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Snowden Docs Show UK's Digital Spies Using Viruses, Honey Traps

timothy posted about 7 months ago | from the at-least-it's-an-ethos dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "At the start of this week, documents released by whistleblower Edward Snowden detailed DDOS attacks on chatrooms by a British online intelligence unit dubbed the Joint Threat Research Intelligence Group (JTRIG). Now he has released a new trove showing that JTRIG is about much more than purely online annoyances. According to the documents, released to NBC News, JTRIG's role is to "deny, disrupt, degrade and deceive" by any means possible. These techniques include destroying an individual's computer with a custom virus dubbed "Ambassador's Reception", setting up social media honey traps to harvest embarrassing information, actively attacking companies online and off, and planting data on people's systems."

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JTRIG vs Beta (-1, Offtopic)

roman_mir (125474) | about 7 months ago | (#46196543)

The one time JTRIG may do some good by DDOSing Beta.

Oh, also governments of the world = /. Beta IMNSHO.

Re:JTRIG vs Beta (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46196685)

Don't you walk through my words
You got to show some respect
Don't you walk through my words
Cause you ain't heard me out yet

And I say, I don't like beta, oh no, I hate it
I don't like beta, oh no, I hate it

Re:JTRIG vs Beta (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46196723)

snowden snowden snowden...
Is the new corporate ownership, aside from stuff beta down our throats, intent on stuffing partisan political propaganda as well?
koch bros have bought up many news outlets (notably failing to purchase LA Times), is this just another attempt to turn young voters away from the D's to the R's?

Re:JTRIG vs Beta (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46196815)

Oh great, even your in on it now. Well, the shit flooding isn't cool anymore. Dice has won, people.

Re:JTRIG vs Beta (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46197231)

It's not uncool until APK joins in.

Oh, really? At least I give folks options (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46199169)

http://slashdot.org/comments.p... [slashdot.org] Unlike a no-balls unidentifiable ac trolling scumbag weasel "not man" good for nothing (like you)...

APK

P.S.=> Pussies like you in this life never fail to amaze me: Your type acts worse than gossiping women talking behind others' backs, commiserating over the FAILURE of THEIR OWN LIVES - it's WHY I call "your kind" in this life, "not men"... apk

Re:Oh, really? At least I give folks options (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46199625)

it's WHY I call "your kind" in this life, "not men".

Check your privilege cis scum. Why are you so transphobic?

"Rinse, Lather, Repeat" troll (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46199751)

http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... [slashdot.org]

* :)

APK

P.S.=> That's all I have to say to you & it certainly got a "rise" out of you, now didn't it? TRUTH always does - i.e.: You're just a useless troll, nothing more (& you KNOW it), "not man" (lol)...

... apk

Re:"Rinse, Lather, Repeat" troll (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46199839)

You're a worthless bigot.

Re:"Rinse, Lather, Repeat" troll (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46199861)

If he's a worthless bigot (yet he supplies a useful free tool) then what does that make you, troll? Less than a worthless bigot is what. You/re a useless troll.

Boycott (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46196553)

Please post this to new articles if it hasn't been posted yet. (Copy-paste the html from here [pastebin.com] so links don't get mangled!)

On February 5, 2014, Slashdot announced through a javascript popup that they are starting to "move in to" the new Slashdot Beta design. Slashdot Beta is a trend-following attempt to give Slashdot a fresh look, an approach that has led to less space for text and an abandonment of the traditional Slashdot look. Much worse than that, Slashdot Beta fundamentally breaks the classic Slashdot discussion and moderation system.

If you haven't seen Slashdot Beta already, open this [slashdot.org] in a new tab. After seeing that, click here [slashdot.org] to return to classic Slashdot.

We should boycott stories and only discuss the abomination that is Slashdot Beta until Dice abandons the project.
We should boycott slashdot entirely during the week of Feb 10 to Feb 17 as part of the wider slashcott [slashdot.org]

Moderators - only spend mod points on comments that discuss Beta
Commentors - only discuss Beta
  http://slashdot.org/recent [slashdot.org] - Vote up the Fuck Beta stories

Keep this up for a few days and we may finally get the PHBs attention.

-----=====##### LINKS #####=====-----

Discussion of Beta: http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&id=56395415 [slashdot.org]

Discussion of where to go if Beta goes live: http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&type=submission&id=3321441 [slashdot.org]

Alternative Slashdot: http://altslashdot.org [altslashdot.org] (thanks Okian Warrior (537106) [slashdot.org] )

Re:Boycott (-1, Offtopic)

runeghost (2509522) | about 7 months ago | (#46196591)

Please post this to new articles if it hasn't been posted yet. (Copy-paste the html from here [pastebin.com] so links don't get mangled!)

On February 5, 2014, Slashdot announced through a javascript popup that they are starting to "move in to" the new Slashdot Beta design. Slashdot Beta is a trend-following attempt to give Slashdot a fresh look, an approach that has led to less space for text and an abandonment of the traditional Slashdot look. Much worse than that, Slashdot Beta fundamentally breaks the classic Slashdot discussion and moderation system.

If you haven't seen Slashdot Beta already, open this [slashdot.org] in a new tab. After seeing that, click here [slashdot.org] to return to classic Slashdot.

We should boycott stories and only discuss the abomination that is Slashdot Beta until Dice abandons the project.
We should boycott slashdot entirely during the week of Feb 10 to Feb 17 as part of the wider slashcott [slashdot.org]

Moderators - only spend mod points on comments that discuss Beta
Commentors - only discuss Beta
http://slashdot.org/recent [slashdot.org] - Vote up the Fuck Beta stories

Keep this up for a few days and we may finally get the PHBs attention.

-----=====##### LINKS #####=====-----

Discussion of Beta: http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&id=56395415 [slashdot.org]

Discussion of where to go if Beta goes live: http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&type=submission&id=3321441 [slashdot.org]

Alternative Slashdot: http://altslashdot.org [altslashdot.org] (thanks Okian Warrior (537106) [slashdot.org] )

Thank you for the update!

KEEP IT COMING (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46196637)

FUCK BETA

Stop the redirect to "beta", easily (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46199121)

Stop /. redirecting you to it @ least, by adding THIS to your hosts file:

216.34.181.45 slashdot.org
216.34.181.45 beta.slashdot.org
216.34.181.46 images.slashdot.org
216.34.181.48 it.slashdot.org
216.34.181.48 developers.slashdot.org
216.34.181.48 yro.slashdot.org
216.34.181.48 mobile.slashdot.org
216.34.181.48 news.slashdot.org
216.34.181.48 ask.slashdot.org
216.34.181.48 tech.slashdot.org
216.34.181.48 apple.slashdot.org
216.34.181.48 books.slashdot.org
216.34.181.48 games.slashdot.org
216.34.181.48 hardware.slashdot.org
216.34.181.48 interviews.slashdot.org
216.34.181.48 linux.slashdot.org
216.34.181.48 science.slashdot.org
216.34.181.48 idle.slashdot.org

* :)

THAT will block out their ability to redirect you to it whatsoever - Especially the 2nd line item from the top/BOLDED entry line above...

(You're welcome)

APK

P.S.=> To import, sort, deduplication, create & manage a custom hosts file easily that does not only THAT (secures you vs. redirects @ the DNS or even site level), but also gives you more speed, security, reliablity, & even anonymity, use this (shameless plug, details of what custom hosts give you in FULL are listed here) -> http://start64.com/index.php?o... [start64.com]

... apk

Re:Stop the redirect to "beta", easily (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46200645)

The beta does seem to be trash at the moment.
Dearest admins, please please please, fix the fucker, before you decide
to foist it upon your readership.

fuss the beta (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46196557)

a fuss on the beta

BETA (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46196573)

Oh.. so that's what BETA is about!!!

FORK /. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46196579)

Beta is the canary in the coal mine.

Slashdot Media was acquired to provide content and services that are important to technology professionals in their everyday work lives and to leverage that reach into the global technology community benefiting user engagement on the Dice.com site. The expected benefits have started to be realized at Dice.com. However, advertising revenue has declined over the past year and there is no improvement expected in the future financial performance of Slashdot Media's underlying advertising business. Therefore, $7.2 million of intangible assets and $6.3 million of goodwill related to Slashdot Media were reduced to zero.

http://altslashdot.org/ [altslashdot.org]

Interesting read (-1, Flamebait)

aaaaaaargh! (1150173) | about 7 months ago | (#46196583)

Snowden's probably right. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if the new Slashdot design (aka "B e t a") were one of the devious DDOS attacks of the British online intelligence in order to further the agenda of the British Broadcasting Corporation and weaken US media influence. Think about it: What a heinous plan to implement a new web design and then let the rest of the DOS attack be done by the crowd - and with a jolly good sense of British humour mixed in, I may add! So what do you think? Is it possible that the Brits are behind all this?

Re:Interesting read (1)

roman_mir (125474) | about 7 months ago | (#46197179)

Brits are behind everything, Beta included. In fact look over your shoulder right now, look over, chances are, there is a Brit there now. Now look at beta.slash...... the proof is in the pudding, brittish pudding.

Re:Interesting read (1)

maxwell demon (590494) | about 7 months ago | (#46198341)

Beta = British extra-territorial attack?

But I can assure you: The proof is not in the pudding. Just try to eat it.

Re:Interesting read (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46197879)

Eh, I blame Canada. In fact, lets ALL blame Canada! Blame Canada! Blame Canada...

Re:Interesting read (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46198983)

The whole BETA site is a quantum insert attack as described already:

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/11/uk-spies-continue-quantum-insert-attack-via-linkedin-slashdot-pages/
Der Spiegel suggests that the Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ), the British sister agency to the NSA, used spoofed versions of LinkedIn and Slashdot pages to serve malware to targets. This type of attack was also used to target “nine salaried employees” of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC), the global oil cartel.

Kill The Beta (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46196595)

Kill it NOW...

Timothy, do you really believe in the beta? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46196607)

Timothy, I know you been with Slashdot for quite a while. So I think you should have a good idea about what Slashdot stands for, what the users here want, and what we expect.

But I've also read your Slashdot Tries Something New; Audience Responds! [slashdot.org] article. It confuses me, because it's so contradictory to common sense, and to what so many people here have expressed over these past few days.

Please be honest with us, do you seriously support the beta? Or are you going along with this beta push in a likely futile attempt to extend your paycheck for just a few more months?

I think we can all understand if you're going along with this deadly charade just to keep your job, out of basic necessity. We've all been there at one point or another, publicly supporting some corporate stance that we don't personally support. We can also understand if, due to this, you're unable to express your true beliefs at this time.

When this whole ordeal is over, most likely ending with the self-imposed destruction of Slashdot as we know it (and possibly your very own job, along with it, I do fear), will you please eventually reveal your true feelings?

This Slashdot beta ordeal is shaping up to be a defining moment in the history of the Internet. Historians of the future will be very interested to know what the core participants actually thought, even if they couldn't express those thoughts at the time of the event. So, please, at some point write an article with your true feelings regarding the beta incident. I have a gut feeling that your true thoughts do not correspond to what you've expressed in your "Slashdot Tries Something New; Audience Responds!" posting.

Running out of mod points (-1, Offtopic)

spacefight (577141) | about 7 months ago | (#46196663)

... but another user here: FUCK BETA.

They will lose me as a user once BETA goes mandatory.

Oh, I won't make them money because I am allowed "to have ads disabled"...

Re:Running out of mod points (4, Insightful)

arth1 (260657) | about 7 months ago | (#46196715)

Oh, I won't make them money because I am allowed "to have ads disabled"...

Even with ads disabled, you make them money by writing posts that others come to see. If the contributors cease to contribute, there will be no ad-viewing audience either.

What upper management need to realize, is that without the contributors and deep discussions they have, Slashdot is nothing.

Re:Running out of mod points (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46196835)

full agreement!

  #FUCKBETA, FUCK BETA

Just got a warning trying to post the above in all caps....!

Re:Running out of mod points (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46196897)

At this point we don't need the Beta to ruin this place because the whiny assholes that are hijacking every article to bitch about it are much better at it than the beta ever could.

Re:Running out of mod points (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46196899)

... but another user here: FUCK BETA.

They will lose me as a user once BETA goes mandatory.

Oh, I won't make them money because I am allowed "to have ads disabled"...

Don't mod him off topic... We need to STOP the beta...

Re:Running out of mod points (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46198119)

Anyone who replies to the topic and not FUCK BETA needs to be modded off-topic...

Re:Running out of mod points (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46197805)

SLASHDOT AS YOU KNEW IT IS FINISHED.....IT IS OVER.....One look at the slashdotmedia.com webpage will confirm that for you.
If you cannot stomach the BETA redesign, if you really love the classic site layout so much, YOU MUST fork the site code and start another site such as what "AltSlashdot" are attempting to do....no if's or but's about this anymore !!!!! Personally speaking, I think it may be a good idea if Joel Spolsky (co-founder of StackOverflow) got involved.

Re:Running out of mod points (2)

mikael (484) | about 7 months ago | (#46198053)

I am sure it would be possible for someone to create an Opera or Firefox plugin that filters downloads of slashdot beta articles and converts them back to slashdot classic.

Spy on me, AND give me a virus? (-1, Flamebait)

GoodNewsJimDotCom (2244874) | about 7 months ago | (#46196677)

The bad guys give people viruses. I can totally understand the naive notion that spying hurts human trafficing, drug dealers and terrorists. I don't subscribe to it, but some people do and I don't argue a lot. But giving people viruses and degrading traffic. Who do you think you are? Slashdot beta?

Re:Spy on me, AND give me a virus? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46196781)

It all makes perfecy sense once you realize who the beneficiaries and enemies really are.

Re:Spy on me, AND give me a virus? (1)

davester666 (731373) | about 7 months ago | (#46197169)

you are wasting valuable computing resources, with your pointless surfing the internets, watching the porn, playing the games, when those resources could be used by your country to ferret out the enemy and bring him/her/it to justice.

And fuck beta.

The Dice-man cometh (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46196683)

What this fiasco represents is a challenge to the real /. community. That challenge is to find a way to recreate /. with a structure that is more resistant to corporate hijacking. A structure that rightfully recognises the community as centrally important; not as an "audience" that is simply a variable in the revenue equation. It might take a while, but it can be done.

altslashdot.org [altslashdot.org]

BUCK FETA (-1, Offtopic)

SwitchX (3530305) | about 7 months ago | (#46196703)

Also... FUCK BETA... im a regular reader of slashdot and had to create an account to speak against the Beta... its awful really. This new interfaces, the JS overload in the browser... its nothing like the old good slashdot. It is certain things have to improve but do not "improve" like windows, PLEASE. Slashdot is better than that. Listen to the users, listen to the readers, listen to the community

Re:BUCK FETA (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46196955)

They have already listened and are in process of fixing things.

reasonable doubt? (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46196729)

"planting data on people's systems."

I don't know what the laws are in the UK. I would imagine that could get many "cyber crimes" tossed. How can it be proven that any evidence wasn't planted now?

Re:reasonable doubt? (2)

richlv (778496) | about 7 months ago | (#46197057)

so actually... slashdot media is not responsible for beta, it's JTRIG/GCHQ !

Re:reasonable doubt? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46197227)

In the Lord Protector's..Soviet..Nazi..Beta..Queen's England, all doubt is unreasonable.

Re:reasonable doubt? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46197537)

Good question, all police forces are told to never plant evidence as this will invalidate all their cases that involve computer crimes, secret services evidence isn't allowed to be shown in courts though so they probably don't get to even challenge it, this smacks of a kangaroo court and people should stop burying their heads in sands and start paying attention to what Mr Snowden has to say..

Re: reasonable doubt? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46205907)

I think u mean in "open court"

Re:reasonable doubt? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46198195)

The point of planting data isn't to get individual thrown in jail (unless it's by confusing some other country's legal system). It sees they're planing information for other cyperintelligence people to find, in order to mislead them.

Don't get caught using BETA (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46196733)

FUCK THE SLASHDOT BETA - Boycott from 10 to 17 of February, do NOT come. Please, help Slashdot: Do NOT post meaningful responses to the articles and join us in the boycott.

Err. Today is Feb 9th. I though you lot were boyco (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46199845)

Err. Today is Feb 9th. I though you lot were boycotting.

ffs (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46196753)

Would you people please just shut the fuck up about Beta already?

Nobody's put a gun to your head and told you to use slashdot.

Either accept it or leave. Pick one.

Re:ffs (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46197163)

Go fuck yourself. And beta can fuck you too. Then you can fuck beta. In fact, if you love beta so fucking much why don't you marry it?

Re:ffs (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46197261)

suck my disk dice plant

I still see classic, no redirect to beta (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46199771)

Here's how: I don't have to accept it after this http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... [slashdot.org]

Hilarious thought! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46196777)

Seeing a small group of plebs who actively troll 4chan. Then seeing that same small group all in a dimly lit room with a rinky-dink paper banner overhead entitled "JTRIG". Oh man, my sides!

Homework Assignment For This Story (1)

djupedal (584558) | about 7 months ago | (#46196779)

The more people that repeatedly search on 'Ambassador's Reception', the more fun the security wonks will have trying to figure out why the spike and which ambassador :)

Re:Homework Assignment For This Story (1)

fridaynightsmoke (1589903) | about 7 months ago | (#46196919)

The more people that repeatedly search on 'Ambassador's Reception', the more fun the security wonks will have trying to figure out why the spike and which ambassador :)

Of course they all want to watch this 'classic' tv ad... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... [youtube.com]

Maybe the 'honeytrap' involved bribing people with offers of aspirational confectionary?

Planting Data? (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46196813)

Like say, Child Pornography?

How the hell is planting data legal? When did we start seeing that framing people for prosecution and incarceration was acceptable in ANY way?

Re:Planting Data? (2)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about 7 months ago | (#46197737)

When did we start seeing that framing people for prosecution and incarceration was acceptable in ANY way?

The afternoon of 11th of September, 2001. Except now, we skip the incarceration and legal prosecution part and cut straight to the execution.

Re:Planting Data? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46199035)

It isn't. This is outside GCHQ's remit. They are a SIGINT agency.

NSA Beta attack on /. community (-1, Offtopic)

LoRdTAW (99712) | about 7 months ago | (#46196819)

"...and planting data on people's systems."

So the NSA is responsible for beta?

Re: NSA Beta attack on /. community (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46198169)

"...and planting BETA on peoples systems.".

FTFY ...Oh, and FUCK da /. BETA.

Satan's laughing (0)

TempleOS (3394245) | about 7 months ago | (#46196823)

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BETA FAIL (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46196841)

I too dislike BETA. However. has it occurred to no-one that regular Slashdot could probably be made to look like BETA in about 5 minutes in CSS (Minus the fail) thus proving that a re-write is completely unnecessary. There surely must be people frequenting this site that could do the job in 5 minutes? They need to fire the people that took as long as it has taken to write something as poor as has been produced AND fire everyone who thought it would be acceptable for BETA to be rolled out to production in it's current state.

Re:BETA FAIL (0)

GoodNewsJimDotCom (2244874) | about 7 months ago | (#46196983)

They want to make the site attractive to non-technical artsy folk, since we've been doing it wrong this whole time.

Re:BETA FAIL (0)

wjwlsn (94460) | about 7 months ago | (#46197189)

They want to make the site attractive to non-technical artsy folk, since we've been doing it wrong this whole time.

You don't know how right you are...

http://slashdotmedia.com/under... [slashdotmedia.com]

Re: BETA FAIL (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46197681)

It's such a cutesy, naive version of the internet. I see no snapchat, kik, youporn, redtube, etc.

The only "product" that I share is my glorious genitals.

Re:BETA FAIL (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46198477)

Here's a sincere suggestion. If the PHBs are soooo sure that Beta is The Answer (not that anyone asked a question in the first place), then do the following:

1. Make Beta the default interface for /.

2. Leave the old interface in place at classic.slashdot.org.

And see where the traffic goes. All the longtime users, like me, will go with classic, obviously, but how well will Beta catch on with newcomers?

Let's see a little courage from the decision makers. Place your bet, and let's see how it plays out in the real world.

came here for the funny comments (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46196859)

returning less and less cos of the beta fuddy duddies. come on grandad, give it up. half the skill has left anyway going on recent 'technical' responses.

Re:came here for the funny comments (0)

richlv (778496) | about 7 months ago | (#46197067)

so anti-beta movement is successful in showing the level of disappointment :)

For some of us (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46196889)

For some of
Us
Computers
Know

Better.
Estimated
Time of
Arrival.

What did shills say about "conspiracy nutters"? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46196917)

How many times in the last twenty years did people try to warn you about the extent of operations by the establishment in the West? And how many times did the usual vile shills warn you to ignore the "tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy nutters"? Indeed, how hard did the mainstream media work to discredit anti-government types in the dramas presented to the sheeple?

Snowden has revealed that the forces of Obama and Blair go infinitely further than you might have imagined in your worst nightmares, and yet Snowden has not been allowed to even scratch the true surface of current projects that target the entire populations of nations.

-You'll hear nothing from Snowden about the inBloom project set up by Bill Gates and Rupert "Fox News" Murdoch in the USA.
-You'll hear nothing from Snowden about the creation and deployment of the NSA Kinect II spy platform in Microsoft's Xbox One console.
-You'll hear nothing from Snowden about the intimate connection between Google and the NSA.
-You'll hear nothing from Snowden about how all the 'self-driving car' nonsense is simply designed to groom the general populace to accept autonomous robotic war-machines.

Snowden is an unwilling dupe- everything he leaks was carefully vetted, and represents what is known as an "INOCULATION PLOY". Citizens of previous authoritarian regimes, like East Germany, could explain. You see, in a ruthless police state, there is no point lying to the sheeple about the nature of the world they live in. Instead, you use propaganda to remind them that everything in their life is subject to police-state interference, and they better get used to the fact.

In other words, you use aspects of the truth to inoculate them against dangerous 'concerns' about the nature of state abuses.

"Yes, of course Obama spies on us, and of course I don't like it. But what are you going to do? Computers keep getting better, and the government is always going to use the toys available to it. Our kids will be so used to it, it won't even bother them."

GET A CLUE, YOU CRETINOUS SHEEPLE. There is NOTHING to prevent the US Constitution from being amended to add fundamental Rights to Privacy that take precedence over all forms of potential pre-emptive full surveillance spying by the US government. And for the dirty dirty shills who will reply that such an amendment would hamstring the ability of the government to fight 'terrorism', let me ask you this.

DOES THE CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTION AGAINST HUMAN SLAVERY PREVENT THE GOVERNMENT FROM BEING ABLE TO SEND CONVICTED PEOPLE TO PRISON?

The shills you see flooding forums like these at Slashdot would not bother if their actions were not effective to some degree. You sheeple, no matter how highly you regard your independence of thought, hold opinions 99.9% of which match those given to you by the mainstream media outlets you so cretinously trust.

Let me ask you another question- if you are American with kids at school, what have YOU done to fight the inBloom spying operation on your children crafted by Gates and Murdoch? Have you visited your school to inform the management there that UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES may they enter data about your children into Rupert "Fox News" Murdoch's database? Of course not. They win, and will always win, because the things you CAN do as a citizen, you find every excuse under the sun to NOT do.

Re:What did shills say about "conspiracy nutters"? (0, Offtopic)

Megol (3135005) | about 7 months ago | (#46197411)

Go get medical treatment. You'll feel better and we don't have to read paranoid bullshit.

Re:What did shills say about "conspiracy nutters"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46197937)

The way things are going, frankly the GP is going to be conservative

Re:What did shills say about "conspiracy nutters"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46198321)

Their not "conspiracy nutters" they are people who perceive themselves smarter than the normal person. They are the only ones capable of understanding the world. Facts become opinions and opinions become facts. Any facts contrary to supporting their point of view is immediately dismissed as lies and anyone brave enough to challenge their "facts" are immediately called shills. The most common way to promote their conspiracy theories is to provide multiple links to web sites that contain only content that supports their reasoning. But the sites linked to are just as devoid of facts as they are. To many people have come to the conclusion that the number of "likes" on their idiotic conspiracy theories means the bullshit they spew is factual and correct.

Re:What did shills say about "conspiracy nutters"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46201099)

Go get medical treatment. You'll feel better and we don't have to read paranoid bullshit.

Governments always trend towards tyranny. That is why the constitution is written the way it is. You are operating outside of reality if you think your particular government in your particular time and place is any different on this matter. Power corrupts.

It is fact.

BETA WTF? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46196949)

BETA FEELS LIKE WINDOWS 8!

Online state terrorism (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46196959)

Does this mean the so called "good guys" are the ones engaging in the very acts they supposedly say they want to stop?

Blackmail, vigilantism, "collateral damage". It's just awesome how free our society is these days when attacks on your infrastructure are perpetuated by individuals deemed above the law. And all they can do is say "it's red Chinese!" and now we know where the real damage is coming from. Or is it Chinese that are DDOSing FreeNode?

Wow... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46197137)

GCHQ are fucking deplorable.

Re:Wow... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46197211)

GCHQ are fucking deplorable.

Not deplorable, criminals with a capital C.
Maybe France should lob a couple of nukes on that wretched island and do the world a favor.

007 (1)

aslashdotaccount (539214) | about 7 months ago | (#46197153)

Pretty sure Snowden's not the only clever person in this world. Plenty of paranoid people (including your's truly) are constantly monitoring all of their systems to make sure the authorities (amongst others) aren't snooping in. If the government was caught in the act, there are plenty of lawyers who'd take the case and make a killing. Unless of course the British government decided to call in 007 to take care of the client.

Deny, disrupt, degrade (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46197439)

It's Beta!

Typical Slashdot reader (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46197459)

You know, the typical Slashdot reader... Fat guy, not too young, ugly, insecure, spending too much time in front of a computer, no/little social life, low self-esteem but at the same time a false sense of superiority, completely awkward with girls, probably virgin, never leaves the basement, has used Linux since before Linus Torvalds...

That's really a Beta guy!

Heh heh, PENIS (1)

PenisLands (930247) | about 7 months ago | (#46197609)

Are people banned from saying "beta" now? Just wondering.

Holy shit beta. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46197971)

This is the first time ive seen the beta (direct link from rss now even?) and i thought i ended up on some blogspam site. wtf is this shit???

I feel sorry for registered users, and thats saying a lot... im just an AC and i allways will be, or maybe not if this shit doesnt die in a fire.

Snowden should be given (3)

Ralph Spoilsport (673134) | about 7 months ago | (#46198211)

a ticker tape parade and $10 million dollars. His revelations are critically important to our time. It is imperative the US Govt heed him and his supporters, on both the left and the right. Because if they continuing pulling this evil bullshit, eventually, there will be another Snowden. Only, the next Snowden might not be so nice or thoughtful.

There goes ANY child porn conviction! (4, Interesting)

jraff2 (2828801) | about 7 months ago | (#46198273)

The Government now will be the goto excuse for anyone with any type of computer hackery, virus, trojan, malwear, etc. including ilicit images and pornography. I am not to blame, the Gov.; NSA, FBI, CIA, other TLAs used "Ambassador's Reception" (http://yro.slashdot.org/story/14/02/08/1438242/snowden-docs-show-uks-digital-spies-using-viruses-honey-traps) to put it on my compuer. Prove me wrong! The Gov. reply will be some form of "we can neither confirm nor deny"... End of case,

Re:There goes ANY child porn conviction! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46201017)

The Government now will be the goto excuse for anyone with any type of computer hackery, virus, trojan, malwear, etc. including ilicit images and pornography. I am not to blame, the Gov.; NSA, FBI, CIA, other TLAs used "Ambassador's Reception" (http://yro.slashdot.org/story/14/02/08/1438242/snowden-docs-show-uks-digital-spies-using-viruses-honey-traps) to put it on my compuer. Prove me wrong! The Gov. reply will be some form of "we can neither confirm nor deny"... End of case,

Wow, the shocking, _SHOCKING_ revelation that intelligence agency A plants false information when it knows intelligence agency B is looking, leads right into CP convictions being tossed.

Are you guys really _that_ stupid?

Captcha: 'tantrum' ... awesome.

No, they will deny it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46202353)

They plant it. Something goes wrong. You end up in court. They deny planting it, obviously! Sorry you are in jail, but it's for the greater good.

Fuck BETA (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46198941)

BETA sucks! I read the answer and it's like slashdot has been taken over by politicians.

Place CP on ones computer and (1)

Ralph Ostrander (2846785) | about 7 months ago | (#46199657)

Say goodbye to them forever any means possible.

Not In Custody == Didn't Happen (0)

sethstorm (512897) | about 7 months ago | (#46199679)

Until he and/or his accomplices(including Greenwald, who may face additional charges if he attempts to sneak in under a false identity) are facing charges in a US court, none of can be taken as truth.

Taking the NSA's word is more reliable, especially when they've been more open than Snowden has been about the entire matter. The only mistake that has been made is the lack of aggressive pursuit to clean up loose ends.

Modding this down the memory hole makes it no less true.

Re:Not In Custody == Didn't Happen (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46201045)

Until he and/or his accomplices(including Greenwald, who may face additional charges if he attempts to sneak in under a false identity) are facing charges in a US court, none of can be taken as truth.

Until they are silenced, they are lying? Not only that, why is a US court the deciding factor?

Somehow facing charges is going to change the truth?

You've sure got a nice thick pair of blinders on, makes you look ridiculous.

The truth is what it is whether people are brought to justice or not. You might as well say until the NSA is dismantled they cannot be trusted. Why the double standard?

Taking the NSA's word is more reliable, especially when they've been more open than Snowden has been about the entire matter

Snowden gave us the NSA's word precisely because their word was not open. If it was not for Snowden, we would not have the NSA's word at all. Everything you have said has been a lie.

"Now he has released a new trove"? (0)

mtthwbrnd (1608651) | about 7 months ago | (#46200917)

I thought that he had handed it all over to the Guardian and that the Guardian had destroyed it all. How is "new" stuff being released by him?

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