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Online, You're Being Watched At All Times; Act Accordingly.

timothy posted about 5 months ago | from the so-act-suspicious dept.

Government 299

An anonymous reader writes "Kaspersky Lab's Internet security expert Costin Raiu discusses internet surveillance claims that you should assume that you're being watched at all times. The article reports that Raiu conducts his online activities under the assumption that his movements are being monitored by government hackers. Raiu: 'I operate under the principle that my computer is owned by at least three governments' ... 'this is not meant as a scare tactic, but a rather as a statement of fact that should now be the default setting for everyone.'"

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299 comments

Ohhh, Slashdot beta makes sense now (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206219)

They set out to build something even the government wouldn't want to watch! Mission accomplished.

Early Posts Win With Beta (-1, Offtopic)

deconfliction (3458895) | about 5 months ago | (#46206311)

MOD PARENT *BETA* (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206391)

Hey guys, I didn't read the topic, and I did not read the link posted by parent deconfliction, but I would like to take this moment to point out the necessary fact that BETA SUCKS BALLS!

Re: MOD PARENT *BETA* (0, Flamebait)

AudioEfex (637163) | about 5 months ago | (#46206887)

I wish you fucktards would stop trying to ruin this site for those of us who don't give a rats ass about these changes. You are pathetic wastes of space who cower behind "anonymous" postings. At least be a man and post under your own account so we know who the douche bag cry babies are and can avoid you once this silliness is over.

Re: MOD PARENT *BETA* (1, Interesting)

HiThere (15173) | about 5 months ago | (#46206937)

How are they supposed to let the folk who run the site know how upset they are? At least it was under the first post, which is pretty much always a throw-away.

P.S.: I may not be as upset as he is, but I'm not fan of Beta, either. I *am* currently testing it, and it's not really terrible, but that's all I can say in its favor.

P.P.S.: This is just to test how it reacts to unicode:
OK, it looks good before I post it, but it didn't show up in the preview...so now I'll post. (It was largely Greek letters.)

Re: MOD PARENT *BETA* (0)

HiThere (15173) | about 5 months ago | (#46206981)

OK, unicode still doesn't post. And loading the comments took about 5 minutes. (2 minutes the first time, 5 minutes the second time.) The posting/loading problem is an obvious bug. My suspicion is that the problem with unicode is that they just didn't fix the problem that the old slashdot had...i.e., not handling unicode.

It's a very good thing they've decided to fix some bugs before they roll this out, as it appears to currently be a very early beta. And they're wasting huge amounts of space, but that should be easy to fix, if they are so inclined.

Re: MOD PARENT *BETA* (1, Interesting)

dyingtolive (1393037) | about 5 months ago | (#46206973)

You and your 5 other counterparts are going to get lonely without us though. We worry for you.


And fuck beta.

Re:Ohhh, Slashdot beta makes sense now (-1, Troll)

Charliemopps (1157495) | about 5 months ago | (#46206435)

Actually, I like Beta.

Re:Ohhh, Slashdot beta makes sense now (4, Insightful)

deconfliction (3458895) | about 5 months ago | (#46206513)

Actually, I like Beta.

In all fairness, there are some things I like about beta, and some things I don't. I think the animosity is stemming from the apparent inflexibility on the idea of maintaining classic as an alternative indefinitely for those who prefer it. And perhaps for not fixing some things (aforementioned via direct linked historical comment) that could use fixing before deploying it on all (or even 25% of) users.

Re: Ohhh, Slashdot beta makes sense now (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206735)

I am the master beta!

Re: Ohhh, Slashdot beta makes sense now (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206825)

I am the master beta!

"Act accordingly," indeed.

color that site isn't working (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46207059)

Firefox color that site isn't working on the beta. Sure would like to dampen the bright white background.

Re:Ohhh, Slashdot beta makes sense now (5, Interesting)

Jane Q. Public (1010737) | about 5 months ago | (#46206537)

"They set out to build something even the government wouldn't want to watch! Mission accomplished."

I think this is accomplished already. They could not possibly want to "watch" everybody. You'd have more watchers than watched.

I think OP erred in saying everyone is "watched". That's simply not so. Their data may be collected, and it may be looked at later, but that's not QUITE the same thing as "being watched".

Having said that: I still despise the current situation and it does need to change.

Re:Ohhh, Slashdot beta makes sense now (1)

Runaway1956 (1322357) | about 5 months ago | (#46206977)

In a court, or a kangaroo court, the two are the same for all intents and purposes. If anything, the archives are worse, because they can be manipulated at will.

Re:Ohhh, Slashdot beta makes sense now (5, Insightful)

dyingtolive (1393037) | about 5 months ago | (#46206985)

If governmental institutions have the ability to retain the data indefinitely, and you have no way of knowing whether or not you're one of the ones being actively watched, is there a significant difference?

Help me out (1)

djupedal (584558) | about 5 months ago | (#46206239)

I can see this being valid when banking or doing a search on 'ambassador reception' posting revenge sex photos about your ex, but what about when you're just being a dick in general? Should those recognized members of society care as well? Does the govt. have an anti-prick squad yet? You know, something besides the wonks looking for donkey punch culprits.

Re:Help me out (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206353)

Oh fuck yeah, good point fuckface, well fuck you, motherfucker!

Re:Help me out (1)

djupedal (584558) | about 5 months ago | (#46206447)

Thanks - it's nice we can relax and talk online like ***ing normal people without having to worry, I guess. If push comes to shove, tho, I'm switching to commenting in Chinese.

Well, let's find out (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206469)

Let's find out if the government has an anti-prick squad...

FUCK BETA
 
... nope, I guess not.

corrination (1)

TempleOS (3394245) | about 5 months ago | (#46206241)

I expect to be corrinated at any moment.

Re:corrination (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206297)

I'm sorry?

Re:corrination (1)

Runaway1956 (1322357) | about 5 months ago | (#46206987)

Is that a process used by the aliens who carry the anal probes?

some security expert... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206255)

If this so-called security expert cannot secure his own systems, why should we trust him to begin with to hand out advice regarding security?

Also beta blows it

Re:some security expert... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206423)

If this so-called security expert cannot secure his own systems, why should we trust him to begin with to hand out advice regarding security?

Also beta blows it

If this so-called security expert cannot secure his own systems, why should we trust him to begin with to hand out advice regarding security?

Also beta blows it

Because it appears the hardware vendors sold everyone out, you really should try to keep up.
They could patch a lot of it but they possibly
A:Cant talk about it due to the NSL's
B Could but are interested in personal wealth, ie it would cost money and impact perceived investor value ( lizard speak for I want my bonus)
C Want to but afraid of A:
D Clueless

This isn't about direct supply chain subversion although that is also possible, more about known backdoors/features that have gone from theoretical vulns. to just another execution point in the 'toolkits' of the people who are exploiting.

swiss cheese is looking more solid than most trusted platforms these days.

If you cant ensure the hardware is trusted, any code you throw at it booted is liable to be unable to detect any hooks, therefore any unsecure code running on the platform is just the top layer.

Blaming someone trying to help people protect themselves, I don't know what to say.

Re:some security expert... (3, Insightful)

dreamchaser (49529) | about 5 months ago | (#46206431)

Any security expert will tell you to assume that any system you are using, even your own, is compromised, whether it is or not and regardless of whatever steps have been taken to secure it.

Source: I get paid tons of money to provide security consulting.

Re:some security expert... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206567)

If this so-called security expert cannot secure his own systems, why should we trust him to begin with to hand out advice regarding security?

That is exactly why I never take any medical advice from any doctor who is not at least 250 years old.

Dear NSA (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206257)

Nothing happened today to me personally, just for your records.

Signed someone not important at all.

Re:Dear NSA (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206349)

You miss the point. It does not MATTER if you are "important" or not. Seriously consider the implications of a total surveillance state.

Re:Dear NSA (4, Funny)

just_a_monkey (1004343) | about 5 months ago | (#46206399)

Finally, we'll all be safe. Finally.

Re:Dear NSA (2)

Runaway1956 (1322357) | about 5 months ago | (#46206999)

Hooray for the Morlocks!

Re:Dear NSA (5, Insightful)

Dunbal (464142) | about 5 months ago | (#46206407)

Exactly. It's not the fact that you may or may not be watched right now, it's the fact that everything you do and say can and will be used against you in the future whenever it's convenient, politically or otherwise. I keep quoting this, maybe one day people will actually realize what it means: "If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him." --Richelieu

Very true, but we can try to make the best of it (4)

Paul Fernhout (109597) | about 5 months ago | (#46206531)

As I suggest here: http://www.pdfernhout.net/on-d... [pdfernhout.net]
"Our biggest advantage is that no one takes us seriously. :-)
        And our second biggest advantage is that our communications are monitored, which provides a channel by which we can turn enemies into friends. :-)
        And our third biggest advantage is we have no assets, and so are not a profitable target and have nothing serious to fight over amongst ourselves. :-)
        Let's hope those advantages all hold true for a long time. :-) ...
    As I see it, there is a race going on. The race is between two trends. On the one hand, the internet can be used to profile and round up dissenters to the scarcity-based economic status quo (thus legitimate worries about privacy and something like TIA). On the other hand, the internet can be used to change the status quo in various ways (better designs, better science, stronger social networks advocating for things like a basic income, all supported by better structured arguments like with the Genoa II approach) to the point where there is abundance for all and rounding up dissenters to mainstream economics is a non-issue because material abundance is everywhere. So, as Bucky Fuller said, whether is will be Utopia or Oblivion will be a touch-and-go relay race to the very end. While I can't guarantee success at the second option of using the internet for abundance for all, I can guarantee that if we do nothing, the first option of using the internet to round up dissenters (or really, anybody who is different, like was done using IBM computers in WWII Germany) will probably prevail. So, I feel the global public really needs access to these sorts of sensemaking tools in an open source way, and the way to use them is not so much to "fight back" as to "transform and/or transcend the system". As Bucky Fuller said, you never change thing by fighting the old paradigm directly; you change things by inventing a new way that makes the old paradigm obsolete. ...
    As with that notion of "mutual security", the US intelligence community needs to look beyond seeing an intelligence tool as just something proprietary that gives a "friendly" analyst some advantage over an "unfriendly" analyst. Instead, the intelligence community could begin to see the potential for a free and open source intelligence tool as a way to promote "friendship" across the planet by dispelling some of the gloom of "want and ignorance" (see the scene in "A Christmas Carol" with Scrooge and a Christmas Spirit) that we still have all too much of around the planet. So, beyond supporting legitimate US intelligence needs (useful with their own closed sources of data), supporting a free and open source intelligence tool (and related open datasets) could become a strategic part of US (or other nation's) "diplomacy" and constructive outreach."

Re:Very true, but we can try to make the best of i (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206791)

wat

Re: Dear NSA (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206619)

If the government can monitor all computers all the time, why did they let Beta happen?

Re:Dear NSA (2)

ganjadude (952775) | about 5 months ago | (#46206849)

say you are a high schooler, you post some nudes, or send them to your boyfriend girlfriend.

Now lets pretend its 30 years later and you want to run for office, well guess what the other party, or people who want to run against you in your own part will have access to that information to use against you.

Re:Dear NSA (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206947)

You're on Slashdot. I'm on Slashdot. I replied to your post. I'm a member of the rebellion. We have a relationship. The protocol was written by some hack and neglects to bother seeing if you replied. You're called in for questioning. They use a polygraph. You're nervous because you've been flirting with a woman in the office. Nothing has come of it, and if you told your wife that's as far as it went she'd get mad for a few days and that'd be it. You're nervous. You flunk the poly badly. There's enhanced interrogation, they you're "put in holding" for a while. They forget about you. Conditions are terrible. You catch what's going around in the prison. Health care sucks there. You die of something that really shouldn't kill you. At least dehydration is relatively merciful compared to what the guy in the next cell experienced. His screams haunted you the last few months of your life.

Big deal (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206259)

They can find the same porn on hundreds of websites.

Time to get dirty (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206261)

I guess this is the right place to ask for some porn site links to make these hackers watching me very interested on the links, so they leave the rest of my stuff alone, or disgusted enough to leave me alone forever.

Fuck Beta (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206269)

The Slashdot content/comment quality is dropping fast.

Also, Fuck Beta.

Lick My Sack, .gov! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206271)

Time to look at midget scat vore bondage balloon pr0n.

So be sure to surf as "unethically" as possible. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206277)

If everyone is evil, they have nobody to zero in on.

BOYCOTT STARTS NOW (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206281)

Join the Slashcott --- 10 February through 17 February GMT, 2014

Fuck Beta!

Re:BOYCOTT STARTS NOW (4, Insightful)

fisted (2295862) | about 5 months ago | (#46206335)

mod parent up. i'm outa here, see ya in a week (or not). -logs out

Re:BOYCOTT STARTS NOW (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206857)

You'll be back within 24 hours...
It's an addiction.

Re:BOYCOTT STARTS NOW (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46207015)

THE AUDIENCE HAS SPOKEN!

Nuclear weapons DO NOT EXIST (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206283)

It was all a psyop hoax to halt soviet advance in East Asia and Europe, which US/UK military might could not do alone.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki were simply carpet bombed with incendiary ordnance just as some 60+ other Japanese cities in WW2.

That's the jist.

Your only escape... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206291)

...is choosing to remain inconsequential.

Otherwise, anything dodgy you've done will be discovered, perhaps after being fabricated.

So it has always been when the powerful are threatened.

A Perfect Defense (5, Insightful)

Jim Sadler (3430529) | about 5 months ago | (#46206313)

Anyone accused of using a computer for illegal purposes now has a perfect defense. After all if credentialed experts believe that computers are controlled by the numerous people of several governments then there has to be hard proof that the doer was the one who took those actions on his PC.

Re:A Perfect Defense (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206599)

Anyone accused of using a computer for illegal purposes now has a perfect defense. After all if credentialed experts believe that computers are controlled by the numerous people of several governments then there has to be hard proof that the doer was the one who took those actions on his PC.

You would have to have a terminal case of Asperger's syndrome to believe that any judge or jury would even bother to consider the above without overwhelming corroborating evidence.

PROTIP: Unlike a compiler, people can tell when you're BSing them.

Re:A Perfect Defense (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206767)

Your logical arguments will simply be ignored in favor of the desired verdict.

Re:A Perfect Defense (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206863)

In which case that becomes a kangaroo court.

Nuclear weapons DON'T EXIST (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206321)

It was all a psyop hoax to halt soviet advance in East Asia and Europe, which US/UK military might could not do alone.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki were simply carpet bombed with incendiary ordnance just as some 60+ other Japanese cities in WW2.
 

Most likely they are pwned by NSA (1)

n3r0.m4dski11z (447312) | about 5 months ago | (#46206327)

Kaspersky is a horrid software. Hard to uninstall, lots of problems in a domain environment. We thankfull ditched it this year after multiple screwups last year including when client updates caused a significant precentange of machines to slow down or not talk to the network. Took them two months to fix that.

So I am not surprised if he is admitting in a round-a-bout way, that they are hacked by the NSA. You load spyware into products, it causes problems - more bugs. I wouldn't be surprised.

Re:Most likely they are pwned by NSA (4, Insightful)

Charliemopps (1157495) | about 5 months ago | (#46206479)

Anecdotal evidence is usually not all that useful. Real statistics are more reliable: http://chart.av-comparatives.o... [av-comparatives.org]

Re:Most likely they are pwned by NSA (1)

zippthorne (748122) | about 5 months ago | (#46206801)

Where's ClamAV?

Lurker Here (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206357)

I'm sick of seeing posts about the beta.

lurk moar (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206383)

fuck beta

Re:Lurker Here (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206393)

I just wish they would get the hint and turn beta off..

Re:Lurker Here (3, Informative)

foobar bazbot (3352433) | about 5 months ago | (#46206403)

I'm sick of seeing posts about the beta.

Well, then, it's your lucky day! Starting in 4 hours and change, a lot of us from the USA will be leaving /. and making no more anti-beta posts for a week! (The Europeans and UTC hardliners everywhere have already left.) Enjoy your week...

--------------------

Please post this to new articles if it hasn't been posted yet. (Copy-paste the html from here [pastebin.com] so links don't get mangled!)

On February 5, 2014, Slashdot announced through a javascript popup that they are starting to "move in to" the new Slashdot Beta design. Slashdot Beta is a trend-following attempt to give Slashdot a fresh look, an approach that has led to less space for text and an abandonment of the traditional Slashdot look. Much worse than that, Slashdot Beta fundamentally breaks the classic Slashdot discussion and moderation system.

If you haven't seen Slashdot Beta already, open this [slashdot.org] in a new tab. After seeing that, click here [slashdot.org] to return to classic Slashdot.

We should boycott stories and only discuss the abomination that is Slashdot Beta until Dice abandons the project.
We should boycott slashdot entirely during the week of Feb 10 to Feb 17 as part of the wider slashcott [slashdot.org]

Moderators - only spend mod points on comments that discuss Beta
Commentors - only discuss Beta
  http://slashdot.org/recent [slashdot.org] - Vote up the Fuck Beta stories

Keep this up for a few days and we may finally get the PHBs attention.

-----=====##### LINKS #####=====-----

Discussion of Beta: http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&id=56395415 [slashdot.org]

Discussion of where to go if Beta goes live: http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&type=submission&id=3321441 [slashdot.org]

Alternative Slashdot: http://altslashdot.org [altslashdot.org] (thanks Okian Warrior (537106) [slashdot.org] )

Re:Lurker Here (3, Funny)

ChunderDownunder (709234) | about 5 months ago | (#46206603)

a lot of us from the USA will be leaving /. and making no more anti-beta posts for a week!

A whole week without a bunch of whiny Americans? Bliss! :-)

Re:Lurker Here (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206699)

...Starting in 4 hours and change, a lot of us from the USA will be leaving /. and making no more anti-beta posts for a week

Well the rest of us sure as fuck wish you childish morons would just get on with it and leave.

Not a Lurker Here (1)

rts008 (812749) | about 5 months ago | (#46206557)

I'm sick of seeing posts about the beta.

I'm sick of seeing posts about the posts about beta.

But don't dismay, after tonight, you will get a break, as most of us(complaining about the beta) will be gone for a week....some for good.

Maybe you AC's can compare recordings of crickets chirping when we are gone. Maybe you will celebrate...who knows?(better yet, who cares?)

I normally do not reply to AC's, but this was too good of an opportunity to bash the beta! :-)

So, AC, thank you for that convenient opening!

Re:Not a Lurker Here (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206671)

I'm not a fan of beta either, but the amount of entitlement coming from the regs here is ridiculous. This is a free (as in beer) service and nobody volunteers to do any of the coding or back end site maintenance either. Businesses, non-profits, and projects change direction all the time; if they don't they're basically admitting that nobody much cares about what they do. Occasionally there are some posts with thoughtful criticism but for the most part it's fuck this, boycott that, I'm gone etc. etc. It's disgusting and serves as a reminder of how juvenile and anti-social a large fraction of Slashdot readership is.

Re:Not a Lurker Here (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206775)

This is a free (as in beer) service

Well when you go pissing in the free beer, what the fuck do you expect to happen?

The 'Oh but it's free!" bullshit excuse for fucking up something that's perfectly fine if left alone is way over-used, and elicits no sympathy from me.

Fuck Beta.

Re: Lurker Here (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206657)

Right. I'm viewing the mobile site, so I don't see anything different except the quality of comments have been terrible recently. Looking forward to the boycott just so the quality goes back up.

Re:Lurker Here (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206679)

You should start using the beta then. You'll have rotten luck trying to find any posts at all.

Re:Lurker Here (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206845)

I'm sick of seeing posts about the beta.

All the beta males who post on-topic comments on this story are in need of beta blockers.

Slashcott starts now so mod me the fuck down beta-bitches!

Also; Fuck Beta!

just use public wifi (1)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | about 5 months ago | (#46206363)

and people who own the join offering it are the ones on the hook.

Don't miss the point of this please. (4, Interesting)

DoninIN (115418) | about 5 months ago | (#46206369)

We started off with at least the half hearted assumption that this was the case, then the web and the net went mainstream. Society assumed our paranoia was irrational and silly. It might have been for a bit, but it clearly wasn't in the long run. One of the assumptions we made in the interim and that many folks still make is that, "There aren't enough watchers to watch every one of us" or "They might have access to my e-mail, text and data but they don't have enough people to read each and every one of those things" because we the people society at large, just don't get technology, even those of us who do, Watson super-computing and the Google search algorithm can be applied to you and I our behavior associations and the possibility that we will do something bad in the future... BUT brothers and sisters nevermind that, think for a moment of the possibility that those in charge, or some of them, with access to the spying they might use this access to do something bad, like leak secret e-mails from a popular Governor, that show he closed a bridge, or those who work for him did, as some sort of act of dickery, and so we catch him lying about it, and thus remove the threat of him becoming president... Really... Don't tell me why he is in fact a dick.. he probably is, I could care less, the idea is those with access to the NSA cloud can decide who is in and who is out in terms of eligibility for admission to the public sphere.

Re:Don't miss the point of this please. (1)

OhANameWhatName (2688401) | about 5 months ago | (#46206593)

those with access to the NSA cloud can decide who is in and who is out in terms of eligibility for admission to the public sphere

Welcome to reality, please take your voting ballot and move to the second door on the right.

Re:Don't miss the point of this please. (1)

DoninIN (115418) | about 5 months ago | (#46206693)

And choose from one of the two folks selected by the elite to represent you.

Re:Don't miss the point of this please. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206731)

total BS -- Christy's outing has nothing to do with the NSA. someone just forwarded some emailed they received to save their ass from jail.

maybe someday the NSA will get involved, but so far it hasn't really happened.

Re:Don't miss the point of this please. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206989)

"... can decide who is in and who is out in terms of eligibility for admission to the public sphere."

Sounds oddly familiar.

(Audio CAPTCHA: suffer)

Civil disobedience (1)

Dunbal (464142) | about 5 months ago | (#46206389)

Yes well if we were all willful sheep who never question and always follow the herd, I'm sure some people would like that - it would make their job easy for them. Too bad some of those sheep just keep jumping the fence, huh?

Re:Civil disobedience (1)

halcyon1234 (834388) | about 5 months ago | (#46206449)

The nose. Your post is on it. I approve.

Being watched - flipbird accordingly (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206415)

Before my finger touches the keyboard to log in, I flip it to the webcam.

No surprise for anyone with a clue.... (4, Insightful)

rts008 (812749) | about 5 months ago | (#46206477)

I've always treated 'online' the same as postcards.
Anything else was/is naive, and this was apparent to anyone that actually understood networks, and 'online'.

Where the problem stems from, is 'security solutions' being added in after the fact. It(the internet) was touted as 'the Information Highway' for a reason...it was.
It was never touted as 'the Secure Information Highway', and when commercialization hit the 'Information Highway', that did not change.

This subject(internet security) is the poster child of unintended consequences.

There are ways of doing business/secure transactions with networks, but it seems no one wants to spend the effort or $$ required to do so.
Until that attitude changes, this kind of 'news' will be a regular, ongoing event. Convenience will trump security anytime money is involved...look at history for supporting evidence.

then i guess the NSA knows... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206569)

how much the beta sucks!

FUCK BETA (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206581)

not even reading this article anymore jesus christ

Please Read Before Modding Down (4, Insightful)

rueger (210566) | about 5 months ago | (#46206583)

by emmagsachs (1024119) Alter Relationship on Sunday February 09, 2014 @12:58PM(#46205013) [slashdot.org] I have visited this website on a near-daily basis for over a decade. I have greatly benefited from its community, whether +5 Insightful or -1 Troll. It thus saddens me to watch Slashdot be changed into a bland, cookie-cutter news site, a la the present incarnations of Engadget and Digg. I am perhaps in the minority in this, but I kindly urge you to read this post, and others like it, and to consider joining the week-long Slashcott [slashcott.com] that begins on Feb 10th. I realize that posting off-topic comments such as this is disrupting the Slashdot experience for many of you, and I do apologize for it. But can you honestly say that the new Beta interface does not already disrupt Slashdot for all of us? These anti-Beta posts can quite rightly be viewed as "a series of shock slogans and mindless token tantrums", to borrow a phrase, but since we feel that we are ignored by Dice, this is the best that I, like many other slashdotters, could come up with.

What company directs 25% of its users to a partially-working, not-ready-for-production website? Please realize that Beta will not have the features that we want, because they interfere with Dice's plans for Slashdot. Dice presents Slashdot to their advertisers as a "Social Media for B2B Technology" [slashdotmedia.com] platform. B2B - that's the reason Beta looks like a generic wordpress-based news site. To be sure, a large precentage of Slashdotters work in IT, but Slashdot is most certainly not a B2B site.

Nevertheless, Dice is desperate to make money off of Slashdot, even at the cost of losing much of its current userbase. Turning Slashdot into a social platform for IT "decision makers" is a Haily Mary attempt to recoup the failed investment Dice made in buying Slashdot. As they have revealed in a press release [diceholdingsinc.com] detailing their performance in 2013, this acquisition has not lived up to their financial expectations:

Slashdot Media was acquired to provide content and services that are important to technology professionals in their everyday work lives and to leverage that reach into the global technology community benefiting user engagement on the Dice.com site. The expected benefits have started to be realized at Dice.com. However, advertising revenue has declined over the past year and there is no improvement expected in the future financial performance of Slashdot Media's underlying advertising business. Therefore, $7.2 million of intangible assets and $6.3 million of goodwill related to Slashdot Media were reduced to zero.

The new Beta interface is not the result of a superficial makeover. Keeping in mind that Dice felt confident enough to present it as the new face of Slashdot to 25% of its visitors, it is safe to say that the new commenting and moderation system is exactly how they intended it to be. It is a new design that deliberately cripples the one thing that makes Slashdot what it is today, viz. thebest commenting and moderation system online today. From the users' perspective, there is nothing wrong with Slashdot that demands gutting its foundations and dumping the one part of Slashdot we exactly like. As others have commented, this is an attempt to monetize /. at any any cost [slashdot.org], and its users be damned. Dice views its users, the ones who create the site [slashdot.org], as a passive audience. As such, it is interchangeable with its intended B2B crowd. We, the current users of Slashdot, are an obstacle in Dice's way.

This is why they ignore the detailed feedback we have given them in the months since Beta was first revealed. This is also why they now disregard our grievances and complaints. Their claims of hearing us are a deliberate snow job. It is only pretense, since at the same time they openly admit that Classic will be cancelled soon [slashdot.org]:

"Most importantly, we want you to know that Classic Slashdot isn't going away until we're confident that the new site is ready.

There is a reason [slashdotmedia.com] why "News for Nerds, stuff that matters" no longer appears in the header:

Slashdot Media’s brands include Slashdot and SourceForge. These technology sites provide access to tools, software and forums for enterprise IT professionals working in all industries and companies from the world’s largest to small and medium-sized firms. Slashdot and SourceForge harness the power of social that no other tech site can compete with.

Slashdot Media provides its partners with proven integrated media strategies to effectively influence technology buyers. With over 15 years experience working with the largest and most engaged professional technology communities, Slashdot Media’s expert staff continues to contribute to the success of its partners branding, demand generation, and social media marketing programs.

Don't hold your breath waiting for Dice to fix Beta. Their vision of Slashdot is a crippled shadow of the site as it is today. Don't let them pull the wool over your eyes. Dice doesn't need us. And If you do decide to boycott /. for a week, please resist the urge to visit it just to see how the boycott is doing [slashdot.org]...

Re:Please Read Before Modding Down (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206727)

you people bitch way too much.

stop the beta whining (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206743)

please, stop posting this. has anybody noticed that the WORST side effect of Beta is ALL THE PEOPLE POSTING ABOUT BETA in every single page?

I get it. Your undies are distressed. check. let's all move on now. If Slashdot is so stupid as to throw away everything, then so be it. whatever.

in the meantime, please don't be the reason people stop posting and turn this into nothing but beta whining.

They want you to think you're watched and give up (4, Insightful)

davecb (6526) | about 5 months ago | (#46206585)

This is a standard trope in every epic novel from middle-earth to outer space: the bad guys want you to hunker down. To hell with that!

Smiert Spionam!

A possible solution (2)

TheloniousToady (3343045) | about 5 months ago | (#46206745)

The article reports that Raiu conducts his online activities under the assumption that his movements are being monitored by government hackers.

I recommend you begin to conduct all your online activities in such an empty, sugary sweet, and flavorless way that who have regularly surveilled you for years completely lose all interest in you and instead begin focusing their attention on other online targets. Let's call this strategy...I dunno..."Security by New Coke".

God watches them. They are fucked. (1)

TempleOS (3394245) | about 5 months ago | (#46206759)

God says... beclouded fully miseries recently flowers burning powers wit ceased replied hark Entrust union pangs offices

HOWTO protect yourself. (0)

gavron (1300111) | about 5 months ago | (#46206769)

1. Either build your new system yourself from retail purchased parts, or acquire a used laptop locally. In other words, you go give money and get a machine, not have someone send it to you where it might be intercepted or modified. YOU pick the hardware seller randomly and then YOU take it home unintercepted.

2. This is the part that hurts. Lock your machine PHYSICALLY so nobody can mess with it without making it obvious. I recommend a BIOS-PASSWORD, and then epoxy the case so nobody can mess with the chips without you knowing about it.

3. Lock the operating system down so that nobody can enter single-user mode, or boot from alternate devices. I recommend whole-disk encryption, disabling single-user-mode or rescue mode, and eliminating the bootloader menu (I use GRUB, but the concept carries over).

4. Lock the privileged access so that nobody can execute privileged commands, load drivers, etc. unless IT'S REALLY YOU doing it NOT UNDER DURESS. That means have alternatives so if there's a gun or warrant to your head you can appear to be cooperative but the end result is less useful for the villain.

5. Once you have a configuration you like, consider it LOCKED, STATIC, FROZEN, and do not update operating system components, drivers, applications, etc. If you install new applications ensure you trust the source.

FINALLY, now that you have the hardware and software set, realize that you're still emitting lots of data whether screen, network, audio, etc. ENSURE that ALL your outside access is encrypted. If you're able to, route it through a VPN or TOR. You may think "Oh I don't need to encrypt everything... I'll just use the web normally for nonsensitive stuff." This is a fallacy. It both shows what you DON'T put out publicly (black box take shape the more you do public stuff but then don't do some stuff publicly) and it removes your ability to claim that encrypting is not purposefully deceptive, because --as you should-- you encrypt everything.

Also you've probably figured this out by now... but the COSTS to this security may include your destroying the device if it either fails to boot or appears to have been taken over or opened. It's a high cost in dollars, but it keeps your security absolute.

Ok, there's one more thing. Don't be a dipshit and enter in privileged passwords anywhere where someone is using a cellphone camera, Google Glass, or security cams are in play. It's not like "everyone" has those magic keep-zooming-forever-on-stored-video-because-resolution-is-unlimited cameras, but you don't know who does and who doesn't. If someone really wants your root or administrative password and they think you're gun/warrant proof, a few hidden spy cams are nothing in comparison.

Ehud

That Palin Thing says: (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206811)

"How's that 'hopey-changey' stuff workin' out for ya?"

:: winks ::

:: snaps gum ::

Where to get info on Slashdot's demise? (0)

oRCAD Monkey (1867884) | about 5 months ago | (#46206813)

Where to go to get updates on the demise of Slashdot during the next 7 days?

I don't want to contribute to hits on the site.

I have a login at the Green Biscuit place But all they discuss is the futures plans for the new site.

Also, I just noticed that the last 33 articles on Slashdot since Friday evening have been posted by Timothy, no other posters.

Fucking Spying Dickheads (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206851)

Fuck you spying dickheads

VPN services (1, Offtopic)

neo8750 (566137) | about 5 months ago | (#46206853)

So is there someone/place out there that runs checks on the VPN providers to be sure they arent just a honeypot ? If so where would one find such a place?

Netcrime (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206879)

It was terribly dangerous to let your thoughts wander when you were in any public place or within range of the internet. The smallest thing could give you away. A nervous tic, an unconscious look of anxiety, a habit of muttering to yourself -- anything that carried with it the suggestion of abnormality, of having something to hide. In any case, to wear an improper expression on your face (to look incredulous when a victory was announced, for example) was itself a punishable offence. There was even a word for it in Newspeak: netcrime, it was called.

I had a feeling that was true all along (0)

FudRucker (866063) | about 5 months ago | (#46206889)

thats why I never took the internet too seriously

Stop the information embargo now! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206915)

We are probably under surveillance most of the time but it gets actually worse then that and its not from your friendly governments, this time its grays and they tall masters.

If three letter agency is looking for you, you actually have some chance to escape but in the case of your friendly grays you may have chances to delay it by maybe few seconds and that's if you are actually lucky. So don't complain that you have no say because if you are chosen, then my friend, anal probing will happen if you want or not. And there is nothing that anyone could do to stop that.

You see, all those talks about NSA this CIA that, beta suck, won't really matter in the long run. We shall start revolution but it's not what you are thinking, what really should happen now is to finally start telling people what really is happening on this planet, stop the information embargo now!

Expectation of privacy (0)

manu0601 (2221348) | about 5 months ago | (#46206923)

If we endorse that point of view, government will now claim in court that we cannot have expectation of privacy when we used Internet.

Watched all the time (0)

raarts (5057) | about 5 months ago | (#46206925)

When I am on the street, I should assume being watched all the time.

When I am in a mall, I am being watched all the time

When I am in the airport, I am being watched all the time

When I am in a stadium, I am being watched all the time

When I am in a store, I must assume I am being watched all the time

When I am online, I should assume being watched all the time.

See you (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206929)

in a week. It will be hard to do.

And I looked, and behold a pale horse: (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46206931)

and his name that sat on him was Beta, and comment Hell followed with him.

Here's how I'd react to this if it were 100% true: (4, Insightful)

kheldan (1460303) | about 5 months ago | (#46206997)

Turn off computer. Call and cancel internet service. Spend internet money on more books to read. /thread

No comment. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#46207039)

Looks like I picked the wrong day to quit: 1)smoking, 2) amphetamines, 3)sniffing airplane glue, 4) Slashdot Beta, 5) Tranny Porn.

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