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The Year's Dumbest Moments in Tech

timothy posted about 10 months ago | from the you-mean-outside-my-house-right? dept.

Bug 96

harrymcc writes "Over at TIME.com, I rounded up the year's dumbest moments in technology. Yes, the launch of Healthcare.gov is included, as are Edward Snowden's revelations. But so are a bunch of people embarrassing themselves on Twitter, both BlackBerry and Lenovo hiring celebrities to (supposedly) design products, the release of glitchy products ranging from OS X 10.9 Mavericks to the new Yahoo Mail, and much more." I can't think of anything dumber than the NSA's claims that metadata isn't data.

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Mavericks was glitchy? (5, Insightful)

mveloso (325617) | about 10 months ago | (#45833621)

Seems fine to me. You must have mistaken it for iOS 7.

Re:Mavericks was glitchy? (4, Interesting)

redmid17 (1217076) | about 10 months ago | (#45833637)

Came here to say this. Haven't had a peep of any issues, and it's made my laptops perform better (battery, wifi) in a few ways. Definitely nothing negative about it from my POV.

Re:Mavericks was glitchy? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45834097)

No doubt Mavericks improves upon at least a few things, but there are definite problems with it. I hit the ARP issue (http://www.macstadium.com/blog/osx-10-9-mavericks-bugs/), which made the application I was using (VMWare View) unusable.

Re:Mavericks was glitchy? (1)

Plumpaquatsch (2701653) | about 10 months ago | (#45885797)

No doubt Mavericks improves upon at least a few things, but there are definite problems with it. I hit the ARP issue (http://www.macstadium.com/blog/osx-10-9-mavericks-bugs/), which made the application I was using (VMWare View) unusable.

So Apple's "bug" is to do what others have been doing for ages? Take this 8 year old bug report [novell.com] - and weep for the bug fix is actually what Apple supposedly does wrong now.

If a dynamic ARP entry expires at the Cisco router, the router will not broadcast its ARP request again, but, for efficiency purposes, it will unicast the ARP request to the Ethernet address mapped to the IP address in the expiring ARP entry. When this Ethernet address is of a secondary interface in the Load Balancing interface group of the Netware host, the Netware host will not respond to the ARP request. This behaviour of the NetWare ARP implementation is not consistent with the standard (see ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/std/std37.txt [rfc-editor.org] ), but, if it would reply, the Cisco router would always forward IP datagrams to the same interface, which defeats the purpose of inbound Load Balancing.

fix
CISCO IOS version 12.1.20 will delete the former dynamic ARP entry and broadcast the ARP request after it timed out on waiting for the reply to the unicasted ARP request.

Re:Mavericks was glitchy? (0)

Camshaft_90 (908670) | about 10 months ago | (#45834299)

The only issue I've had with Mavericks is the Finder leaking memory with a few spin locks during copy and paste. Not a problem unless your a /. bugger or an M$ shill.

Wha? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45836589)

But if you were a MS Shill you would be shouting your head off, at MS, over the twirlly icon? No? Right.

Re:Mavericks was glitchy? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45836857)

Well, your anecdotal evidence clearly proves that there aren't actually any issues with it at all. Pack it up, guys.

iCloud requirement? (1)

antdude (79039) | about 10 months ago | (#45839285)

What about iCloud requirement? That pissed a lot of people off like myself. We don't want to use the darn cloud. There's no more local USB synchronization with Mavericks and probably for now on. :(

Re:iCloud requirement? (1)

redmid17 (1217076) | about 10 months ago | (#45840767)

I haven't had to use the iCloud for anything. I don't have an iPhone. That would piss me off if I did though.

Re:iCloud requirement? (1)

antdude (79039) | about 10 months ago | (#45840815)

Ah lucky you. Yeah, any iOS devices with Mavericks. :(

Re:Mavericks was glitchy? (1)

sribe (304414) | about 10 months ago | (#45833807)

Seems fine to me. You must have mistaken it for iOS 7.

TFA refers to Apple's fuck-up with Mail.app gmail.

Re:Mavericks was glitchy? (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45833979)

Mavericks is glitchy.

It broke a lot of things in the Adobe suites that still haven't been fixed (yeah, I know this is partly Adobe's fault- but the backwards compatibility with Mavericks kinda stinks, especially for a closed platform). It introduced a lot of bugs relating to App Nap and the new memory compression, both of which are unfortunately opt-out rather then opt-in (as they should have been). There's still issues with ColorSync (going back to 10.7), which they kinda improved but also messed up with the way ICNS (icon) files are rendered (which now appear over saturated and darker then they should). Likewise, file labelling was replaced with that abomination called "Tags", which is such a horrible hap-hazard hack on top of Spotlight and the Finder that I'm surprised they even released it.

I'm sure a lot of this stuff will be resolved in the next version or two, but the unfortunate issue with Apple these days is that their operating systems are in a perpetual state of "almost working" and "not quite there yet". By the time you get 10.x.4 or 10.x.5, they're already working on the next major version that comes with it's own useless features that nobody wants or needs, and the existing features are basically abandoned and left to stagnate.

IMHO; their yearly release cycle is the worst thing to happen to OS X in a long time, and the effects of that are starting to become apparent in operating systems like Mavericks. It will only get worse until they decide enough is enough, and the next version will come when it's done (remember the days of10.6? We got all the way up to 10.6.8, and it was a damned fine OS as a result).

Re:Mavericks was glitchy? (2, Insightful)

phantomfive (622387) | about 10 months ago | (#45835327)

I'm sure a lot of this stuff will be resolved in the next version or two

That's optimistic....as you mention, Apple has a habit of abandoning features that work perfectly well, leaving them to stagnate. They also seem actively hostile to backwards compatibility for some reason.

Re:Mavericks was glitchy? (1)

something_wicked_thi (918168) | about 10 months ago | (#45835767)

Speaking of Adobe, how is the Adobe user account leak not on this list? Storing passwords encrypted rather than salted and hashed, using single-DES encryption rather than 3DES, using ECB instead of CBC, and storing the password hints in plain text? How in the seven hells did that not make this list when there's bullshit like the Mavericks Mail bug in here?

Re:Mavericks was glitchy? (1)

something_wicked_thi (918168) | about 9 months ago | (#45928677)

Turns out they did use 3DES, not 1DES. Still...

Re:Mavericks was glitchy? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45836035)

The first of those is probably by design, on Adobe's part. New OSX releases have routinely been incompatible with Adobe products, at least as far back as 10.5. And Adobe's response has routinely been "tough, give us more money for a new version". After the first couple of times, they probably started doing it deliberately.

Re:Mavericks was glitchy? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45834223)

You don't have more than one monitor and have never tried the much vaunted multi-monitor "support" then, I take it?

Re:Mavericks was glitchy? (2)

beckett (27524) | about 10 months ago | (#45834921)

using it right now. works great. dual menu bars are useful. the screens operate independently, and have their own virtual spaces.

The hands down winner (4, Informative)

dugancent (2616577) | about 10 months ago | (#45833623)

Re:The hands down winner (1, Flamebait)

mark-t (151149) | about 10 months ago | (#45833767)

How is wearable computing dumb?

Re:The hands down winner (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45833927)

Wow. Trying to divert attention from the product by acting like the OP is condemning the entire concept? Is that all you have to bring to the table?

Re:The hands down winner (1)

mark-t (151149) | about 10 months ago | (#45833973)

I genuinely fail to see how google glass is any dumber, at its core, than the concept of wearable computing itself.

Re:The hands down winner (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45834015)

I genuinely fail

That's obvious.

Re:The hands down winner (0)

mark-t (151149) | about 10 months ago | (#45835907)

If it were obvious, then your statement is equally obvious... which makes your comment at best equivalent to a vacuous statement. Regardless, it's unhelpful... although I'm sure that's obvious too.

Re:The hands down winner (5, Insightful)

Taco Cowboy (5327) | about 10 months ago | (#45833819)

Apparently your hands are not placed down enough.

The REAL hands down winner:

http://beta.slashdot.org/ [slashdot.org]

Re:The hands down winner (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45834095)

Yup, the mobile version, which requires you to click to finish reading the summary. Brilliant.

Re:The hands down winner (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45834149)

not only for mobile, sometimes I'm being directed to that overpadded pile of shit they call beta.slashdot.org despite my best efforts

Re:The hands down winner (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45835557)

I always get directed to beta. How do I stop it?

Re:The hands down winner (1)

ColdWetDog (752185) | about 10 months ago | (#45835697)

I always get directed to beta. How do I stop it?

Log on to Facebook.

Re:The hands down winner (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45844305)

Clear your cookies and go to www.slashdot.org again (and repeat until you're no longer redirected to beta).

Re:The hands down winner (1)

jez9999 (618189) | about 10 months ago | (#45836099)

Is there a Stylish style somewhere to get rid of that width restriction? I could've sword I hacked one up myself but annoyingly I don't seem to have uploaded it to userstyles.org.

Re:The hands down winner (0, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45833861)

The dumbest moment in tech for 2014 will be when Slashdot switches over to Slashdot Beta.

Re:The hands down winner (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45834999)

Funny how this gets a -1, but sibling gets a +5 Insightful for saying the same thing.

Re:The hands down winner (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45835027)

Because the post is redundant, maybe?

Re:The hands down winner (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45835371)

One claims beta is worst of 2013, and the other claims beta will be the worst of 2014.

Snowden was a dumb moment in tech? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45833647)

OS 10.9 was dumb?

I'll tell you a dumb moment in tech: the moment you published your dumb article, you dummy.

Re:Snowden was a dumb moment in tech? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45833749)

Oh boy, the article made a comment about 10.9's email app. (sarcasm)The entire thing must be wrong as everyone knows everything apple does is perfect (/sarcasm)

Re: Snowden was a dumb moment in tech? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45833777)

Wrong brackets!

Re: Snowden was a dumb moment in tech? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45833791)

Oops. Now that was a dumb moment in tech. Slashdot apparently removes angle brackets

Re: Snowden was a dumb moment in tech? (0)

Scott Ragen (3378093) | about 10 months ago | (#45833873)

That's because posts are done in <html>

Re: Snowden was a dumb moment in tech? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45833953)

Get the fuck out of here with your Google+ bullshit, n00b.

Re: Snowden was a dumb moment in tech? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45833963)

Posting Anonymously. Very brave, asshole.

Re: Snowden was a dumb moment in tech? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45834107)

disregard that; I suck cock

Re: Snowden was a dumb moment in tech? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45834321)

Disregard that, the check from Google is late.

Re: Snowden was a dumb moment in tech? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45834203)

disregard that, I suck cock.

Re: Snowden was a dumb moment in tech? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45834099)

Those aren't brackets, you dimwit. They're chevrons (or greater-/less-than for those fond of extra syllables). Brackets are square. Braces are squiggly. Parentheses are round.

Re: Snowden was a dumb moment in tech? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45834101)

Try it the way you think it should be done.. as others posted slashdot is done in html so they vanish.

Re: Snowden was a dumb moment in tech? (1)

XanC (644172) | about 10 months ago | (#45835261)

<sarcasm>The entire thing must be wrong as everyone knows everything apple does is perfect</sarcasm>

Re:Snowden was a dumb moment in tech? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45834197)

Yes, because either apple is perfect or it is stupid. You can't simply say that a bug in an OS doesn't make it 'dumb'.

GTFO you Winlingoogtel dick-sucker.

Re:Snowden was a dumb moment in tech? (5, Insightful)

SpaceManFlip (2720507) | about 10 months ago | (#45833757)

Snowden is the man. He accomplished what many previous whistleblowers attempted who were told "you don't have any proof, shut up." The shills who froth and scream traitor are on the side of evil, or they simply don't see that others had tried and failed and he did what he had to to expose the truth that needed exposing.

Big nerd with big balls, Snowden.

Re:Snowden was a dumb moment in tech? (-1, Troll)

Pumpkin Tuna (1033058) | about 10 months ago | (#45833901)

Agreed that his infodump was for the good. But he still acted as a traitor by running to China and Russia. If he had "big balls," he would have stayed here and faced the music. I would be standing outside the prison where they held him screaming for his release. Now, there's no telling what he gave up to some real enemies of freedom.

Re:Snowden was a dumb moment in tech? (2)

drinkypoo (153816) | about 10 months ago | (#45833959)

If he had "big balls," he would have stayed here and faced the music

You fail to understand civil disobedience. It means breaking an unjust law and risking facing the consequences. It doesn't mean sitting around waiting to get thrown in PMITA prison or whisked off to gitmo.

Re:Snowden was a dumb moment in tech? (-1, Troll)

Pumpkin Tuna (1033058) | about 10 months ago | (#45834035)

You really think they would have thrown him in Gitmo if he had released the docs and invited reporters to park outside his house and come in to hang out and play x-box or something? What he did was to intentionally NOT face the consequences. Instead, he took an archive of sensitive data and took it straight to our two biggest international rivals. If you don't think he's dancing on Putin's strings saying exactly what Putin wants him to say, you are naive.

Re:Snowden was a dumb moment in tech? (3, Insightful)

hairyfeet (841228) | about 10 months ago | (#45834365)

Ask Assange, the answer is YES. If you truly believe that simply having a press that is owned by the government BTW, will save your ass? I have a bridge you might be interested in. Again look at Assange where the story was instantly changed to "He's a rapist! Terrorist!"instead of all the evidence that the government supported scum, even bailing out a PMC that sold children as fucktoys to seal arms deals.

If either Snowden or Assange EVAR lave their little protected spaces they wil be given rendition rides so fast it'll make your had swim, and the entire time our whored out pres will cheer and say how wonderful big mommy is for doing it.

Re:Snowden was a dumb moment in tech? (4, Insightful)

TrollstonButterbeans (2914995) | about 10 months ago | (#45834621)

"What he did was to intentionally NOT face the consequences."

The consequences decided by who? An out-of-control government where the court system has effectively ruled time-again that government has no limits?

Yes, he would be detained without trial and rights --- just like what Manning is enduring. Does Manning have any free speech rights? No.

Okay. Your argument just lost and lost hard.

Don't judge me, I'm just the messenger.

Re:Snowden was a dumb moment in tech? (1, Troll)

Solandri (704621) | about 10 months ago | (#45835583)

Do not compare Manning to Snowden. Manning was a fool and most likely a traitor. He threw out the baby with the bathwater. Just because some of what he leaked turned out to have been leak-worthy does not justify leaking everything he could get his hands on. If you save a dozen people from a burning building but in the process doom a hundred to die, you are still culpable for the deaths of the hundred. He is correctly incarcerated and his rights justifiably curtailed.

Snowden has been careful to leak only what he thinks was unconstitutional. I disagree with some of this definitions of what's unconstitutional, but I respect that he's trying to leak only the materials which are leak-worthy.

Re:Snowden was a dumb moment in tech? (2)

drinkypoo (153816) | about 10 months ago | (#45836037)

Snowden has been careful to leak only what he thinks was unconstitutional. I disagree with some of this definitions of what's unconstitutional, but I respect that he's trying to leak only the materials which are leak-worthy.

Snowden has by his own words dumped the full load on the news media. Now he's simply helping to guide discussion, and less of that lately. In fact, he's done nothing to leak only the leak-only materials. That's all the media. He more carefully chose his media outlets than Manning, that is all. They both did the same thing, and you're lauding one and decrying the other. Our own government has said that Manning's releases have not cost lives. What the public has learned from Manning, our enemies already knew. Only we did not.

Re:Snowden was a dumb moment in tech? (2)

whoever57 (658626) | about 10 months ago | (#45835101)

You really think they would have thrown him in Gitmo if he had released the docs and invited reporters to park outside his house and come in to hang out and play x-box or something?

Hell, Yes!

I think that you are naiive if you think that we would have seen all the revelations if the USA had been able to reach Snowdon?

Re:Snowden was a dumb moment in tech? (4, Insightful)

amRadioHed (463061) | about 10 months ago | (#45834093)

Actually quite often sitting around waiting to be arrested is exactly the point of civil disobedience. You can't really show the injustice of a bad law without demonstrating the consequences of the law. However this doesn't apply to Snowden. He wasn't trying to demonstrate that the laws surrounding classified data are wrong, he was trying to show that the activities the data documented were wrong so really there would be no point in letting himself get arrested. It wouldn't have furthered his cause in any way.

Re:Snowden was a dumb moment in tech? (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | about 10 months ago | (#45836011)

Actually quite often sitting around waiting to be arrested is exactly the point of civil disobedience.

You really have no idea what you are talking about [wikipedia.org] , and therefore should stop. Simply stop. Submit to arrest is not the same as volunteer to be arrested. If the authorities arrest you, you permit them, rather than say shooting at them. That's what makes it civil. The word isn't "civic".

Re:Snowden was a dumb moment in tech? (2)

Shavano (2541114) | about 10 months ago | (#45834219)

It depends on how you can do the most good. I don't think running did his message any good. He would be in a better position to talk about how he loves his country and how this is for the good of it if he were in his country and not overseas where people have to wonder what/how much he gave to the Russians and the Chinese that may not have hit the presses.

Re:Snowden was a dumb moment in tech? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45834507)

It depends on how you can do the most good. I don't think running did his message any good. He would be in a better position to talk about how he loves his country and how this is for the good of it if he were in his country and not overseas where people have to wonder what/how much he gave to the Russians and the Chinese that may not have hit the presses.

Yes, because everyone in Gitmo is free to give as many press conferences as they want.

Re:Snowden was a dumb moment in tech? (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | about 10 months ago | (#45836043)

He would be in a better position to talk about how he loves his country and how this is for the good of it if he were in his country

...being tortured and denied his supposedly unalienable rights. Yeah, what a great idea! You, sir, are an enemy of freedom. You would torture those who tell us the truth. Suggesting that they should be in the hands of the US amounts to the same thing. You're not still believing the USA's propaganda about itself, are you? I guess we should go back to leaflet bombing since the world's citizens are so gullible.

Re:Snowden was a dumb moment in tech? (2, Insightful)

YukariHirai (2674609) | about 10 months ago | (#45834233)

Now, there's no telling what he gave up to some real enemies of freedom.

From my point of view (not living in any of the three countries), there's no meaningful difference between China, Russia and the USA in terms of how much of an enemy of freedom they are. Oh, the US says they're all about freedom, but in practice they're about as bad as the others.

Re:Snowden was a dumb moment in tech? (1)

bayankaran (446245) | about 10 months ago | (#45834989)

Spot on. They are all bad versions of each other. They don't realize that, that's all.

Re:Snowden was a dumb moment in tech? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45834301)

But he still acted as a traitor by running to China and Russia.

That's your opinion ( you silly little cunt you ) and certainly not a fact. Snowden is no more a traitor
than anyone who has won the Medal of Honor. Snowden loved his country enough to
seriously fuck up his own life for the sake of that love. You don't know what a traitor
is if you think Snowden is a traitor.

In any case, these days, only a naive fool believes that the US government deserves
allegiance from its citizens.

A realist knows that the US is run by corrupt scum who have no allegiance to anything
but retaining their power. And THAT deserves the opposite of allegiance.

Let's get real. The various "wars" the US is involved in are wars of aggression and are not
being conducted to defend the American people. Only a person who doesn't understand
what is really going on believes that the US has any moral justification for being in most of
the countries it is messing around in militarily.

Snowden owes allegiance to Snowden. Snowden did the world and the American people a
considerable service, for which he may never be rewarded but instead may face a lifetime
of exile. He knew that going into the situation, and anyone who doesn't understand that
took very real courage doesn't begin to know what courage is.

/

Re:Snowden was a dumb moment in tech? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45834409)

Well said. Mod parent up.

Re:Snowden was a dumb moment in tech? (1)

Tablizer (95088) | about 10 months ago | (#45835463)

Snowden is the man. He accomplished what many previous whistleblowers attempted who were told "you don't have any proof, shut up."

You don't have any proof of this. Shut up!

Re:Snowden was a dumb moment in tech? (1)

dyingtolive (1393037) | about 10 months ago | (#45834475)

I'm still blown away that Hassleton didn't make the list.

Re:Snowden was a dumb moment in tech? (1)

XxtraLarGe (551297) | about 10 months ago | (#45835355)

I'm still blown away that Hassleton didn't make the list.

What's that? Google search doesn't turn up anything useful...

Re:Snowden was a dumb moment in tech? (1)

dyingtolive (1393037) | about 10 months ago | (#45837247)

Bennett Hassleton.

Windows 8 (4, Funny)

SpaceManFlip (2720507) | about 10 months ago | (#45833733)

Surely the list must include the "Angry Fruit Salad" operating system that sucks worse than anything previously offered?

Yeah, I bought it cheap and I tried it. $40 and it sits unused currently because even after installing Classic Shell and doing a lot of unpaid work to fix what they broke, I still hate it.

Re:Windows 8 (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45834307)

Surely the list must include the "Angry Fruit Salad" operating system that sucks worse than anything previously offered?

He already addressed Mac OS X.

Re:Windows 8 (2)

fermion (181285) | about 10 months ago | (#45834607)

It seems to me that the list is really 'products I don't like'. Certainly the dumbest idea of the year was MS WIndows 8, and Surface, write down of nearly 1 billion.

As far as the lack of professionalism in the IT sector, I worked in various professional enterprises. Some allow men to do whatever they want. Others have higher standards and require men to think. Say that men cannot think is silly. Men can think before they say or do stupid things. The trick is to fire the incompetent men who refuse to do so.

XBox is not a loser like surface, and trying to monetize Xbox is not dumb. MS responded to the issue.

The internship was stupid, but so are half the movies that get made.

The new Apple mail does suck. Where have you been? Every release Apple screws up one or two of the applications. Who is using google mail anyway? Google is the one company with a direct high speed link to the NSA, if a not NSA mining servers directly in their facility. The must have done something to rate the cheap gas [marketwatch.com] .

Re:Windows 8 (1)

taxman_10m (41083) | about 10 months ago | (#45834947)

I'd put releasing the XBone with Kinect on a list. It'll be out of the box by April is my guess.

Re:Windows 8 (3, Insightful)

tlhIngan (30335) | about 10 months ago | (#45835183)

I'd put releasing the XBone with Kinect on a list. It'll be out of the box by April is my guess.

I don't think it's a bad plan at all - because developers know they can rely on the user to have a Kinect, even if it's unplugged. So they can assume stuff like voice recognition and even body motion because it's in the box.

If it's unplugged, well, the devs will simulate it some other way - even it requires going through a million menus to do what would've taken 2 seconds by voice.

Now, if Microsoft didn't put it in the box, you're looking at what's happening with Sony's Move - sure you save a tiny bit of money, but now you've just relegated it to niche status. Just a toy that some people may have, and this early in the game, pretty much just good for putting sex shows online on Twitch.

The end effect is "enhanced with Kinect" is probably standard with Xbone, while the PS4 gets some lame ass implementation of what Kinect does. After all, the PS4 camera lets you do face recognition login and a modicum of voice commands that were put in as an afterthought to compete.

Hell, Sony's wasted money on the PS4 controller by adding in the parts for the Move when most users won't have it - every controller has a (2D - only X-Y positioning) Move emitter, but not every PS4 has a camera. Sure RGB LEDs are cheap, but it's still an extra expense. Especially as it's 2D only - for 3D positioning you need a regular Move controller with the ball as the camera can't see depth with the controller's built-in Move. (And really, who puts in 720p cameras? Yes, the PS4 cameras are 720p stereo).

Sony probably removed the cameras at the last minute just to undercut Microsoft. Not necessarily a good or bad idea - the Xbox360 was around $400-500 at launch, the PS3 was way out there, and the Wii was $250. When the prices tightened down a couple of years alter, it was $200, $300 and $400 and the PS3 took off.

The price these days is not an issue - $200, $400, $500, it's not a huge range. Hell, a PS4 + Camera is only $40 cheaper.

No, Microsoft won't be taking it out of the box. Especially as the first round of new games since release would be out assuming Kinect.

Re:Windows 8 (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45835515)

It seems to me that the list is really 'products I don't like'. Certainly the dumbest idea of the year was MS WIndows 8, and Surface, write down of nearly 1 billion.

The irony.

Re:Windows 8 (2)

the_humeister (922869) | about 10 months ago | (#45834633)

I like Windows 8, and it's better with Classic Shell. But your issues with Windows 8 don't really belong here since Windows 8 came out in August, 2012. Of course back then I upgraded from Windows 7 Home premium to Windows 8 Professional for $15 for each of my two computers. I wouldn't have liked it as much if I had to pay more.

Re:Windows 8 (1)

Barbarian (9467) | about 10 months ago | (#45834941)

The other bad part with this crappy OS is losing your locense to the previous version when you do an upgrade.

Re:Windows 8 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45835615)

You're an idiot. The Windows 8 "upgrade" is a full installation and you don't have to install it over your previous version of Windows. I have been running a dual boot machine with Windows 7 and 8 for a year and a half with no troubles. It doesn't usurp the original license.

hahahahahal0lz!!!!11! (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45833871)

The NSA is spying on us all... and their powerpoint slides are ugly! HAHAAAHAAH!!!1!one!!11

Look - I'm not going to try and make the argument that we should all stop what we're doing and go on humor strikes until they shut down the NSA. But seriously, if you're so desperate for column inches that you feel the need to spin the Snowden affair as "dumb", then you really need to ask yourself whether you're Part of the Problem.

Tip for next time: be funnier.

Re:hahahahahal0lz!!!!11! (1)

ATMAvatar (648864) | about 10 months ago | (#45834431)

The point is that the NSA has apparently become rather adept at snooping on the activities of everyone in the world... except those who work for the NSA. It perhaps gives a bit too much credit towards the effectiveness of investigation into all the data that's collected in assuming that had it turned its gaze inward, Snowden might not have been able to sneak away with a treasure trove of embarrassing and classified documents. The awful powerpoint slides was just an aside tacked onto the end.

systemd (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45834021)

systemd is hands down the most idiotic development in tech, and will continue to be for as long as that atrocity is inflicted upon the Linux world, whether it is 2013, 2015, or 2099.

Re:systemd (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45834173)

care to explain why?

Re:systemd (1)

Jamie Ian Macgregor (3389757) | about 10 months ago | (#45852627)

Yeah, I'm a linux user but haven't got to the depths of these systemd issues people are crying about all the time, some factual information would go a long way.

Please stop posting articles about healthcare.gov (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45834047)

Every time you do so, you support the Republican's in taking healthcare from minorities.

"Worst dressed" (1)

nadaou (535365) | about 10 months ago | (#45834063)

As this is a more or less duplicate top-10 style list to the one posted yesterday, among many other "biggest foul ups" and "worst dressed" articles, the floor is open for meta-discussion.

I get that laughing at others' misfortune and fuckups makes sad people feel better about themselves and sells lots of glossy magazines, but you've got to admit it's all a bit depressing that we can't get past the psychology of school yard bullies and instead have at least one in five of these top 10 lists be about the greatest medical, quantum physics, and space exploration breakthroughs of the previous year and what's on the horizon for the next.

Celebrate good times, come on.

Mavericks deprecated iOS device sync, goddamnit. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45834209)

Mavericks removed the ability to perform a complete local sync
of an iOS device.

This leaves the Mavericks user with two choices :

1) do without the sync
2) sync via iCloud

Well, some of us aren't going to use iCloud, ever.

I wrote Tim Cook about this and of course that bean-counter did not reply.

I won't be buying any more Apple hardware as a direct result of the removal
of local sync. You see, I don't want to send my personal private info
into Apple's cloud. Yes, I know that if the spooks want my info they can
probably get it, but that does NOT mean I want to make it easy for them.

And now here's a little note for Mr. Tim Cook :

The smart way to do things is to ADD functionality but not remove functionality, Tim.
People like to have options, especially when those options "just worked". People
also don't fucking like to have options removed without NOTICE, Tim, you fucking
dweeb. Apple is already going downhill under your leadership, Tim, and I hope you
are going to be happy with your place in the history books as the idiot who lead
the company into the abyss.

I see where Apple is heading and I am not going to be on that ride.

And thanks for not answering my email, Tim ... Fuck You.

.

.

Re: Mavericks deprecated iOS device sync, goddamni (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45834389)

Perhaps he would have responded if you'd been a little more polite. I think referring to him a 'Mr Cook' rather than 'Tim' may have made all the difference here.

Re: Mavericks deprecated iOS device sync, goddamni (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45843377)

Perhaps he would have responded if you'd been a little more polite. I think referring to him a 'Mr Cook' rather than 'Tim' may have made all the difference here.

I wrote the email. The email I wrote was exceedingly polite.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

Of course that doesn't stop an idiot like you.

***

No Slashdot Beta? (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45834599)

I'm disappointed that /.'s beta didn't make the list.

Re:No Slashdot Beta? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45835541)

I'm not: Slashdot is too unimportant.

An Epidemic of Dumbness (1)

almechist (1366403) | about 10 months ago | (#45838771)

Doesn’t it seem like there’s been an epidemic lately of large, established and respectable tech companies rolling out “new” products (actually just unneeded and unwanted updates of existing products, but that‘s how it goes these days) that just scream FAIL!!! loudly and clearly to anyone and everyone remotely resembling the actual end users who will eventually have to work with the final badly flawed product? I mean, honestly, Windows 8, how the hell could MS not have known that piece of steaming crud was going to be absolutely despised by the overwhelming majority of users?? Or look at Yahoo’s forced rollout of their new and “improved” mail system, another supposed upgrade that no one ever asked for. It was met with universal hatred even when it functioned as designed, which it seldom did at first because, unbelievably, the software apparently never underwent basic beta testing. How does shit like this keep happening? I mean, compared to those turkeys, even the dysfunctional Healthcare.gov website rollout seems in retrospect predictable and almost routine. How is it possible, in this day and age, for there to be such an enormous disconnect between what people actually want, and what extravagantly overcompensated corporate executives think people want? What is wrong with the tech industry, or maybe even the capitalist system in general, that causes such blatant failures to keep getting approved and marketed to the consumer? Is this, as a commenter at one of the linked sites suggests, merely proof of the Peter Principle in action? Something is very wrong, surely, when such utter dumbness is continually manifested in an industry that is supposedly run by very, very smart people.

The seven deadly sins (1)

YoureGoingToHell (3452735) | about 10 months ago | (#45866849)

How is it possible, in this day and age, for there to be such an enormous disconnect between what people actually want, and what extravagantly overcompensated corporate executives think people want?

We have a society that is built of lies, selfishness, and greed. That is why it's inevitably destroying itself.

Yes, but what about meta-meta data? (1)

pigiron (104729) | about 10 months ago | (#45839007)

It's turtles all the way (up in this case.)

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