined to use that in his defense as the circumstances didn't warrant it. A simple "Self Defense" approach was all that was needed, because that was exactly what happened.

Whether or not Zimmerman started the altercation by confronting Martin, at a certain point it became a deadly fight for survival, and by the available evidence it seems that Martin is the one that crossed that line first. At that point Zimmerman was justified in using any means at his disposal to defend himself. Clearly, the Jury agreed.

Justice has prevailed, despite the Media's attempt to convict Zimmerman in the "Court of Public Opinion" and by playing the "race card" so many times one thought that was the only card in their deck.

Trayvon Martin is dead because he was a punk who thought he could give an armed man a beat down ganster style, not because he was black.

George Zimmerman is free because he effectively defended himself against a deadly attacker, not because he is white (hispanic).

End of story.

Re:Does anyone know (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273375)

My understanding is this: Without that law, you've got a duty to retreat if possible, and then the burden of proof is on the defendant to show that he or she had to use deadly force. Zimmerman didn't have to prove anything here, so that must not have applied. The stand-your-ground law must have been in effect.

Why is this on Slashdot? (2, Insightful)

SuperKendall (25149) | about a year ago | (#44273267)

I normally dislike those people who whine about this or that story being on Slashdot, because there is generally some kind of technological thread to it or else social issues that technical people need to be aware of.

However there seems to be NO reason to have this story on Slashdot. There's no technological angle. There's nothing in the trying of this that really relates to technology in any kind of larger context. So come on, leave general news on whatever sites people use for news and try to keep at least some shred of technology within Slashdot stories.

Re:Why is this on Slashdot? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273271)

I just asked the same question and my comment was deleted.

Re:Why is this on Slashdot? (1)

gmuslera (3436) | about a year ago | (#44273301)

The technological side is how people loses the big picture when something shiny is shown to them. Somewhat this what the most important thing in the world, instead what the government and the DOJ is perpetrating elsewhere.

Re:Why is this on Slashdot? (-1, Troll)

damn_registrars (1103043) | about a year ago | (#44273319)

However there seems to be NO reason to have this story on Slashdot.

It is on slashdot because it is a conservative victory, and this is a conservative web site. Any news that proclaims victory for conservatives - even if they are a loss for justice itself - automatically make the front page. Expect to see a front page story here when the Texas governor signs the latest anti-abortion bill as well.

leave general news on whatever sites people use for news and try to keep at least some shred of technology within Slashdot stories.

You are thinking of the slashdot that we had back in 2000 or so. That slashdot is dead and buried. We aren't even lucky enough to have its old source code any more at this time.

Re:Why is this on Slashdot? (4, Insightful)

mysidia (191772) | about a year ago | (#44273451)

It is on slashdot because it is a conservative victory, and this is a conservative web site. Any news that proclaims victory for conservatives - even if they are a loss for justice itself - automatically make the front page. Expect to see a front page story here when the Texas governor signs the latest anti-abortion bill as well.

This is not a conservative victory. This is the court doing its job to find the truth and making rulings on the law and the disposition of alleged criminals.

Re:Why is this on Slashdot? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273391)

Here is an IT angle, but the moderators / news submitters are too dense to bring it up:

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/13/justice/zimmerman-it-firing/index.html

That's already on Slashdot in another story (2)

SuperKendall (25149) | about a year ago | (#44273429)

Here is an IT angle

Look just two stories down or so on the main, page, that's already on Slashdot [slashdot.org] .

That's what is really vexing me, the only possible technical link is already present and under heavy discussion (though of course it devolved into mindless bickering immediately). So we did NOT need this new story that it merely here to let people bitch one way or the other.

Re:Why is this on Slashdot? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273415)

Yeah, especially since the story about the IT director who was fired by the Florida AG was already posted here today, in fact just two stories ago. That kind of story satisfied what might be called the "techie bridge", i.e. you can get a major mainstream news story accepted here if you play up the IT angle, even if it's somewhat tenuous. Then posters can choose to comment on either the mainstream story or the IT stuff.

My observation is that Timothy seems to be right-wing on politics in general, especially on guns and Obama; Samzenpus may be left-wing. The NSA thing seems to have ticked off both the left and the right (b/c they're anti-Obama), but not the center so much.

Re:Why is this on Slashdot? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273427)

This story will have 1000 comments by mid day tomorrow.

$$$$$$$

Re:Why is this on Slashdot? (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | about a year ago | (#44273449)

Depressing, but you know what? You may have the most insightful comment we will ever see related to this story and Slashdot. :-(

Re:Why is this on Slashdot? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273441)

Because Slashdot has seriously degraded as a tech news site since Cmdr Taco left. It was actually going downhill before that, but it's really nosedived since. I've watched the traffic stats over the years, and Slashdot has lost out to better sites that write original articles.

Re:Why is this on Slashdot? (1)

proverbialcow (177020) | about a year ago | (#44273445)

This story is filed under YRO, which historically has encompassed far more than just online rights. The story heading used to include the YRO header, but that's been gone for a while.

Re:Why is this on Slashdot? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273447)

It falls under "stuff that matters".

A guy was in his vehicle with a gun. He followed a boy, despite not seeing any crime. The boy was shot and died.

Verdict is, he did it legally.

Re:Why is this on Slashdot? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273505)

The boy was shot and died after said boy attacked the defendant.

Verdict is, he did it legally.

Fixed that for you.

Because... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273533)

All the Hans Reiser's out there are dying to hear "Not Guilty" when their turn comes....

Justice is done (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273269)

The whole hinged on the who was the aggressor, who through the first punch. The prosecution never proved a scenario where George was the aggressor. Case closed.

Re: Justice is done (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273371)

Pursuing a random unarmed person in your car while armed with a gun isn't aggressive?

Re:Justice is done (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273377)

... because chasing someone through dark alleys while armed is not aggressive in the slightest.

All genuine Americans rejoice (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273273)

Your right of self-defense against evil forces has been preserved!

It is time to stop the Africanization of America!

Disclaimer: I am not white.

news for douches, shit that doesnt matter (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273299)

there is no, zero, absolutely none, relationship between this story and between anything even remotely connected to geek culture.

this is a fucking pop news fad meme based on a criminal legal case, one amongst millions of such legal cases that occur all the time.

unless you are initerested in criminology, you are stupid for caring about this and stupid for following it.

go follow something fucking important. stop wasting your life.

Due Process (5, Insightful)

nebrfan (1009459) | about a year ago | (#44273307)

It's better to let a guilty man go free then to put an innocent man behind bars.

Re:Due Process (3, Insightful)

seebs (15766) | about a year ago | (#44273341)

Pretty much. I don't particularly think Zimmerman's innocent, but I do think there is a pretty good case that there's reasonable doubt as to whether he's guilty. I mean, come on. Does anyone seriously think O. J. Simpson didn't kill those people? Nah. But the prosecution failed to prove their case, so he was "not guilty".

Re:Due Process (3, Insightful)

I'm New Around Here (1154723) | about a year ago | (#44273455)

Pretty much. I don't particularly think Zimmerman's innocent, but I do think there is a pretty good case that there's reasonable doubt as to whether he's guilty. I mean, come on. Does anyone seriously think O. J. Simpson didn't kill those people? Nah. But the prosecution failed to prove their case, so he was "not guilty".

That's a big part of my reasoning on these cases. It's not just that there isn't enough evidence to convict. The prosecution actually so botched their own case, they couldn't win. In the OJ case, the police and investigators assisted in that acquittal quite a bit through their own stupidity and cluelessness. This time, the police did their job, and the prosecution helped the evidence prove the case for the defense.

Fuck you America (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273321)

Die like the cancer you are.

Presumption of Innocence (5, Insightful)

Bob9113 (14996) | about a year ago | (#44273387)

I think it boils down to presumption of innocence. There was not enough concrete evidence of exactly what happened to find him guilty. I suspect he committed manslaughter, and that Trayvon escalated the situation, and that under our legal system Zimmerman should not be found guilty. Given the uncertainty, it is an accurate reflection of our preference to let a guilty man go free than to convict an innocent man.

Re:Presumption of Innocence (2)

Nimey (114278) | about a year ago | (#44273481)

Except Mr. Wannabe Cop with his CCW chased down an innocent kid for no reason and the encounter led to the kid's death. Morally, he's a murderer.

Tech news? (1)

Horshu (2754893) | about a year ago | (#44273413)

Is there some kind of tech issue that makes this relevant to Slashdot? It's bad enough that the trial took over CNN and ever political blog on the planet, but Slashdot now? Was Zimmerman an open-source advocate or something?

Re:Tech news? (1, Funny)

damn_registrars (1103043) | about a year ago | (#44273475)

Was Zimmerman an open-source advocate or something?

It appears he was an advocate of an open-source legal system, where you can write your own laws and then apply them as you see fit. As to whether or not he ever submitted his code for review is another question, he may have just been his own rogue alpha tester.

A victory for stalkers everywhere. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273419)

It's disgusting that the people calling for Zimmerman to be found not guilty are the same people who disregarded the fact that Trayvon Martin was never given a trial, for whatever alleged crimes George Zimmerman suspected him of. Trayvon never had the opportunity to defend himself in a court of law. He never had the chance to defend himself against whatever charges George Zimmerman not only found him guilty of, but sentenced him to death because of. A 17 year old kid is dead, and no one is going to be held accountable. Apparently we all now have the right to be judge, jury, and executioner, as long as we say we were defending ourselves after the fact. Even if we were the ones who initiated the confrontation in the first place. This case sets a very dangerous precedent.

Way to hammer that last nail, Timothy (0, Flamebait)

Perx (107558) | about a year ago | (#44273421)

Never again. Fuck this site and its divergence from 'News for Nerds' and 'Stuff that Matters'.

A gun is a coward's weapon (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273459)

And this trial proves it. If he didn't have the gun, he would never have been stalking the victim.

Re:A gun is a coward's weapon (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273529)

if the "victim" was in school, not mouthing off, and in the process of not beating him to death the gun would have not emerged, fuck that thug, he received the final answer to his actions

Not a surprise (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273469)

If you followed any law blogs that actually watched the trial, they seemed to generally agree the state had a very weak case at best, and the witnesses they called often help the defendant far more than the prosecution. So its not surprise he was acquitted.

time to turn the table around (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#44273493)

the blacks have too much power. it is time to shut them down. they don't deserve it.

Political agendas (5, Interesting)

Dan East (318230) | about a year ago | (#44273507)

I'll tell you what bothered me most about this trial. There's a reason that Zimmerman went free immediately, and no charges were pressed. The evidence backed his story. It was obvious to all those investigating and the DA, etc, that it was a case of self defense. It wasn't because of a bunch of racist law enforcement officers or prosecutors that tried to sweep it under the rug or somehow distort the facts that Zimmerman wasn't charged. The media and politicians decided to make it into something else. Pictures of a smiling 12 year old Martin were shown continuously by the media. Obama said it "could have been my son" that was killed. Special prosecutors were brought in to try and make something happen. When these prosecutors rested their case, then tried to get anything to stick (homicide, even "child abuse") the underlying desperation and total lack of a case was made even more apparent.

It ticks me off that Martin was exploited by news organizations and politicians to make some sort of cause to rally behind or push agendas.

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