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GCHQ Intercepted Webcam Images of Millions of Yahoo Users

Unknown Lamer posted about 10 months ago | from the in-case-any-of-them-run-for-office dept.

Privacy 137

An anonymous reader writes with more chilling news from the Snowden files. Quoting the Guardian: "GCHQ files dating between 2008 and 2010 explicitly state that a surveillance program codenamed Optic Nerve collected still images of Yahoo webcam chats in bulk and saved them to agency databases, regardless of whether individual users were an intelligence target or not. ... The system, eerily reminiscent of the telescreens evoked in George Orwell's 1984, was used for experiments in automated facial recognition, to monitor GCHQ's existing targets, and to discover new targets of interest. Such searches could be used to try to find terror suspects or criminals making use of multiple, anonymous user IDs." Remember, friends don't video conference with friends unless they're using SIP and TLS.

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Hey, GCHQ and NSA ... (4, Funny)

gstoddart (321705) | about 10 months ago | (#46360519)

How many fingers am I holding up now?

Re:Hey, GCHQ and NSA ... (5, Funny)

SpankiMonki (3493987) | about 10 months ago | (#46360711)

How many fingers am I holding up now?

Don't know about you, but I'm holding up one.

Re:Hey, GCHQ and NSA ... (1)

gstoddart (321705) | about 10 months ago | (#46360779)

Guess it depends on which side of the pond you're on.

The left side is one, the right side is two for more or less the same thing.

Unless it's something else you're holding up.

Re:Hey, GCHQ and NSA ... (4, Interesting)

Thud457 (234763) | about 10 months ago | (#46360717)

GHQ collected child porn

Re:Hey, GCHQ and NSA ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#46361253)

Two.

Re:Hey, GCHQ and NSA ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#46362179)

Good guess but wrong thats not a finger!

And if you sue them... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#46362739)

And if you sue them for collecting Porn (child or otherwise), they'll say they need to hold onto it forever for courts. Despicable. Zero out their budget

Blackmail pool (3, Insightful)

BSAtHome (455370) | about 10 months ago | (#46360539)

Unfortunately, now they have a very nice pool of information/images to blackmail the persons(s) displayed. What a treasure that must be for the agencies. How better control the populous than dirty tricks.

Maybe we should start collecting the like info on the agencies?

Re:Blackmail pool (4, Insightful)

noh8rz10 (2716597) | about 10 months ago | (#46360701)

Doesn't matter. I bet gchq and NSA are super stoked about google glass.

Re:Blackmail pool (4, Insightful)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about 10 months ago | (#46360727)

There will be one potential issue: Did they score some sweet, sweet, incriminating footage of Inconvenient Politician confessing his love of grits wrasslin' and anal twincest? Yeah, probably. However, it doesn't take a PhD in teenagerology to suspect that Her Majesty's Wiretapping Crew are now sitting on one of the largest collections of illegal kiddie porn on the planet. And the kiddies are, on the whole, the unsuspecting children of the taxpayers of the UK. If the British tabloid press is anything to go by, they like (non clerical) pedos even less than we do on this side of the pond.

As much fun as it will be to...encourage...an MP or two to take a more understanding position (just like somebody other than his wife did, and we have pictures, hint hint), I wouldn't really want to be on the receiving end of the entire population of the UK suspecting that I'm hoarding kiddie porn based on their children. If the black-bag crew are really unlucky, whatever 'license to do whatever the fuck you want, because terroristsOMG!!!' law(s) and set of interpretations may not even have considered an idea this audacious. As much as Clapper is a lying fuckwad, his 'Oh, mere metadata' driven sounds convincing, if you don't know what metadata are, or how useful they are. "Yup, hot, definitely not yet legal, naked pictures of your innocent children", by contrast, isn't even good PR, no matter how you spin it.

Re:Blackmail pool (2)

oodaloop (1229816) | about 10 months ago | (#46361835)

They almost certainly did think of that, and they almost certainly have a waiver that allows them to retain that data. I am not familiar with this program, but I am familiar with others. (IAA Intelligence Analyst)

Re:Blackmail pool (1)

Hognoxious (631665) | about 10 months ago | (#46362039)

How better control the populous

Adjective found, related noun missing. Bailing out near line 7.

I hope they got mine! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#46360545)

I wonder what the sticky side of electrical tape looks like?

Re:I hope they got mine! (2)

AmiMoJo (196126) | about 10 months ago | (#46360597)

I wonder how well facial recognition works on wank face.

Re:I hope they got mine! (1)

gstoddart (321705) | about 10 months ago | (#46360699)

Well, your eyes are still at the same position in your head (even if crossed), your cheek bones haven't moved, the bridge of your nose and placement of your ears hasn't changed ...

I seriously doubt your O-face makes a huge difference in facial recognition.

Re:I hope they got mine! (1)

SpankiMonki (3493987) | about 10 months ago | (#46360805)

I seriously doubt your O-face makes a huge difference in facial recognition.

It might if you're wearing a S&M gag. Or so I've heard.

Re:I hope they got mine! (1)

larry bagina (561269) | about 10 months ago | (#46360833)

... or covered in shit.

Chatroulette Failed (5, Funny)

number17 (952777) | about 10 months ago | (#46360551)

They first tried this experiment with Chatroulette only to find that the facial recognition software didn't work with cam pointed below the waist.

Re:Chatroulette Failed (2)

gstoddart (321705) | about 10 months ago | (#46360603)

They first tried this experiment with Chatroulette only to find that the facial recognition software didn't work with cam pointed below the waist.

It did, however, create the new discipline of schmeckle recognition, which shows long-term promise in some areas.

Re:Chatroulette Failed (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#46360977)

The truth is even funnier.

The document estimates that between 3% and 11% of the Yahoo webcam imagery harvested by GCHQ contains "undesirable nudity". Discussing efforts to make the interface "safer to use", it noted that current "naïve" pornography detectors assessed the amount of flesh in any given shot, and so attracted lots of false positives by incorrectly tagging shots of people's faces as pornography.

The porn filter filtered out the faces, which was exactly what they wanted to capture. Brilliant!

Re:Chatroulette Failed (5, Funny)

jolyonr (560227) | about 10 months ago | (#46361289)

The document estimates that between 3% and 11% of the Yahoo webcam imagery harvested by GCHQ contains "undesirable nudity".

But what percentage was desirable nudity?

Re:Chatroulette Failed (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#46362783)

Between 89% and 97%...

However.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#46361205)

However, they did see a significant improvement in gender recognition performance.

Re:However.. (1)

bob_super (3391281) | about 10 months ago | (#46362509)

Considering what many women are operating in front of their webcam, that's pretty good software.
Does it tell the brand too?

Re:Chatroulette Failed (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#46361409)

They first tried this experiment with Chatroulette only to find that the facial recognition software didn't work with cam pointed below the waist.

Hey, you may just have given me my next company idea.

I'm sure I can sell CRS (Crotchal Recognition Software) to the intelligence agencies...

no no, Batman was causing problems (4, Funny)

SuperBanana (662181) | about 10 months ago | (#46361449)

No, their software kept getting confused from Batman [youtube.com] .

(I promise, SFW, not a rickroll, etc. Just a guy with a Batman costume blowing some minds on CR.)

Sure. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#46360563)

1984? Sure. And Snowden is Emmanuel Goldstein.

think of the children! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#46360577)

Fact: They have a large collection of kiddie porn.

The home of 1984? Really? (5, Insightful)

zerosomething (1353609) | about 10 months ago | (#46360587)

How is it that the home country of the author of 1984 just doesn't get it? How is it they are letting this kind of thing go on? It's truly amazing and sad!

Re:The home of 1984? Really? (5, Insightful)

gstoddart (321705) | about 10 months ago | (#46360857)

How is it that the home country of the author of 1984 just doesn't get it?

They've been treating it as a manual, instead of as a warning.

Re:The home of 1984? Really? (4, Insightful)

gstoddart (321705) | about 10 months ago | (#46361027)

And, in fairness, you can ask how the home country of The Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution could also be going down the same road.

This isn't limited to the Brits.

Re:The home of 1984? Really? (1)

zerosomething (1353609) | about 10 months ago | (#46361057)

And, in fairness, you can ask how the home country of The Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution could also be going down the same road.

This isn't limited to the Brits.

ABSOLUTELY!

Re:The home of 1984? Really? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#46361277)

This isn't limited to the Brits.

No one claimed otherwise.

Re:The home of 1984? Really? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#46362177)

That's original, you fat cunt.

Re:The home of 1984? Really? (1)

jellomizer (103300) | about 10 months ago | (#46360885)

This isn't like 1984. They had much bigger TV's. The small ones are like our current big TV.

Re:The home of 1984? Really? (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Brave Guy (457657) | about 10 months ago | (#46360887)

How is it that the home country of the author of 1984 just doesn't get it?

Plenty of us get it. Please remember that at no point did the general population of the UK ask for, support or condone this kind of behaviour, nor most of the other dubious things we've been hearing about lately that have supposedly been done in our name or for our protection.

Also, the previous administration went from being elected on a technicality with a heavy majority of the population not supporting them to having a leader who everyone was promised at the election wouldn't take over if they voted for the party in question. And obviously nobody directly elected the current coalition administration, which doesn't even seem to be able to honour what it said it would do in the coalition agreement upon which it was founded consistently, never mind what was in the manifestos of the two constituent parties that people actually voted for.

The last time we actually had anything resembling a government with a mandate in this country was nearly a decade ago, and they were the guys who then went to war, despite literally millions of people marching in the street to protest the decision, based on little more than trumped up rhetoric that proved to be every bit as made up as most of us always assumed it was.

How is it they are letting this kind of thing go on?

We demonstrably don't live in an effectively functioning democracy, by any credible definition of the term. Unfortunately, the political class have got very good at playing the game by the rules that currently exist and go to great lengths to avoid allowing those rules to change. Short of actually bringing down the government and replacing the system, hopefully in a non-violent way, this seems unlikely to change any time soon.

As long as we have that limited system, a handful of big issues will inevitably dominate the one vote we get every five years or so, and there are way too many people who are (reasonably enough) more concerned with things like not having their homes flooded or whether they can get their kids into a good school or whether the grandparents will get proper treatment if they have to go into hospital for those of us who also consider points of principle when voting to have a significant impact.

Re:The home of 1984? Really? (1)

zerosomething (1353609) | about 10 months ago | (#46361261)

How is it that the home country of the author of 1984 just doesn't get it?

Plenty of us get it. Please remember that at no point did the general population of the UK ask for, support or condone this kind of behaviour, nor most of the other dubious things we've been hearing about lately that have supposedly been done in our name or for our protection.

Unfortunately most of you/us did vote for the "political class", unless you just didn't vote and that's worse. Way too many people think their large political party of choice is going to "give them their fair share", or will make things "more equal" for this or that class. The "political class" of your major party will always make it "more equal" for the pigs, so stop perpetuating the party that want's to make things "more fair".

Re:The home of 1984? Really? (1)

turning in circles (2882659) | about 10 months ago | (#46361505)

You write: "Short of actually bringing down the government and replacing the system, hopefully in a non-violent way, this seems unlikely to change any time soon." Looks to me like the Arab/Ukraine/Etc Spring has shown that _bringing down a government_ is almost a guarantee that what replaces it will be nondemocratic.

Re:The home of 1984? Really? (1)

Mashiki (184564) | about 10 months ago | (#46361659)

Plenty of us get it. Please remember that at no point did the general population of the UK ask for, support or condone this kind of behaviour, nor most of the other dubious things we've been hearing about lately that have supposedly been done in our name or for our protection.

Really? Seems that large segments of the population there voted for the madness in this case, and with that they also voted for the madness of their local councils to do crazy shit. And they've also been remarkably silent on well pretty much everything, but that's a big swath of your media helping on that. After all, if you support a euroseptic party, you're automatically a racist, bigot and a hate monger.

You know, much like how the media in the US paints anyone who's a member of the tea party in the same way. But how odd, if you travel to said gatherings/groups/meetings of said organizations you don't find any of that "racist, bigoted, hate monger" crap that they go on about.

Re:The home of 1984? Really? (1)

Hognoxious (631665) | about 10 months ago | (#46362369)

Seems that large segments of the population there voted for the madness in this case

It's impossible to vote for a coalition when you have a single-vote, first-past-the-post constituency based system.

with that they also voted for the madness of their local councils to do crazy shit.

... such as?

if you support a euroseptic party

Germs make thing septic, so I suppose that's caused by Germans? Well in fairness I suppose they started it.

You have no idea what you're talking about. You couldn't point to the UK on a map of the British Isles, could you?

Re:The home of 1984? Really? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#46363065)

We demonstrably don't live in an effectively functioning democracy

Are you sure? Zero tolerance and other strong enforcement policies are usually met with high popular support, not just in elections. Many people are actually in favor of heavy surveillance, as long as it's not abused. Talk to people outside the tech world and I think you'll find that the current outcry is not a general population thing, and where it has spilled over, it is usually about the abuses, not about the surveillance as such. Remember that a democracy doesn't guarantee that the right way is chosen. It just chooses the right way more often than other systems do, allegedly.

Re: The home of 1984? Really? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#46361009)

Have you not seen the picture of all those cctv cameras on George Orwell's house? Irony is apparently lost on them.

Umm (1)

morgauxo (974071) | about 10 months ago | (#46361937)

I'm not from there but I supposed something had to inspire him to write it.....

Re:The home of 1984? Really? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#46362165)

Isn't it nice to be such a wiseass with the benefit of hindsight !

So Mr. Smartypants, how do you stop something from happening that you have no knowledge of in the first place?

Wow (1)

Bender Unit 22 (216955) | about 10 months ago | (#46360599)

That is so fucked up.

Re:Wow (4, Funny)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about 10 months ago | (#46360821)

That is so fucked up.

So is the footage from your laptop (in the garage?) at 3 AM last Tuesday, citizen. That raccoon, seriously?

Re:Wow (1)

Bender Unit 22 (216955) | about 10 months ago | (#46361343)

It had it coming.

Re:Wow (1)

ColdWetDog (752185) | about 10 months ago | (#46361431)

This does explain most of the images on /b/.

Cue the false outrage from Yahoo (3, Informative)

the_scoots (1595597) | about 10 months ago | (#46360601)

I find it hard to believe anything the big tech companies say after years of favors from the government.

Re:Cue the false outrage from Yahoo (4, Funny)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about 10 months ago | (#46360801)

I find it hard to believe anything the big tech companies say after years of favors from the government.

"We are, um, shocked and outraged by these revelations, and wish to assure our customers that, honestly, we are a bunch of incompetent second-stringers, so we probably can't do too much our current level of security. Also, even if we could, we have a long and ignoble track record of being a bootlicking toadies who give our best customer service with the PRC is hunting down dissidents for Labor Camp Adventure Time, we're actually pretty good at that. So, yeah, try to think of us as 'Google': By AOL, it's give us a nostalgic tinge.

Thank you.

Were any of them American? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#46360637)

If so, did any Americans assist a foreign state in spying on Americans? Are there two witnesses to this?

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

Espionage is an act of war.

Re:Were any of them American? (4, Insightful)

noh8rz10 (2716597) | about 10 months ago | (#46360743)

NSA brought gchq in on. This because the y couldn't do it themselves (5th amendment etc.). So they have gchq do the dirty work and then gchq shares the intelligence. Welcome to the new USA.

Re:Were any of them American? (4, Informative)

HornWumpus (783565) | about 10 months ago | (#46360909)

Look up Echelon.

The USA, the UK and Australia were all legally prevented from domestic spying.

So they agreed to spy on each others citizens and share the results, in 1948. It has never stopped.

The original AT&T supplied call metadata to the government back when 'who knows who' was the worlds largest database.

Re:Were any of them American? (2)

MrL0G1C (867445) | about 10 months ago | (#46361103)

NSA brought gchq in on. This because the y couldn't do it themselves (5th amendment etc.). So they have gchq do the dirty work and then gchq shares the intelligence. Welcome to the new USA.

That would be ECHELON [wikipedia.org] you are referring to. Except you obviously missed that news that's been coming out for the last year about NSA spying on Amercicans regardless. What do you think NSA are storing in their $1,500,000,000 data centre, how many Terabytes does $1.5 billion buy?

Re:Were any of them American? (1)

Tharkkun (2605613) | about 10 months ago | (#46361619)

NSA brought gchq in on. This because the y couldn't do it themselves (5th amendment etc.). So they have gchq do the dirty work and then gchq shares the intelligence. Welcome to the new USA.

The GCHQ has been violating personal freedoms far longer than the NSA. It's just accepted on your half of the pond.

Tor is building an anonymous instant messenger (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#46360695)

"Forget the $16 billion romance between Facebook and WhatsApp. There's a new messaging tool worth watching [dailydot.com] .

Tor [torproject.org] , the team behind the world's leading online anonymity service, is developing a new anonymous instant messenger client, according to documents [torproject.org] produced at the Tor 2014 Winter Developers Meeting in Reykjavik, Iceland."

Re:Tor is building an anonymous instant messenger (1)

fermion (181285) | about 10 months ago | (#46363175)

According to the article, the problem is that a significant amount of the traffic is genitalia,ad the officers are just spending all day having to look at these, and general porn shoots, and therefore are not able to get to actionable material. As such they are just trying to filter out the couples engaged in phone sex or real sex.

Therefore, the best way to keep you conspiracy secret is simply have discussion while you are engaged in sex, or make sure that all participants are at least naked the camera prominently display the naughty bits. These will be deemed to be simple pron, and the terrorists will be free to plan the bombing of whatever place they desire.

Creeps.. (1)

gweihir (88907) | about 10 months ago | (#46360795)

It does not get any more creepy and perverted than that...

Look at me funny (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#46360811)

And people always look at me funny when I explain why I have a piece of black electrical tape over my laptops built in webcam. If only I could figure a way of disabling the built in mics now.

Aaaaaand (4, Insightful)

oodaloop (1229816) | about 10 months ago | (#46360825)

That's why I have my webcams taped over when not in use. Who's crazy now??1!?

Re:Aaaaaand (4, Insightful)

freeze128 (544774) | about 10 months ago | (#46360953)

... but they would monitor your video connection when the camera *IS* in use.

Re:Aaaaaand (4, Funny)

oodaloop (1229816) | about 10 months ago | (#46361113)

Shit.

Re:Aaaaaand (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#46360987)

you are.
They've intercepted people who were USING their webcams with Yahoo...
tsss

Re:Aaaaaand (1)

wasteoid (1897370) | about 10 months ago | (#46361069)

what about your microphone? they might be listening to the noises you are making with the camera taped over.

Re:Aaaaaand (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#46362107)

All they'd hear from me is
  "No I don't fucking want help writing a fucking text document"
  "Stop bloody asking me if I want to close this program, I've pressed ctl-alt-delete and clicked yes seventeen fucking times already, just quit it !"
  "Who wrote this piece of shit software, I bet the Taliban would take them outside and shoot them"

Brb, someone at the door.

Re:Aaaaaand (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#46362777)

Open the laptop, remove the microphone. The webcam is usually harder to remove.

Re:Aaaaaand (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#46361075)

Relax, it's you still

Re:Aaaaaand (1)

aralin (107264) | about 10 months ago | (#46362081)

That's why I furiously masturbate in front of my webcam as much as possible. Now the poor sods have to watch. I exact my revenge any way I can get it.

Re:Aaaaaand (1)

ThatsDrDangerToYou (3480047) | about 10 months ago | (#46362687)

That's why I furiously masturbate in front of my webcam as much as possible. Now the poor sods have to watch. I exact my revenge any way I can get it.

Hey, not so furious! You could injure yourself.

This message brought to you by the Dept. of Homeland Security.

Re:Aaaaaand (1)

bob_super (3391281) | about 10 months ago | (#46362535)

As long as you use tape...

NO, it's not a telescreen (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#46360859)

KINECT is "eerily reminiscent" of the telescreen. This is something else.

Sue them for owning child pornography (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#46360867)

It is stated that about 11% of the pictures contain sexually explicit material.
Surely there will be naked pictures of minors among them.
So I think there will be no way for GHCQ to justify this and save their neck, even if (!) the interception of computer camera by the GHCQ is not prosecutable ifself (what I cannot believe).

Re:Sue them for owning child pornography (2)

cbhacking (979169) | about 10 months ago | (#46361673)

CP isn't something you sue over (lawsuits are civil issues, at least this side of the water...). It's something you file charges over. Unfortunately, doing that usually requires an identifiable victim. Who knows exactly whose (childrens') pictures are in that collection? Also, I'm not exactly sure how you file charges against a government agency.

Now, you could sue to shut down the program, and cite the collection ("manufacture" in legal terms) of CP as one of the reasons, but that just, at most, gets the program de-funded. Although I suppose doing so probably makes it easier to get discovery needed for actual criminal cases...?

Worse than North Korea (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#46360903)

English speaking countries only care about good PR on TV owned by 2-3 families.
The rest is accelerating towards North Korea mentality. Give it couple more years and we have it.

Didn't a highschool pricipal do this once? (1)

GoodNewsJimDotCom (2244874) | about 10 months ago | (#46360981)

I vaguely remember a highschool principal who used web cams on laptops he gave out to students. Whatever happened to him anyway?

Re:Didn't a highschool pricipal do this once? (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#46361067)

Robbins v. Lower Merion School District [wikipedia.org]

The FBI investigated, there was a U.S. Senate Judiciary Subcommittee hearing, but in the end the school district spent some money.

In October 2010, the school district agreed to pay $610,000 to settle the Robbins and Hasan lawsuits against it. The settlement must be approved by Judge DuBois, who could also make his injunction barring the district from secretly tracking students permanent. The settlement also includes $175,000 that will be placed in a trust for Robbins and $10,000 for Hasan. The attorneys for Robbins and Hasan get $425,000.

WebRTC Solution (5, Informative)

PineHall (206441) | about 10 months ago | (#46361109)

WebRTC [webrtc.org] seems to be the best way now to communicate and avoid all the spying. It is supported by Firefox, Chrome, and Opera browsers. It does audio, video, text and file transfers. The media streams are all encrypted and once connected the media streams from browser to browser with no middle man/web site.

Re:WebRTC Solution (1)

timeOday (582209) | about 10 months ago | (#46361271)

Thank you, I was hoping the replies would be a resource for identifying some good point-to-point videoconferencing options.

Are there any cross-platform solutions that work well and let you connect by just putting in a destination IP address? (The Internet is so overrun with logins and man-in-the-middles now).

Re:WebRTC Solution (2)

richtopia (924742) | about 10 months ago | (#46361875)

Not to steal the OP's thunder, but I use Jitsi for multi-platform video chat. jitsi.org

The owners of Slashdot deny Kinect spying (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#46361123)

Slashdot has a long and dishonourable history of promoting the propaganda of the state, especially the intelligence operations. The moderation system here was specifically designed to allow blanket promotion or 'removal' of types of post, depending on whether the post was 'on message' or an attempt to reveal the truth. Prior to Snowden, a post of the form "that person is a tin foil hat wearing conspiracy nutcase" was guaranteed to be moderated '5' thanks to Slashdot providing meta-moderation facilities to certain groups.

The owners of Slashdot, being low level peons far from being in the real loop, have no idea why Snowden is being allowed to reveal so many devastating truths, that contradict every lie organs like Slashdot have been pushing for years. So, caught in a cleft stick, Slashdot has no choice but to cover these revelations, and hope you sheeple soon forget and go back to sleep.

Bill Gates, in direct partnership with the NSA, spent billions of Microsoft money buying up every available 'depth' camera research company. The intention was to replace the god-awful joke technology of Kinect (the original one) with a military grade 'time-of-flight' sensor chip that actually measured the depth of each pixel 'ray' using measurements actually accurate enough to record the travel time of individual beams of photons. This military grade sensor, present in EVERY Xbox One, costs more than twice any other part in the console, including the APU chip that holds the GPU and CPU clusters.

The Yahoo story details how dumb data collection is its own worst enemy. The NSA and GCHQ, faced with an absolute access to all webcam traffic, then found themselves actively wanting to arbitrarily sample the data, simply to reduce storage requirements. GCHQ, in the leaked documents, detail this as a semantic disaster- in other words, they new their were nuggets of gold in the data, but had little means of simply finding such nuggets. But that was then.

The Xbox One fixes the problem of NSA domestic spying vs the old dumb webcam capture to a degree that might allow comparison of a crude stone club with an ICBM.

1) EVERY Xbox One can run every spying function of the Kinect 2 sensor block at maximum capacity even when the owner is AAA gaming. 25% of the Xbox One hardware is dedicated purely to running and processing the Kinect system. When the Xbox One is 'off' but still connected to the mains, the Kinect system is 100% operational and functioning.

2) EVERY Xbox One with ANY time spent with a plugged in Kinect 2 sensor system, and ANY time spent connected online is constantly monitoring the people who enter and leave the room, taking detailed facial photographs (even in low light or dark), and uploading these headshots, with time data, to NSA servers in the cloud. The NSA then uses facial recognition software, in combination with data drawn from the known location of the console, to attempt to put names to faces. Unknown faces are still given unique identification numbers, so they can be tracked as specific individuals, even when they are captured by other consoles in other locations.

3) EVERY Xbox One reports to NSA servers in the cloud the moment the console is connected to the Internet with a functioning Kinect 2. The NSA owns a copy of every Xbox One cryptological key. They can instruct ANY online Xbox One to begin (within 100ms) to begin capturing, encoding, encrypting and streaming video and audio streams to a given NSA server. The NSA is given complete control over the quality and nature of the stream. It can even be redirected to the internal HDD for later uploading, if the NSA agent determines the Internet traffic from the console would look less suspicious this way.

4) EVERY Xbox One (online with Kinect active) can be sent 'trigger' conditions for remote activation of recording. This solves the 'Yahoo' problem in the best possible way. So, for instance, the NSA agent can tell a specific console (or range of consoles) to begin video recording if a specific person A and person B begin engaging in sexual activity, for instance. The Kinect 2 'time-of-flight' depth camera, and the software systems that process this data, are PERFECT at identifying patterns of Human movement. Microsoft has boasted and given public demonstrations showing that Kinect 2 can frequently even measure the heart-rate and breathing rate of people in the room by sing combinations of visual data (that actually 'sees' blood pulsing through the skin), sound data and movement data.

The MAIN purpose of these full surveillance projects by the NSA and GCHQ is to collect speculative data against every possible person, in case a given person becomes a "PERSON OF INTEREST" in the future. And by 'person of interest' we mean, in 99.99% of cases, a person who may need to be coerced to support some 'initiative' like, say, the bombing of Syria.

Secondary to this main use is a facility to identify and either co-opt or exterminate emerging 'grass roots' social or political movements and leaders.

The sick, twisted and utterly evil worlds of 'Brave New World' and '1984' are versions of our present and future that the owners of Slashdot are doing their very best to assist into bringing into being. Bill Gates, as he travels the world demanding that the elites take all necessary steps to bring the 'cattle' under maximum control, isn't joking.

Gates has created 'Common Core', 'inBloom' and NSA home surveillance via the Xbox One, with ZERO backlash from the sheeple of the USA. Snowden, a dupe of the most evil people imaginable, is inoculating the sheeple with his revelations, with the psychological effect of "YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, WE'VE ALL HAD ENOUGH OF THAT TUNE, NOW CHANGE THE RECORD". Tony Blair, Bill Gates and Rupert Murdoch all KNOW that as their agenda progresses, the truth WILL leak out, so far better to swamp the sheeple with so much truth, they become immune to its message, and it just becomes so much expected background noise.

George Orwell could not, in a million years, imagined that the State would have access to the technology of the Xbox One, and could persuade sheeple to willing buy and deploy such technology in their own homes.

One would feel obliged (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#46361129)

to bomb the shit out of some organizations for much less.

GCHQ and NSA (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#46361297)

We need someone to capture the web cam chats that the NSA and GCHQ have with each other. Then post them to youtube, vimeo, and all of the other streaming sites.

Where to start? (3, Insightful)

Trogre (513942) | about 10 months ago | (#46361359)

Okay people, start listing your favourite video chat applications that support SIP and TLS, and why you use them.

Go!

Re:Where to start? (1)

Sique (173459) | about 10 months ago | (#46361893)

There is no point in using SIP over TLS, if the endpoints negotiate an RTP connect.

YOU FAIL IT? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#46361421)

else to be an clear she couldn't Ma7 be hurting 7he counterpart,

this isn't the only one (1)

slashmydots (2189826) | about 10 months ago | (#46361485)

Omegle does the exact same thing but solely for moderation purposes (they claim). They take a screenshot every few minutes of every user and then anyone caught being a perv is forced to moderate like 500 of these random screenshots to get their IP address unbanned. Those people catch maybe 5 more people who are all forced to moderate 500 more and tada, free 100% moderation without paying staff.

And nobody has complained about it yet.

Re:this isn't the only one (3, Funny)

AdamThor (995520) | about 10 months ago | (#46362215)

so the punishment for being a perv is that you get to be a voyeur as well?

Its really simple... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#46361519)

As someone who has worked for one of the 5 eyes (my name isn't Snowden btw), I can tell you that if you put it out there and your name is on it, they collect it. Its free information. Total Information Awareness (TIA) is the name of the game. They have 1 data centre for Facebook. 1 for Yahoo. 1 for (name your favourite service here). And a dozen other data centres besides. They have hardware to process, automate, sort, scrutinize and identify key bits (ignore the pun) for all of it. Current hardware not effective? Build new bespoke hardware (including/custom processors, circuits, entire computers, etc.). There is also a gob of software to back it all up. Don't like the government collecting all your data including where you pee and what you eat? Then don't give it to them! You put it up for your friend Fred or Jane, or your mom, but a 3 letter agency got it too, and unlike your page, there is no undo. They collect and glean over time too. This means that if you only give 'just a bit' then they only have 'just a bit'. But later if you give 'just a bit' of something else, they get the new stuff, and add it to the old stuff. Add bills, reciepts, subscriptions, cell phone calls, email, cable tv subscriptions, speeding tickets, traffic tickets, employer information, store purchases via credit card, etc. They know you better than you know yourself.
Sincerely,
Anonymous Coward

Webcam? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#46361589)

GCHQ Here: Tits or GTFO.

Where is the US govt protecting its citizens ? (2)

redelm (54142) | about 10 months ago | (#46361595)

Call me naive, but isn't it the job of the US Federal Government to protect the US citizens and property against incursion and spying by foreign powers? We cannot know what they will do with their intercepts.

PRISM and similar "you spy on mine and I'll spy on yourn" programs smell like conspiracy to violate the US Consititution, if not out-and-out treason. That those programs continue can only be attributed to institutionalized endemic corruption.

Re:Where is the US govt protecting its citizens ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#46362775)

Oh my goodness! How self-centered can one be?
Did you even think of the possibliity that there are human beings outside the USA that are subject of human rights and may want to have privacy?!

Facial recognition BS (1)

wiredlogic (135348) | about 10 months ago | (#46361645)

So you need a dataset for your "automated facial recognition" experiments. Do you:

A) Go to YouTube and collect videos from the millions of talking heads freely available for the taking.

or B) Illegally hack into the private communications of others for the sake of your "experiment".

I smell more than a little BS coming from Minitrue here.

Re:Facial recognition BS (1)

PPH (736903) | about 10 months ago | (#46361791)

I don't know about facial recognition. But I'll bet they have a pretty good algorithm developed for solving the "M girls in N cups" polynomial.

Foils for Hamlet (1)

ObsessiveMathsFreak (773371) | about 10 months ago | (#46361649)

With every new NSA/GCHQ revelation, I am finding it increasingly difficult to tell the difference between these agencies, and an outright criminal internet hacker trolling group.

Devices and sites are being broken into en-masse, security systems at companies foreign and domestic are being compromised, social engineering is being used to torpedo national standards and progress, internet forums are being saturated with disruptive trolls, people are being targeted/retaliated/gaslighted in their jobs and homes, and now, yes here it is, people's webcams are being hacked into en-masse to take pictures of women in their bedrooms -- sorry I mean for national security whatevers.

My mental image of the NSA/GCHQ at this point is a building saturated with passive-aggressive computer geeks with a grudge against the world and a multi-billion dollar budget with which to indulge it. Ethics, maturity and responsibility are to be checked at the door.

I cannot tell where the NSA ends and anonymous/lulsec begins. And at this point I am waiting for the press release which reveals that 90+% of the chans are in fact hosted at Maryland, and that GCHQ is the principal distributor of 95% of all fetish pornography in the United Kingdom.

And I'm willing to take odds right now, that the mother and father of all illegal TV/Film torrent servers are situated in the T1 connected basements of Maryland and Cheltenam respectively.

Re:Foils for Hamlet (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#46361943)

And I'm willing to take odds right now, that the mother and father of all illegal TV/Film torrent servers are situated in the T1 connected basements of Maryland and Cheltenam respectively.

I was always told that the internet was full of porn, so what better way to take the front row center seat then to tap all the fibre optic cables and hack into backbone routers?

I wonder what treasure trove of porn we would find at a typical GCHQ employee home? Probably jackpot!

In related news ... (1)

PPH (736903) | about 10 months ago | (#46361725)

.... GCHQ budget for mental health treatment increased for analysts involved in the webcam intercept project.

I'll bet. "Oh God!!! My eyes!!!" was overheard more than once in that division.

The sad truth... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#46361869)

The British absolutely despise freedom and the concept of freedom. They really, really do.

The even sadder thing is, the general Daily Mail reading populace either don't care, adopt the mentality of "If you've done nothing wrong, you've got nothing to hide," want more censorship and control or adopt the mentality of "It's not my problem."

I took the liberty of compiling a list a while back of freedom hating shit they've pulled, or plan to pull. (Mainly illustrated by the first point on it, being a big fan of anime, hentai, and other aspects of otaku culture.)

The list is here: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=9UDUnvSQ [pastebin.com]

With apologies to Jay Sherman (1)

Hognoxious (631665) | about 10 months ago | (#46361967)

And nothing of interest was found.

Well... (1)

bickerdyke (670000) | about 10 months ago | (#46362001)

and guess what they found out:

http://www.heise.de/newsticker... [heise.de]

according to TheH they had "problems with too much nudity" (Article in German)

WOW!!! (2)

nospam007 (722110) | about 10 months ago | (#46362273)

Yahoo has millions of users?

Who would have thought.

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