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How Edward Snowden's Actions Have Impacted Defense Contractors

timothy posted about 7 months ago | from the budget-suddenly-has-room-for-a-shredder dept.

Government 180

An anonymous reader writes "A new study sheds light on the attitudes of a very exclusive group of IT and security managers — those employed by U.S. defense contractors — at a time when national cybersecurity is under scrutiny. Most indicated that the Edward Snowden incident has changed their companies' cybersecurity practices: their employees now receive more cybersecurity awareness training, some have re-evaluated employee data access privileges, others have implemented stricter hiring practices. While defense contractors seem to have better security practices in place and are more transparent than many companies in the private sector, they are finding the current cyber threat onslaught just as difficult to deal with."

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Boycott (-1, Flamebait)

chebucto (992517) | about 7 months ago | (#46173319)

Please post this to new articles if it hasn't been posted yet.

On February 5, 2014, Slashdot announced through a javascript popup that they are starting to "move in to" the new Slashdot Beta design.

Slashdot Beta is a trend-following attempt to give Slashdot a fresh look, an approach that has led to less space for text and an abandonment of the traditional Slashdot look. Much worse than that, Slashdot Beta fundamentally breaks the classic Slashdot discussion and moderation system.

If you haven't seen Slashdot Beta already, open this [slashdot.org] in a new tab. After seeing that, click here [slashdot.org] to return to classic Slashdot.

We should boycott stories and only discuss the abomination that is Slashdot Beta until Dice abandons the project.
We should boycott slashdot entirely during the week of Feb 10 to Feb 17 as part of the wider slashcott [slashdot.org]

Moderators - only spend mod points on comments that discuss Beta
Commentors - only discuss Beta
http://slashdot.org/recent [slashdot.org] - Vote up the Fuck Beta stories

Keep this up for a few days and we may finally get the PHBs attention.

Captcha: fuckbeta

http://developers.slashdot.org... [slashdot.org]
http://developers.slashdot.org... [slashdot.org]
http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... [slashdot.org]
http://science.slashdot.org/co... [slashdot.org]

Re:Boycott (5, Insightful)

captchya (3527985) | about 7 months ago | (#46173359)

Fuck Beta

Re:Boycott (5, Insightful)

Trimaxion (2933647) | about 7 months ago | (#46173811)

Plus Fucking Plus!

Re:Boycott (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46173893)

Jawbreaker style

Re:Boycott (5, Insightful)

TheNastyInThePasty (2382648) | about 7 months ago | (#46173379)

My advice to the peons working on Slashdot: find another job. The veracity with which this "upgrade" is being pushed displays a stubbornness that can only be attributed to MBAs with no idea of what Slashdot is about. The fact that the commenting system is such an afterthought in the Beta is as much evidence as I need that the people pushing this redesign never use this site.

I know you don't get to decide whether or not the Beta moves forward or which design gets used, but believe this: You WILL be blamed when it fails. You work for a corporation now and the higher ups with undoubtedly throw you under the bus when they have to explain to their bosses or shareholders why the website redesign failed. This failure is going to be associated with you and your teammates and it will set back any hopes you have of being promoted within the company. Take the advice of me and my fellow Slashdotters: Get out now.

The parallels are too obvious to ignore. (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46173601)

It's Obamadot.

Re:Boycott (3, Insightful)

Corbets (169101) | about 7 months ago | (#46173647)

The veracity with which this "upgrade" is being pushed displays a stubbornness that can only be attributed to MBAs with no idea of what Slashdot is about.

Right, because nerds have never been known to compulsively obsess over doing things their way regardless of what the user wants. I suggest that your stereotyping doesn't help; focus on the problem, not your hypothetical reasons.

Also, I'm not sure that "veracity" means what you think it means. But then, I'm a nerd with an MBA, so what do I know?

Re:Boycott (4, Interesting)

TheNastyInThePasty (2382648) | about 7 months ago | (#46173745)

Hah. You're right about the word veracity. I should have used arrogance or audacity.

You're also possibly right that the workers think they have created gold too. However, any project manager worth his salt would look at the reaction to the redesign and change the course of the work. The lowly nerd at the bottom of the totem pole might be stubborn enough to want to keep his way, but he has no power. The managers are the ones with the power to decide whether or not the beta moves forward. It is ultimately their fault but it's unlikely that they will shoulder the blame.

Re:Boycott (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46173689)

Where is a good place to go to? I will say that /. has some of the most intelligent people (who actually know what they are writing about) on any forum.

Reading Digg or Reddit... might as well post about things to /b/ since the same responses would be given.

Commentors (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46173707)

Comments and commentors don't generate revenues.

There's a reason why Digg revamped.

The Slashdot that you knew and loved is going to disappear. Slashdot doesn't make money. And things will change to make this company worthwhile, otherwise, you'll see the domain name sold off or turned into an online retailer for computer equipment or something.

Why is Slashdot not making money? Ad based revenue or lack thereof - and all of us with AdBlock. Making money off of ads only works for those selling ads - Facebook and Google for example. And Slashdot doesn't have the user information that Facebook has so pimping user info isn't an option.

That's just my MBA guess - and it's a guess because I have nothing to do with Slashdot, Dice, VA systems and any other company that has every owned or managed Slashdot; just experience with websites that try to pay the bills with advertisements and partner agreements. Although, there are exceptions: Fark.com.

tl;dr Bend over and take it because things are gonna change because the way things are don't cut it.

Contact Alice Hill (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46173403)

Complaining in the comments is not enough! This is the person responsible for beta [linkedin.com] . Contact her directly to lodge your complaints.

Since beta appears not to support links, here is the URL: http://www.linkedin.com/in/alicehill

Re:Contact Alice Hill (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46173525)

This is a person. She wakes up every morning, goes to work, and drinks her share of coffee. She had only so many hours a day to devote to community problems. She's got a boss and corporate leadership who set goals she must fulfill. And she probably has a personal life she'd like to lead too. Maybe even children who are definitely more important to her than the bitchfest going on at /.

WTF is wrong with you people? It's just a fucking web site.

Re:Contact Alice Hill (5, Insightful)

Kell Bengal (711123) | about 7 months ago | (#46173667)

The problem here is one of a corporation taking a community website and then systematically ignoring that community's input. We've seen it with the moves into business intelligence and the hell-or-highwater drive to beta. While a community website such as Slashdot is valuable to both its users and its owners, the relationship between the company and the community is asymmetrical.

There is relatively few effective mechanisms available to the community to have its will heard, short of simply leaving and never coming back (which defeats the point). Thus, concerned users are identifying the fulcrums around which this problem is revolving and applying leverage there to attempt to restore some balance between the goals of Dice and its user base.

While I agree that we should not be hassling private citizens outside their role as an employee, we are certainly at liberty to express our views and have them listened to. We're trying to save Slashdot's profitibilty, and by extension their employment, by ensuring that the website remains one that is attractive to its user base.

While the designer of the website is on the clock and responsible for the design and deployment of Beta, we are obliged to try to make them see that this is a terrible decision.

Re: Contact Alice Hill (2)

schlouse (36695) | about 7 months ago | (#46173731)

Further, this is not exactly complicated shit. It's a discussion web site for Christ's sake.

Re:Contact Alice Hill (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46173755)

And the same happened at Reddit. Look at the fiasco of /r/politics when it was discovered that the mods there were censoring entire publications from submission. They still do. The firestorm that erupted led to wailing and gnashing of teeth and a mass community exodus. But no mod or corporate changes. It's obnoxious, but no amount of community complaining changed corporate policies. Censorship remains, enforced by mods and set as policy by the ownership.

At least this isn't a censorship fight. Here, the owners just want to implement a design change. Which may or may not be of benefit in the long term.

Re:Contact Alice Hill (1)

evilRhino (638506) | about 7 months ago | (#46174233)

I think it's more analogous to new Digg than /r/politics. The awful Digg website design drove off users never to return. There are several other sub-Reddit that took the place of /r/politcs. Hell, we could even make a slashdot-esque sub-reddit.

Re:Contact Alice Hill (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46173749)

This is a person. She wakes up every morning, goes to work, and drinks her share of coffee. She had only so many hours a day to devote to community problems. She's got a boss and corporate leadership who set goals she must fulfill. And she probably has a personal life she'd like to lead too. Maybe even children who are definitely more important to her than the bitchfest going on at /.

You don't say ?
A real person with a real life ?

So, that's a good entry level to try to make things move...
We're not bitching anybody, we just need to be a bit demonstrative to real people.

Re:Contact Alice Hill (4, Insightful)

Krneki (1192201) | about 7 months ago | (#46173783)

With great powers comes great responsibilities.

Re:Contact Alice Hill (1)

LordFlower (606949) | about 7 months ago | (#46173909)

I agree.

Lets not get stupid with this

Re:Contact Alice Hill (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46174047)

WTF is wrong with you people? It was just a fucking web site.

FTFY

Re:Contact Alice Hill (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46174261)

Go ask Alice, I think she'll know

Re:Boycott (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46173419)

Ad block the beta

Re:Boycott (1)

davecb (6526) | about 7 months ago | (#46173445)

It's also hard to turn beta off, as that link was removed. Ah well, ^X-delete-cookies

Re:Boycott (1)

MiliusXP (861816) | about 7 months ago | (#46173449)

Slashdot 8.1

Re:Boycott (4, Interesting)

Arrogant-Bastard (141720) | about 7 months ago | (#46173529)

As one of the first users of this site (yes, I know my UID number, it's not my original one), I fully support this.

Moreover, IF the people running this site are so obstinate, stupid, and ignorant that they persist anyway: then the boycott needs to be permanent. We ALL need to leave. We need to teach a lesson, and if the only way that lesson can be communicated is over the bleak, abandoned corpse of slashdot, then that's how it has to be.

I could warn you of course, but you would not listen. I could kill you, but someone would take your place. So I do the only thing I can. I go."

Re:Boycott (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46173611)

We need to teach a lesson, and if the only way that lesson can be communicated is over the bleak, abandoned corpse of slashdot, then that's how it has to be.

Didn't Digg teach that lesson already? Where are those community members now? People point at Digg and tell the /. admins, "Look what happened to them!" Perhaps they should think inward and consider, Look what happened to that community.

For just as Digg's investors lost, so too did the community that used and supported the site. Which in no way excuses those who had abused their privilege rigging the Digg queue. But it does point out that the losses accrue to the users just as badly as do they to the owners.

Re:We ALL need to leave. (2)

DocSavage64109 (799754) | about 7 months ago | (#46174071)

The question is, where would we go? I suppose I'll at least be a bit more productive at work, if less informed.

Re:We ALL need to leave. (3, Insightful)

Pav (4298) | about 7 months ago | (#46174265)

That's it really... where would we go? Slashdot isn't the site it's the community. There has been OSS work on federated search, and federated social networking, but a federated discussion site with a decent moderation system would be nice right about now. Is it even a solvable problem?

Re:Boycott (1)

ZecretZquirrel (610310) | about 7 months ago | (#46173741)

And what exactly is the trend being followed here? The trend of Bad? What is next?

Re:Boycott (2)

Dale512 (1073668) | about 7 months ago | (#46173791)

Good grief that thing looked hideous. Sidebar information should never take up that much screen real estate. Then again, maybe they think the discussion is the sidebar.....

Re:Boycott (1)

Krneki (1192201) | about 7 months ago | (#46173835)

Also down-vote any story that is not related to Slashdot Beta.

Re:Boycott (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46173887)

Ditto!
Never bothered to look at the beta until I saw your link. Been coming to slashdot since 2000, never bothered to register, with this I'll just stop coming back.
Really feel bad about losing this comunity, the solution is that Dice back off or fork... Next week will be off /.
Will be the most productive week of the year.

Re:Boycott (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46174041)

Thank you for informing me of this. I have seen both and I like the beta more. I hope classic dies a quick a painful death.

Re:Boycott (4, Interesting)

AndroSyn (89960) | about 7 months ago | (#46174113)

I don't usually respond to off-topic stuff like this, but seriously what the fuck is up with the beta design? This crap is terrible...absolutely terrible. Do not want. I've been wondering why I still stick around /. but I think the new site might be the final nail in the coffin for me.

RIP /. you used to suck, now you just fail.

Re:Boycott (1)

DarkMorph (874731) | about 7 months ago | (#46174355)

Logging in for the first time in at least 3 years for the sole purpose of contributing to the "fuck beta" momentum building up here.

I've seen one particulary inspiring comment (can't remember whose quote it is off-hand, sorry) - as a last resort, if the beta movement isn't rescinded then let's do what we always do when an OSS project goes to hell.

Fork it.

Get the fuck away from DICE and get our own /. going. If they're so determined to drive the majority of us away from this site, may as well have a new place to call home.

Beta Blows (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46173333)

Scrap it and go back to the drawing board!!!!!

How Slashdot Beta has impacted my life. (4, Insightful)

east coast (590680) | about 7 months ago | (#46173337)

I will not give in to the powers-that-be-Dice and put up with a terrible design with no functional gains.

Boycott the Beta!

About the beta. (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46173343)

It is now official. Netcraft has confirmed: Slashdot is dying.

        One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered Slashdot community when IDC confirmed that Slashdot page views has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all websites. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that Slashdot has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. Slashdot is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by the stupid fucking beta website and the wholesale discard of user feedback.

        You don't need to be the Amazing Kreskin to predict Slashdot's future. The hand writing is on the wall: Slashdot faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for Slashdot because Slashdot is dying. Things are looking very bad for Slashdot. As many of us are already aware, Slashdot continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.

        Slashdot Beta is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core users. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time Slashdot users Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: Slashdot is dying.

        All major surveys show that Slashdot has steadily declined in market share. Slashdot is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If Slashdot is to survive at all it will be among S&M enthusiasts. Slashdot continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, Slashdot is dead.

That crippling bombshell sent Slashdot fans into a tailspin of mourning and denial. However, bad news poured in like a river of water.

Fuck the beta.

Re:About the beta. (1)

c0lo (1497653) | about 7 months ago | (#46173501)

In his last speech as Microsoft CEO, Steve Ballmer endorsed beta:

"There's nothing that beta.slashdot.org cannot do. beta.slashdot.org can simply do anything. Anything rendered in beta.slashdot.org is fantastic. I love beta.slashdot.org. I can't get enough of beta.slashdot.org. Return to betadom, you insolent insects! You're nothing without beta.slashdot.org! Why not use beta.slashdot.org? Linux is garbage; it wasn't made for beta.slashdot.org. Why do you cower? Because you're not using beta.slashdot.org. Use beta.slashdot.org already! Return, return, return, return, return to beta-dooooooooooooooom!"

Steve Ballmer, on beta.slashdot.org.

Slashdot Beta: Day Two (3, Insightful)

sl4shd0rk (755837) | about 7 months ago | (#46173345)

..All sense of time has deceived me as the day has started out with thick clouds overhead. It is difficult to tell if morning or early afternoon. I've struck my head on something earlier as I collapsed, shortly after waking, and have no idea how long I've been out. An odd fog has rolled in from the north; cold and dank, reeking of stale piss. I wonder if there are others out there.. Afraid and confused.. Shackled to the same fate as I. This godforsaken Beta UI.

Re:Slashdot Beta: Day Two (4, Funny)

TWiTfan (2887093) | about 7 months ago | (#46173677)

I have swallowed my pride and dignity and, against all my best instincts, I have entered the beta. I find myself standing in an open field west of a white house, with a boarded front door. There is a small mailbox here.

Re: Slashdot Beta: Day Two (4, Funny)

schlouse (36695) | about 7 months ago | (#46173779)

The mailbox contains a small figurine of some sort. Upon closer inspection, it appears to be constructed of some sort of fossilized wood, depicting a once-popular actress alongside a popular southern state hot grain product.

Re:Slashdot Beta: Day Two (1)

petkill (839258) | about 7 months ago | (#46173819)

>You are likely to be eaten by a Slashdot Beta >The Slashdot Beta is a sinister, lurking presence in the dark places of the Internet. Its favorite diet is commenters, but its insatiable appetite is tempered by its fear of light. No succesful Beta has ever been seen by the light of day, and few have survived its fearsome jaws to tell the tale.

Re:Slashdot Beta: Day Two (2)

pr0fessor (1940368) | about 7 months ago | (#46174359)

You have been eaten by a grue.

The best part about Slashdot... (5, Insightful)

Bearded Frog (1562519) | about 7 months ago | (#46173363)

The best part about Slashdot for me was really the people who visit it. This site has had one of the most intelligent communities around. This is how the site is successful IMO. Really good people massing together behind it. Finding and promoting articles is one thing but the commentary is where it really takes off. Almost every time I view a story what I find more interesting is the story that develops below it. I really don't know of another site where I can attempt to follow a debate about nuclear fusion, and find a debate about Apple only a page apart. This is about to be taken away as the best and brightest around here are going to leave as they are fed up with these beta changes, and Slashdot as a quality site will die. The new site takes away from the comments and the user driven atmosphere and plasters it with pictures and wasted space. This protest may seem futile at first to the bigwigs at the top here, but like I said the best part about this site is the comments. Therefore, if the only comments left are ones complaining about beta, its going to be a very accurate view of the future of Slashdot from here onward if the beta continues.

Re: The best part about Slashdot... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46173519)

the beta will not continue. not in this house. the beta must die.

Re:The best part about Slashdot... (2)

Pav (4298) | about 7 months ago | (#46173699)

The question : what can replace it if/when this is required? This episode is making me wish I'd been keeping up with the federated technologies people have been experimenting with - a federated nerd community that somehow included moderation wouldn't make me cry. It's strange but I've actually returned to IRC after 15 years - the dev communities I'm interested in have channels on FreeNode, and it's one of the only other truly nerd-friendly hangouts left.

Re:The best part about Slashdot... (3)

argStyopa (232550) | about 7 months ago | (#46173805)

The best part about Slashdot for me was really the people who visited it. This site had one of the most intelligent communities around. This is how the site was successful IMO. Really good people massed together behind it. Finding and promoting articles was one thing but the commentary was where it really took off. Almost every time I viewed a story what I found more interesting was the story that developed below it. I really didn't know of another site where I could have attempted to follow a debate about nuclear fusion, and found a debate about Apple only a page apart. This was taken away as the best and brightest around here left when they were fed up with these beta changes, and Slashdot as a quality site died. The new site took away from the comments and the user driven atmosphere and plastered it with pictures and wasted space. This protest may have seemed futile at first to the bigwigs at the top here, but like I said the best part about this site was the comments. Therefore, if the only comments left were ones complaining about beta, it was going to be a very accurate view of the future of Slashdot from here onward when the beta continued.

Ftfy.

What I think is hilarious is that they can spend resources building the betabomination, but we still use markup from like 1991. Hey guys, there's better forum code out there, where you can even EDIT POSTS! /noveltyshock.

BETA SUCKS

Re:The best part about Slashdot... (5, Insightful)

LQ (188043) | about 7 months ago | (#46173809)

The best part about Slashdot for me was really the people who visit it. This site has had one of the most intelligent communities around.

Exactly. It is not a news site. It is a place where geeky folk discuss techie news items. That's why I've been visiting daily for over 15 years. I'll be sad to see it go. Why does everything turn to shite when the MBAs take over?

Re:The best part about Slashdot... (1)

StripedCow (776465) | about 7 months ago | (#46173951)

If this continues, I suspect that another company will take over.

Perhaps the Stackexchange guys (known for Stackoverflow) can come up with a nice forum for us...
They already have most of the code in place in the form of a Q/A board. And they have the community (programmers, physicists, electrical engineers, etc.)

I can see that work.

Re:The best part about Slashdot... (2)

Thud457 (234763) | about 7 months ago | (#46174129)

beta.slashdot.com will re-write your hard drive. Not only that, but beta.slashdot.com will scramble any disks that are even close to your computer. It will recalibrate your refrigerator's coolness setting so all your ice cream goes melty. beta.slashdot.com will demagnetize the strips on all your credit cards, screw up the tracking on your television and use subspace field harmonics to scratch any CD's you try to play.

beta.slashdot.com will give your ex-girlfriend your new phone number. It will mix Kool-aid into your fishtank. beta.slashdot.com will drink all your beer and leave its socks out on the coffee table when there's company coming over. beta.slashdot.com will put a dead kitten in the back pocket of your good suit pants and hide your car keys when you are late for work.

beta.slashdot.com will make you fall in love with a penguin. beta.slashdot.com will give you nightmares about circus midgets. beta.slashdot.com will pour sugar in your gas tank and shave off both your eyebrows while dating your girlfriend behind your back and billing the dinner and hotel room to your Discover card.

beta.slashdot.com will seduce your grandmother. beta.slashdot.com does not matter if she is dead, such is the power of beta.slashdot.com, beta.slashdot.com reaches out beyond the grave to sully those things we hold most dear.

beta.slashdot.com moves your car randomly around parking lots so you can't find it. beta.slashdot.com will kick your dog. beta.slashdot.com will leave libidinous messages on your boss's voice mail in your voice! beta.slashdot.com is insidious and subtle. It is dangerous and terrifying to behold. beta.slashdot.com is also a rather interesting shade of mauve.

beta.slashdot.com will give you Dutch Elm disease. beta.slashdot.com will leave the toilet seat up. beta.slashdot.com will make a batch of Methanphedime in your bathtub and then leave bacon cooking on the stove while beta.slashdot.com goes out to chase gradeschoolers with your new snowblower.

Beta Boycott (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46173365)

Feb 10 - feb 17.

He's a traitor (-1, Flamebait)

mozumder (178398) | about 7 months ago | (#46173375)

Rare that you see a genuine, bona-fide traitor these days.

Glad that people are starting to come around to this conclusions, and away from the hero that the self-centered libertarian narcissist precious snowflake that infests Slashdot thinks of him as.

Sorry you idiots, but in the real world, you're not the center of the universe. Your life doesn't revolve around you and your "me! me! me!" views. You actually have limits on your power in life, and the best you can do with your limits in life is to live for others, not for yourself.

You actually have to pay to play in life. Life isn't free, regardless of what you were incorrectly taught by your mistaken idealist parents.

The reason you have to pay to play in life is because there is no power interested in allowing you to live for free. You need to do stuff for others, all the time, to get by in life. This is the minimum.

The Snowdens of the world think of life as being about them, mistakenly thinking you can do "whatever you want" since it's a "free country". We adults know this is an incorrect view, which is why we are strong socialists and work to improve on the power of a central governmental authority.

Re:He's a traitor (4, Funny)

Rosco P. Coltrane (209368) | about 7 months ago | (#46173457)

Glad that people are starting to come around to this conclusions, and away from the hero that the self-centered libertarian narcissist precious snowflake that infests Slashdot thinks of him as.

Did you know Snowden doesn't like Beta? How do you feel about him now, huh?

Re:He's a traitor (4, Funny)

mwvdlee (775178) | about 7 months ago | (#46173473)

He may be a traitor, but atleast he hasn't created beta.

Re:He's a traitor (0)

qpqp (1969898) | about 7 months ago | (#46173511)

Who cares about your trolling, offtopic comment?

Go fuck Beta!

Re:He's a traitor (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46174189)

Troll, my guess is you support beta.

Re:He's a traitor (1)

SleazyRidr (1563649) | about 7 months ago | (#46174333)

We need the Snowdens of the world, precisely because you can't do "whatever you want" in a "free country". The NSA etc. thinks that because they're "the good guys" they can do whatever they want to catch "the bad guys." They can't: we have the constitution, and if they can't do their jobs while following it, we need to replace them with people who can.

ask the good natured end USers (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46173383)

we should know http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=citizens%20police%20state&sm=3

Slashdot Beta (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46173389)

Does it auto-play videos for everyone?

No just NO (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46173393)

Can we safely assume if you must log in during the boycott next week everyone will post simple polite Fcku Beta messages?

Give it two weeks or two months (1)

sandbagger (654585) | about 7 months ago | (#46173433)

And they'll be back to the lowest common denominator level of security.

Re:Give it two weeks or two months (1)

oodaloop (1229816) | about 7 months ago | (#46174081)

It's been months and there's no sign of stopping. (IAA Defense Contractor).

Also, /. BETA sucks.

Snowden's Beta (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46173437)

Snowden's demosntration of the insider threat is just as dangerous to the credibility of the IT community as the arrogance shown by the Beta. Both demonstrate a level of arrogance disconnected from the customer base, which leaves our community a target. Why should you empower the IT department when they do things to you like this?

Slashdot beta and defence contractors? (3, Interesting)

gallondr00nk (868673) | about 7 months ago | (#46173439)

It's funny, but since yesterday and the javascript popup, I find myself unable to type any comment that isn't directly about the beta.

Re:Slashdot beta and defence contractors? (4, Funny)

TWiTfan (2887093) | about 7 months ago | (#46173695)

Everyone is talking about the beta. Somewhere, there is a very jealous alpha.

Save Slashdot Classic (5, Interesting)

Bob9113 (14996) | about 7 months ago | (#46173441)

Javascript dancing baloney and giant pretty pictures belong on USA Today, not Slashdot.

The meat of Slashdot, the substance that draws viewers here instead of the alternatives, is the comments. Lose those comments and you will lose the eyeballs. Lose the eyeballs and you will lose the ad revenue.

Alternatively, you can accept that you made a mistake, keep Slashdot classic, and keep the steady flow of cash. Make the right business decision, here, Dice. Don't kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.

No legitimate discussion until Slashdot classic is restored. Sacrifice a few days of discussion now to save all the days in the future. The Spirit of Mohdri Dragon [wired.com] Lives! (feel free to get drunk and naked while posting)

Re:Save Slashdot Classic (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46173795)

SlashWordpress buildMySite is supposed to be an upgrade?

Re:Save Slashdot Classic (1)

MrNemesis (587188) | about 7 months ago | (#46174019)

"I come not to praise Slashdot, but to bury it".

Dice have no reason to keep the comment system - commenters don't make them any money. Large click-through rates on huge adverts and paid placements/slashvertisements make money, and those are things that the current user base are extremely sensitive and hostile to. So the easiest solution is to gut slashdot from the inside out by destroying the thing we come here for - then all of us pesky marketing-resistant geeks will fuck off someplace else, leaving the site free for either a) an eternal september's worth of users from elsewhere or b) strip-mining of the /. assets.

Either way, given the way this beta has been foisted upon everyone with next to no feedback being listened to, I think dice has decided that /. as we know it is dead. Businesses rarely recognise sacred cows.

Re:Save Slashdot Classic (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46174175)

Slashdot was fine as it was and should be left as it was. This supposed upgrade is no good at all.

fuck beta (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46173475)

Fuck beta

What's the Big Deal About Beta? (3, Interesting)

SenorPez (840621) | about 7 months ago | (#46173527)

Me: Beta can't be that bad, right? *clicks link to see beta version of article* Me: Wow. That's terrible. It's like Digg and Reddit had a baby. Whoever thinks it's a good design should go back to working on the latest internet startup that ends in "er" without the "e".

NO! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46173569)

If you move me to the beta slashdot abortion i'll add this place to the block list and never visit again.

Too many other news sites regurgitate the exact same storys i see here. And all of them don't look as shitty as the beta slashdot.

Stop being stupid.

FUCK BETA (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46173585)

Edward Snowden is not half the hero that any Slashdotter will be if he opposes Slashdot Beta!

Slashdotters of the world, unite! You have nothing to lose but your chains!

Welp, ya done it now /. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46173597)

Ya pissed off the nerds, and lords knows no ones got time to post up about how dumb a move you are making than a bunch of pissed off nerds.

Obligatory meaningless title (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46173967)

Not just the time to make posts ourselves, I've got a capcha beating script set to post a vicious anti-beta diatribe onto every new story that pops up on the main page.

Although, now I'm spending all my time tweaking the script...

Somebody tell me when the crybabying is over (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46173605)

so that I can start reading comments about interesting topics again.

Re: Somebody tell me when the crybabying is over (0)

schlouse (36695) | about 7 months ago | (#46173679)

You are a fucking retard. The point is precisely that the posters of good comments are themselves planning to go away.

Lurker (5, Informative)

Octojay (3528011) | about 7 months ago | (#46173633)

I've been lurking on Slashdot since its inception but haven't felt the need to create an account until now. I will be joining the boycott on February 10-17th. Beta is absolutely terrible, I gave them that feedback when they introduced it and apparently so had everyone else but they chose not to listen. This site is something special, please don't let them destroy it.

Dice it (1)

captchya (3527985) | about 7 months ago | (#46173653)

Slashdot Beta..poster child of the new VP in charge of Slashdot at Dice. Budget has been eaten up, Beta is finally ready. VP has to either launch the Beta or quit. I pity the VP! Extremely ugly options, both.

Re:Dice it (1)

LVSlushdat (854194) | about 7 months ago | (#46173997)

Apparently Dice subscribes to the Microsoft/Canonical "Do what we want.. FUCK the users of our product" schoool of thought.. Witness Windows 8 for Microsoft, and Unity for Canonical/Ubuntu... "We know what's best for you, and you'll use it and LIKE it!!".. ummm... No we won't.. For my (shudder) occassional use of Windows, its Windows 7 till hell freezes over, and, though I used to swear by Ubuntu, now I swear AT it.. Moved without regret to Debian... Wonder where I'll go when Slashdot takes the "dirtnap"... Been here since 1998 or so.. Lost my original account, thus the larger UID...

Re:Dice it (1)

LVSlushdat (854194) | about 7 months ago | (#46174027)

damn.. forgot the main thrust of my post...

FUCK THE BETA!!!

Edward "Beta" Snowden (1)

schlouse (36695) | about 7 months ago | (#46173657)

Says "nope"

Headline is biased (1)

0xdeadbeef (28836) | about 7 months ago | (#46173663)

I think you mean "How their own actions have impacted defense contractors". If they didn't have dirty secrets, there would have been no motive for Snowden's policing, and nothing for him to publish.

Re:Headline is biased (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46173797)

One ontopic post and it gets modded Overrated. Don't defy the groupthink.

Re:Headline is biased (1)

doti (966971) | about 7 months ago | (#46173829)

sorry, we will not discuss about the articles until the beta goes away, or /. dies

also, fuck beta.

Holy god the beta (5, Insightful)

jonnythan (79727) | about 7 months ago | (#46173701)

The beta is bad. It's so bad. The comments are reduced in screen width about 50%. Subject lines are deemphasized, scores are minimized, etc.

The discussions are the reason to come to Slashdot, and the beta trivializes them entirely. It looks like the comment section on a generic news site.

The comments now look like an afterthought, whereas they used to be the primary focus of the site.

Re:Holy god the beta (4, Insightful)

bjoast (1310293) | about 7 months ago | (#46173849)

A few more points:

- The user IDs don't even show.
- The comment date says things like "Yesterday" or "4 hours ago".
- Beta sucks.

anonymous (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46173719)

Perhaps Anonymous could help with this Beta problem. They love to "fix" things

Bit of a blow (1)

jlebrech (810586) | about 7 months ago | (#46173753)

... for stackoverflow coders

BETA(max) (1)

nebulus4 (799015) | about 7 months ago | (#46173803)

Does anyone know who designed Beta? Was it done in house or did they use some 3rd party? I really want to know, so I would never ever have to deal with these people.

Re:BETA(max) (1)

LVSlushdat (854194) | about 7 months ago | (#46174045)

Hell, they could have done a better job with a rewrite by simply using WordPress.... Oh well, a roll of the Dice, it comes up snake-eyes... users lose!!!

dice non est arbiter elegantiarum (3, Informative)

CaptainStumpy (1132145) | about 7 months ago | (#46173837)

beta is crappy.

I thought the previous redesign was bad (3, Informative)

ThEATrE (1071762) | about 7 months ago | (#46173847)

This most recent redesign is just unusable. I will leave 100% if this is the new Slashdot.

Re:I thought the previous redesign was bad (3, Informative)

ThEATrE (1071762) | about 7 months ago | (#46173859)

I tested out the beta in a new window and if it keeps up, I will remove it from my history so it doesn't autofill in my browser navigation bar and just stop coming here.

Re:I thought the previous redesign was bad (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46173941)

I tested out the beta in a new window and if it keeps up, I will go back and time and prevent Slashdot's parents from meeting so that it will have never been born.

Maybe we're all missing the big picture... (1, Funny)

RDW (41497) | about 7 months ago | (#46173857)

In an earlier Snowden story, it was revealed that:

"British intelligence agency Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) reportedly used spoofed LinkedIn and Slashdot pages to compromise the computers of network engineers working for global roaming exchange providers based in Europe."

http://news.idg.no/cw/art.cfm?... [news.idg.no]

Is it possible that all of us, right now, are logged into a spoofed page that has replaced the real Slashdot for reasons known only to GCHQ and the NSA? 'Beta' is probably the final stage in whatever sinister plot they have planned for us. Incredible, I know, but is it any less likely than the alternative, that a job search site none of us had ever heard of would buy Geeknet for $20 million, and then proceed to trash its properties by a series of bizarre decisions like setting up SlashBI (beware the tumbleweed!) and inflicting Beta on its loyal readers? Just how far does this conspiracy go?

Beta Sucks. (2)

csumpi (2258986) | about 7 months ago | (#46173927)

Beta Sucks.

BETA gives you cancer!!!! (1)

Nightbrood (6060) | about 7 months ago | (#46173947)

Fuck Beta... I've been on this site for over 16 years I thought you guys were on something until I went and viewed it. It is an unholy abomination. I even took the time to dig up my Slashdot account instead of lurking because of how horrendous the new site is to use.

P.S. Do I get bonus points for hating Beta with a 4 digit UID or does that just make me old? Of course you can't see that if you are using beta. ;)

I didn't sign up for the beta (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46174363)

Where can I get the stable release?

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