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Saudi Justice: 10 Years and 2,000 Lashes For Internet Video of Naked Dancing

timothy posted 1 year,11 days | from the this-will-really-dent-exchange-student-applications dept.

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An anonymous reader writes with a link to The Huffington Post, which reports "that a Saudi man was sentenced to 2,000 lashes and 10 years in prison for dancing naked on the roof of a car and posting the video online, according to multiple reports. Three other men were also sentenced to three to seven years in jail and hundreds of lashes each for the incident, Agence France-Presse reported, citing Arabic-language paper Al-Sharq. The four men were hit with a number of charges, including "encouraging vice" and violating public morality, according to the report. The prosecutor in the case, which was heard by a judge in Saudi Arabia's conservative Al-Qassem province, reportedly objected to the sentences for being "too lenient," Gulf News notes. The video was reportedly circulated widely on the Internet, but could not be found by The Huffington Post."

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Being a Saudi (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,11 days | (#45090811)

It is worth it just to see that.

Re:Being a Saudi (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,11 days | (#45090987)

I'm pretty sure that's exactly what Christian fanatics (mostly republicans) want for America as well.

Re:Being a Saudi (-1, Flamebait)

Joce640k (829181) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091151)

He got off lightly. If they followed The Bible literally he'd be dead by now.

Re:Being a Saudi (1)

PRMan (959735) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091283)

Verse?

Re:Being a Saudi (4, Informative)

tacroy (813477) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091651)

Really? Because I remember a story where a women caught in the act of adultery was brought to Jesus and He basically said "Don't judge her, you have no right. Then asked her to stop doing it." Very little murder was involved. Reference: http://biblehub.com/nlt/john/8.htm [biblehub.com]

Re:Being a Saudi (1)

Sperbels (1008585) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091813)

Riiight...let he who is without sin cast the first stone and all that. Not a very practical parable though. I'm not sure what exactly it's trying get across, but it certainly has nothing to do with how our laws are enforced.

Don't forget Ananias (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,11 days | (#45091815)

Book: Acts. Chapter 5. Ananias converted to Christianity and was told to sell all his posessions and give all the money to the commune. Instead, he gave only half the money, and kept the other half.

A priest asked him about this, and he lied and said "I gave all the money." In punishment, God instantly killed him then and there. The same thing happened to his wife shortly thereafter.

What happened to all the forgiveness and compassion?

This is a major problem with the Bible: it presents a very inconsistent image of God. Sometimes he is over-the-top forgiving, and other times he is over-the-top brutal in punishment. There is a distinct lack of consistency, leaving his followers to wonder when their best efforts at pleasing Him will just make Him go irate again.

"Mysterious ways" does not capture it. "Sociopathic ways" is more accurate. I really, really hope the Bible is not accurate in its description of God.

Re:Being a Saudi (1)

green1 (322787) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091761)

From my understanding, 2000 lashes pretty much is a death sentence.

Re:Being a Saudi (-1)

Oligonicella (659917) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091161)

Then you're a paranoid fucking idiot. A hate monger as well, as you purposely conflate an extreme minority here with the majority there that condone this.

Re:Being a Saudi (4, Insightful)

smooth wombat (796938) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091187)

Extremism is extremism, no matter how large or small.

Re:Being a Saudi (3, Insightful)

PRMan (959735) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091307)

Even extreme atheism?

Re:Being a Saudi (1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,11 days | (#45091429)

Yes.

FYI: I am an atheist.

Re:Being a Saudi (3, Funny)

shentino (1139071) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091453)

I'm extremely moderate.

Re:Being a Saudi (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,11 days | (#45091285)

Butt-hurt much? Gee, easy on the hissy fit, please.

Re:Being a Saudi (1)

kaizendojo (956951) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091643)

Then you're a paranoid fucking idiot. A hate monger as well, as you purposely conflate an extreme minority here with the majority there that condone this.

And just what do you call what you just did? 'Reasonable response'?

Re:Being a Saudi (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,11 days | (#45091725)

Extreme minority? No.

There's a reason that Fox News has the most viewers.

I agree with the punishment (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,11 days | (#45090825)

Did you see just how bad their dancing was? That is worth 2000 lashes.

Re:I agree with the punishment (2)

houstonbofh (602064) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091129)

Did you see just how bad their dancing was? That is worth 2000 lashes.

No, and I do not want to. But I forsee a new rash of links that are a bastard combination of Rick Rolling and Goatse... And I weep...

Re:I agree with the punishment (3, Funny)

fustakrakich (1673220) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091443)

...I forsee a new rash...

That would imply something more than just dancing..

Coming soon to your country. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,11 days | (#45090859)

Soon you will have the same law in your country if you do not kick muslims out.

Re:Coming soon to your country. (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,11 days | (#45090897)

In the US you can be murdered just for having the wrong sexual identity or of the wrong race. Until you clean up your act, your media needs to shut their damn mouth and learn some respect.

Re:Coming soon to your country. (4, Insightful)

X0563511 (793323) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091093)

There's a small difference between random citizens breaking the law in doing that, and the system of justice doing it itself. You should shut your own mouth.

Re:Coming soon to your country. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,11 days | (#45091351)

In virtually every country, you can be murdered for having money in the wallet. Does that mean the country is bad?

Yes, there are hate crimes... but usually someone caught doing a "fag bash" will get a 10+ year sentence just due to the pressure put on the judge and DA by the press and other groups.

I'd say the US is far safer to be a LGBT type than virtually any other country, except Canada and western Europe (where the murder rate is almost nil [1])

[1]: The main reason the US's murder rate is so high is the availability of firearms.

Re:Coming soon to your country. (3, Interesting)

TheCarp (96830) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091507)

> Yes, there are hate crimes... but usually someone caught doing a "fag bash" will get a 10+ year
> sentence just due to the pressure put on the judge and DA by the press and other groups.

But of course, part of that is because violent crime isn't generally all that punishable itself without "hate crimes". We had a prosecutor arguing to extend hate crimes legislation to homeless people.

Why? Because a homeless man was beat within an inch of his life by two guys for kicks, and because there was nothing stolen, no home to invade, and no defined hate crime, they were out in a couple of months...for coming just short of murder.

Seemed to me at the time the problem was not that homeless people need a special designation but that violent crime is poorly differentiated and there are gaping holes in the law that they are now trying to fix....with duct tape.

Re:Coming soon to your country. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,11 days | (#45091785)

> [1]: The main reason the US's murder rate is so high is the availability of firearms.

The main reason the US's murder rate is so high is the existence of niggers. Get the facts and statistics.

Re:Coming soon to your country. (3, Insightful)

o'reor (581921) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091111)

Oh come on. Is it Muslims that are suing the Kansas Board of Schools for teaching evolution in classes ? Is it Muslims that enacted abortion laws that require medical rape with a sonar to make women feel more guilty for doing it ?

You've got enough brain-dead biggots in your country to make it as bad any backwards theocracy.

Re:Coming soon to your country. (1, Insightful)

i kan reed (749298) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091417)

Eh, it's still an extreme comparison. This is a person who is having their life ruined, suffering literal torture, and all for the sake of one interpretation of one book.

I don't think Christianity is an accurate understanding of the universe, and I don't think it's even close to an ideal approach to morality, but comparing people who are afraid of learning something to those who torture and imprison others on the basis of their religion isn't fair.

Re:Coming soon to your country. (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,11 days | (#45091569)

I think it's entirely fair. The only difference between these two groups is the book they've chosen. It took a lot of work and loss of life to chill the Christians down to a point where they are almost tolerable, but they have everything they need to become (again) what the Muslims are today.

Re:Coming soon to your country. (2, Insightful)

i kan reed (749298) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091791)

I think it's entirely fair. The only difference between these two groups is the book they've chosen.

Nope, the difference, as can be seen throughout the world, is poverty. Cultures with a lot of poverty take an extreme approach to enforcing morality. Christians still execute gay people in Uganda. Turkey is a mostly Muslim country without these kinds of extreme civil rights abuses.

It took a lot of work and loss of life to chill the Christians down to a point where they are almost tolerable, but they have everything they need to become (again) what the Muslims are today.

And this is a brash and unsupported argument.

Re:Coming soon to your country. (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,11 days | (#45091847)

You are so retarded that nothing can save you...

Re:Coming soon to your country. (1)

sideslash (1865434) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091663)

Is it Muslims that enacted abortion laws that require medical rape with a sonar to make women feel more guilty for doing it?

You don't have the same unrestricted right to kill babies everywhere in the USA, if that's what you're asking. That is what you're asking, right?

Re:Coming soon to your country. (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,11 days | (#45091851)

Killing babies is illegal, but irrelevant to this discussion because we're talking about abortion, which is something entirely different.

Re:Coming soon to your country. (1, Insightful)

Conspiracy_Of_Doves (236787) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091275)

I'm more afraid of the Christians enacting shit like this.

Re:Coming soon to your country. (1)

cold fjord (826450) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091753)

Based on what?

Why do we bother with the barbarians? (5, Insightful)

h4rr4r (612664) | 1 year,11 days | (#45090861)

I get that they have oil, but come on already. This sort of crap should simply not be tolerated by the west. We should not sell them arms or have diplomatic relations with these kinds of states. They abuse women, have a cave man's idea of a criminal justice system, are a theocracy and fund terrorism. What else do they need to do before we decide to stop tolerating their shit?

Re:Why do we bother with the barbarians? (5, Insightful)

gstoddart (321705) | 1 year,11 days | (#45090939)

What else do they need to do before we decide to stop tolerating their shit?

Stop having all of that lovely oil?

When your former presidents are business partners with them, that tells you a little about why nobody is really pushing them on this.

Follow the money.

Re:Why do we bother with the barbarians? (1)

X0563511 (793323) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091103)

Fortunately that lovely lovely oil won't last forever.

Re:Why do we bother with the barbarians? (4, Interesting)

SuricouRaven (1897204) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091653)

This is why the UAE is trying to kick-start a world-leading financial industry. Their plan is to throw oil money into getting it started, so once the oil money runs out they'll have a new service industry ready to take over.

Re:Why do we bother with the barbarians? (2)

Oligonicella (659917) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091249)

If developed, we have enough of our own resources to ignore them until they starve. We really don't need their oil as much as we need for locals to stop opposing all development because their crystal's auras tell them to.

Re:Why do we bother with the barbarians? (1, Troll)

gandhi_2 (1108023) | 1 year,11 days | (#45090941)

our postmodern liberal ideals dictate that it isn't up to us to judge their culture.
it's all good.

Re:Why do we bother with the barbarians? (0)

h4rr4r (612664) | 1 year,11 days | (#45090965)

Oh bullshit. If they did not have the oil and own the Bush family we would not avoid judging them.

Re:Why do we bother with the barbarians? (1)

gandhi_2 (1108023) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091003)

You REALLY think most people are inclined to give Saudis a pass because they have Bush ties???

We get more oil from Canada than Saudi Arabia.

Re:Why do we bother with the barbarians? (2)

i kan reed (749298) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091053)

"We" means the people of the U.S. not the individual who was in a position of high authority for a decade. Conveniently, in that time span, we also invaded their biggest regional political rival for reasons that were clearly bogus.

Now one doesn't need to necessarily level conspiracy theories here, but I feel no need to give a benefit of the doubt when it comes to that particular individual.

Re:Why do we bother with the barbarians? (1)

Nimey (114278) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091207)

Also a Saudi prince owns a good chunk of Fox Agitprop.

Got a cite for your claim about who sells us more oil?

Re:Why do we bother with the barbarians? (2)

erikkemperman (252014) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091257)

No, not because they Bush ties. Or not just. But this brutal dictatorship is allowing the US to have military bases within its borders. Which came in handy once or twice in recent history.

The fact that their population is rather pissed about this state of affairs is irrelevant, in the minds of both Saudi and US governments. And not often pointed out in Western media.

Re:Why do we bother with the barbarians? (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091597)

You really think most people matter?

Oil is fungible. It matters not where it comes from. Buying Canadian oil increases the price of all oil.

Re:Why do we bother with the barbarians? (2)

gstoddart (321705) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091019)

our postmodern liberal ideals dictate that it isn't up to us to judge their culture.

Alternately, your modern conservative ideals say that you'll only intervene in places which have oil and economic interests -- but anything can happen in places which don't.

The morality of government is closely tied to economics, which means they get selectively applied.

Re:Why do we bother with the barbarians? (4, Insightful)

gandhi_2 (1108023) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091141)

So in the two times we invaded Iraq, how many of them resulted in us taking oil?
How much money in natural resources has the US made in Afghanistan?
What riches did we try for in Haiti or Somalia?

Re:Why do we bother with the barbarians? (2, Insightful)

gstoddart (321705) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091269)

So in the two times we invaded Iraq, how many of them resulted in us taking oil?

Do you know that before the second time the US went into Iraq American politicians were saying they could fund the war with sweetheart deals on oil from Iraq? It was pretty much a stated intent.

Do you know that none of the reasons for invading Iraq the second time were true? And that everyone knew they weren't true?

So, if it wasn't economics, what was the purpose of the war in Iraq? To stroke Bush's ego?

Re:Why do we bother with the barbarians? (3, Insightful)

swillden (191260) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091559)

But whatever politicians may have been saying, AFAICT, we didn't, in fact, get any sweetheart deals on oil from Iraq. Perhaps we kept Hussein from cutting us off, but I don't see any evidence he was going to do that.

Re:Why do we bother with the barbarians? (0)

PRMan (959735) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091349)

Exactly. I love that argument because it's so ridiculous. Do you honestly think that either Iraq or Afghanistan was a net financial positive for the US?

Re:Why do we bother with the barbarians? (4, Insightful)

Aaden42 (198257) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091441)

For the part of the US that matters (and can afford to buy politicians)? Sure! Haliburton et al. made quite the tidy profit from the whole affair.

Re:Why do we bother with the barbarians? (2)

fritsd (924429) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091437)

Saddam had threatened to sell the Iraqi oil for Euros instead of U.S. Dollars. I thought everybody knew this already. It would set a precedent that U.S. Dollars are only needed for buying American products.

Re:Why do we bother with the barbarians? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,11 days | (#45091553)

The US did not invade to "steal their oil". It invaded to drive them out of the market and push up the price on the rest of the oil.
When the price of a gallon of gas doubles due to a bullshit war, where do you think that money goes?
It didn't suddenly cost twice as much to dig in Venezuela or Canada (or even Saudi Arabia). Refining is still the same cost.
Transport, no change*. The only place left is .... Profit!!

*Not exactly true - actually, they win twice here. The increased cost of the diesel to deliver the gas is both pure profit and an excuse for more price rises.

Re:Why do we bother with the barbarians? (1)

Zemran (3101) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091679)

Have you any idea how much it costs to wage war? Do you know who gets those profits? Dick Cheney is always a big winner but the list is nearly all members of GW's friends. It does not matter about the oil, just keep dropping those bombs and those making the decisions will continue to get richer while the plebs die or go bankrupt trying to pay for their healthcare.

Re:Why do we bother with the barbarians? (1)

PRMan (959735) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091321)

Really? They've done nothing but judge their culture on this thread...

Re:Why do we bother with the barbarians? (2)

c (8461) | 1 year,11 days | (#45090943)

What else do they need to do before we decide to stop tolerating their shit?

Run out of oil.

Re:Why do we bother with the barbarians? (3, Interesting)

somersault (912633) | 1 year,11 days | (#45090963)

They abuse women, have a cave man's idea of a criminal justice system, are a theocracy and fund terrorism. What else do they need to do before we decide to stop tolerating their shit?

Are we still talking about Saudi Arabia?

Re:Why do we bother with the barbarians? (0)

h4rr4r (612664) | 1 year,11 days | (#45090981)

Probably several other States too, but we can start there yes.

Re:Why do we bother with the barbarians? (-1, Troll)

ashvagan (885082) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091099)

Let's start with United States of America then :)

Re:Why do we bother with the barbarians? (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091621)

We do not have a theocracy, and our women seem to have fairly equal rights.

Re:Why do we bother with the barbarians? (0)

ashvagan (885082) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091741)

and women still get abused, more than in Saudi Arabia. Also, US doesn't need to fund terrorism if they can do it themselves.

Re:Why do we bother with the barbarians? (2)

ja (14684) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091011)

The US funds them to have its bases there. The fifth fleet, for example, is headquartered in Bahrain of all places and would be kicked out the instant the oppressive regime was overturned. Smile and be happy while it lasts.

Re:Why do we bother with the barbarians? (1)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091033)

Just the other day there was a story about the US having more oil and gas than Saudi Arabia, and somebody commented that the EU still needs Saudi oil, so I responded that perhaps the EU should deal with their own problems then.

The groupthink mods on Slashdot still think the Marshall Plan is in effect. They ought to talk to the ghost of Charles de Gaulle about that.

Re:Why do we bother with the barbarians? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,11 days | (#45091265)

Exporting to other countries is very important!

Re: We the barbarians? (1)

MRe_nl (306212) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091119)

The problem is thus:
Almost every state sells arms or has diplomatic relations with every other state. Women are abused everywhere, almost everywhere there's a cave man's idea of a criminal justice system in place, many people are deeply religious, and many support one form of violence or another. What else do we need to do before we decide to stop tolerating our shit?

Re:Why do we bother with the barbarians? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,11 days | (#45091145)

Because they're not Christians. It's very unPC to beat on someone for their religious ideals unless they're Christians.
 
And I'm not a Christian but the double standard really does reek to high heaven (so to speak). The government and the mainstream media keep themselves on a short leash when it comes to showing people for what they are if they're not redneck Christian fundies.

Re:Why do we bother with the barbarians? (1)

Nyder (754090) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091263)

I get that they have oil, but come on already. This sort of crap should simply not be tolerated by the west. We should not sell them arms or have diplomatic relations with these kinds of states. They abuse women, have a cave man's idea of a criminal justice system, are a theocracy and fund terrorism. What else do they need to do before we decide to stop tolerating their shit?

Why the fuck is up to us to do something about it? Saudi can take care of it's own shit, and make it's own laws. They want to be stupid, let them.

Re:Why do we bother with the barbarians? (1)

Garbonzo Pitts (249836) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091311)

It's not our business to change them in their home country, but the west shouldn't import people from barbaric countries.

Re:Why do we bother with the barbarians? (1)

GeekWithAKnife (2717871) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091503)

This is where your suggested approach fails; if we have no relations with them and we isolate "barbarians" they will most likely only come to reject us and never learn any better. Like the odd kid in the school, if everyone shuns him there's a higher chance he'll become a bitter, resentful loner.

Re:Why do we bother with the barbarians? (1)

sudon't (580652) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091529)

I get that they have oil, but come on already. This sort of crap should simply not be tolerated by the west. We should not sell them arms or have diplomatic relations with these kinds of states. They abuse women, have a cave man's idea of a criminal justice system, are a theocracy and fund terrorism. What else do they need to do before we decide to stop tolerating their shit?

"We" have nothing to do with it. The ruling class has their own reasons for what they do, and morality doesn't have much to do with it.

Re:Why do we bother with the barbarians? (1, Interesting)

Empiric (675968) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091567)

I'm unclear on one point here, since you're using the broad term "theocracy" (any religion's government would be the same for all practical purposes? Taoism? Zen?)...

The criminal justice system in the West is formed entirely from norms formed from its Judeo-Christian history.

The cave man has no basis by which to consider any action better or worse ethically than any other action, and neither do you, today.

Go ahead. Show me on the basis of Naturalistic evolution how anything about this, or anything else, is at all is the least objectionable, should the action happen to net out in more efficiently propagating one's own DNA, by any indirect route.

Re:Why do we bother with the barbarians? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,11 days | (#45091681)

You seem to think that it is the responsibility of the US to dictate morality and law to the rest of the world. You must be forgetting that each nation in the world is sovereign, meaning that they can do whatever they want within their own borders so long as it doesn't affect anyone outside their borders. This may not be your ideal - after all, you clearly want to enforce your morality on Saudi Arabia. However, consider it the other way around: what if Saudi Arabia were the more powerful country. Would you want them enforcing their morality on you?

I suspect that you would find it a heinous violation of your national sovereignty, your individual rights, and your personal morality to be subject to Sharia Law. Just like they would surely find it a heinous violation of their national sovereignty, their legal system, and their personal morality to be subject to your morals and legal code.

This is not to say that individual countries cannot choose how they want to react, but you need to be much more aware of the realities of the world and of politics, or you will remain one of the ignorant screaming masses who just cause more problems because they mistakenly think they are solving other (often less important) problems.

Re:Why do we bother with the barbarians? (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,11 days | (#45091831)

I get that they have oil, but come on already. This sort of crap should simply not be tolerated by the west. We should not sell them arms or have diplomatic relations with these kinds of states. They abuse women, have a cave man's idea of a criminal justice system, are a theocracy and fund terrorism. What else do they need to do before we decide to stop tolerating their shit?

The United States is not exceptional, The United States is not special, The United States is not right, The united States is not the world police, we do not own the world, we do not parent the world and we do not have moral authority over the world. We abuse and objectify women, immigrants and minorities as a matter of course. At the least and on a good day we pay them less money for the same work. We have a cave man's idea of a criminal justice system, ask any 6 year old who has been handcuffed for a spit ball. The right in this country (as if there were such a thing as a left in this country) is very vigorously and rigorously pursuing the notion that we are and should be a theocracy and should move to a more theocratic society. If we continue to think and behave as if we are special and as if we do not have to respect the sovereignty of others then there is absolutely no reason why they should respect our sovereignty or why we should expect them to.

It is generally/academically accepted that there are three (3) circumstances when the US/UN may and/or should intervene in the activities of another nation (tangentially, these are all things the US is guilty of) :
1. A nation is actively pursuing or using weapons of mass destruction
2. A nation is actively invading other nations
3. A nation is actively attacking the US or our allies or interests

They had to be twerking (1)

o'reor (581921) | 1 year,11 days | (#45090865)

or Harlem-shaking.

10 years for violating the words of the prophet (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,11 days | (#45090909)

and 2000 lashes because this particular dude had no business strutting his "stuff" in a porn video

US justice (5, Insightful)

Hatta (162192) | 1 year,11 days | (#45090911)

10 years for growing the wrong plant.

Re:US justice (1)

justthinkit (954982) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091015)

Yes, growing what George Washington grew is now highly illegal. Except in the two states where it is now legal. And other states where self-medication with said herb is legal. But in the rest you get more punishment than rapists and murderers. Oh, please won't we think of the children?!

Re:US justice (2)

SuricouRaven (1897204) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091795)

The two states where it is now legal so long as you don't grow enough to draw the attention of the FBI.

Re:US justice (1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,11 days | (#45091023)

Don't forget about losing your home as well.

Re:US justice (1)

Conspiracy_Of_Doves (236787) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091319)

Even if someone else sells it on your property and you don't even know that it's happening.

FTW! (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,11 days | (#45090927)

Saudi Arabia is an absolute monarchy,[69] although, according to the Basic Law of Saudi Arabia adopted by royal decree in 1992, the king must comply with Sharia (that is, Islamic law) and the Quran. The Quran and the Sunnah (the traditions of Muhammad) are declared to be the country's constitution,

wikipedia [wikipedia.org]

Monarchy + theocracy FTW! So who's up for making the USA a christian country? What could possibly go wrong?

Re:FTW! (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,11 days | (#45091091)

So who's up for making the USA a christian country?

If the US were a Christian country, there would be 535 Ron Pauls in Congress and 9 Andrew Napolitanos on the Supreme Court. So yeah, I'm up for making the USA a Christian country.

Re:FTW! (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,11 days | (#45091661)

Monarchy + theocracy FTW! So who's up for making the USA a christian country? What could possibly go wrong?

Ooh.. I can see it already.. they wouldn't know what hit them..

Pope Francis [wikipedia.org] for Supreme Religious Leader of the U.S.A! Yay!

Let's watch him re-enact what Jesus did to the money-lenders in the temple, but this time televize it, with Pope F. in Washington DC's lobbying industry area, wielding a few cilices tied together!

Hmm. think I'll click the "anonymous coward" button..

seems harsh for even saudil. (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,11 days | (#45090935)

Having lived in Saudi everything is very restricted in society. It seems very harsh however.

Compare this to the sentence for killing a girl... (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,11 days | (#45090999)

10 years and 2000 lashes for dancing naked on film...
8 years and 600 lashes for torturing and killing one's own daughter... [bbc.co.uk]

Compare this to the sentence for killing an unborn (-1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,11 days | (#45091279)

Perfectly legal as long as it was unborn and the mother wanted it killed.

Re:Compare this to the sentence for killing a girl (1)

ameen.ross (2498000) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091445)

Interesting that you brought that up. While I'm very much against the "justice" system in Saudi Arabia, the case of that guy was blown out of proportion. According to this site [callingchristians.com] he is/was a drug addict (I wonder what inspired him to do drugs), and he never was a scholar.

In any case, if he is found guilty he should receive the death sentence in an Islamic criminal justice system. As for this case, I'm not familiar with it, but what I do know is that prison sentences are rather rare in Islamic criminal justice. And FWIW, I don't see any justification for such a punishment at all.

Not much different here. (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,11 days | (#45091031)

Meanwhile, an American was sentenced to 10 years in prison for taking a few dried blossoms out of a bag and smoking them in a pipe. "It's a gateway to the collapse of society," a prosecutor said. "We wish the judge had imposed a longer jail sentence as a deterrent."

It could have been a lot worse (4, Insightful)

themushroom (197365) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091063)

It could have been a woman with her face uncovered. Or a woman, period, driving the car naked. The sentence would be death by stoning and/or beheading.

Re:It could have been a lot worse (-1)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,11 days | (#45091525)

If a woman (period) is driving a car naked, there is some legitimate cause for concern. Hopefully she is at least wearing tampons or something.

It's a real pain getting blood out of fabric seats.

Shame on you USA (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,11 days | (#45091097)

Yet they are the most valuable allies of yours in the peninsula... shame on you USA.

You Would Demand The Same (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,11 days | (#45091183)

You would demand the same thing if you saw a video of me dancing naked on my rooftop.

With or without CowboyNeal.

Totally Appropriate (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,11 days | (#45091255)

Naked dancing objectifies the dancers. We have to put a stop to it now, before a generation grows up thinking hairy Arabs are just playthings that dance for their pleasure. That's why I too support the Social Justice movement.

He Should've Worn a Veil (0)

Anonymous Coward | 1 year,11 days | (#45091323)

He deserves it 'cause he was stupid. He should've worn a veil. Then nobody could recognize him AND he'd be obeying Islamic law ;-)

I liked their previous videos... (1)

Lumpy (12016) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091353)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqJDuZIcQ34 [youtube.com]

Much better production values, and better acting.

Yes the link is Safe for work.

Bad luck (1)

GeekWithAKnife (2717871) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091395)


If he would have been forcing himself on a woman he would have probably gotten off the hook and she'd be divorced and punished.

What have we learned here? life is not fair, people are cruel and most of the world is still run by primitives.

Human rights. (5, Insightful)

Delusion_ (56114) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091479)

Human rights are not judged according to cultural relativism. Sharia law is a violation of human rights, regardless of the religion of the victim.

Re:Human rights. (1)

SuricouRaven (1897204) | 1 year,11 days | (#45091823)

Actually, they are. You can assert all you want that your concept of human rights is 'higher' than everyone else, but you can still only justify that by your own culture.

Morality is like money: It exists, but only because people believe it exists. The belief creates it as a system of rules, even though there is no physical reality to the concept.

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