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Russia Moves From Summer Time To Standard Time

Soulskill posted about a month ago | from the turn-back-the-clock dept.

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jones_supa writes: Russia's legislature, often accused of metaphorically turning back the clock, has decided to do it literally – abandoning the policy of keeping the country on daylight-saving time all year. The 2011 move to impose permanent "summer time" in 2011 was one of the most memorable and least popular initiatives of Dmitry Medvedev's presidency. It forced tens of millions to travel to their jobs in pitch darkness during the winter. In the depths of December, the sun doesn't clear the horizon in Moscow until 10am. The State Duma, the lower house of parliament, voted 442-1 on Tuesday to return to standard time this autumn and stay there all year. The article also discusses a ban on swearing in books, plays, and films that went into effect today in Russia.

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158 comments

A ban on swearing in books, plays, and films? (5, Funny)

nitehawk214 (222219) | about a month ago | (#47365613)

Fuck that.

Re:A ban on swearing in books, plays, and films? (2)

Travis Mansbridge (830557) | about a month ago | (#47365723)

In Soviet Russia, ____ you!

Re:A ban on swearing in books, plays, and films? (1)

UnknownSoldier (67820) | about a month ago | (#47366009)

In Soviet Russia, time for Russia to fuck you!

Re:A ban on swearing in books, plays, and films? (1)

Mashiki (184564) | about a month ago | (#47366349)

In Russia, Soviet Russia fucks time!

Re:A ban on swearing in books, plays, and films? (1)

pushing-robot (1037830) | about a month ago | (#47366381)

Fortunately for you Slashdot isn't a book, play, or film. (Although I'm probably skirting the edges with Google's Operafier plugin.)

Re:A ban on swearing in books, plays, and films? (1)

war4peace (1628283) | about a month ago | (#47366837)

I've read books not much bigger than that comment, and less funny for sure.

Re:A ban on swearing in books, plays, and films? (1)

Mondor (704672) | about a month ago | (#47366919)

Slashdot is mass media. Mass media can't swear now too.
Bloggers are mass media too, if they have 3000 subscribers or more. Immediately after the parliament made that decision, LiveJournal.com (which now belongs to Russian company) removed the stats from bloggers, expressing numbers in Heroes Of Might and Magic style.

I assume, that this rule won't be enforced like it could happen in Saudi Arabia or other similarly enlightened country. Instead, Russian authorities are getting a license to kill, for later use, when the real cause could be personal dislike or business interests.

Also, if I remember right, they wanted to force all Russian mass media to be hosted in Russia. You know why.

Short summer (1)

rossdee (243626) | about a month ago | (#47365615)

Russia has very short summer

Global Warming! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47365939)

The time change must be either due to, or the cause of global warming, otherwise it is not true.

Re:Short summer (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47366379)

Certainly not all of Russia has short summers?

Re:Short summer (1)

John.Banister (1291556) | about a month ago | (#47366717)

Well, there is Sochi.

They knew (1)

Trachman (3499895) | about a month ago | (#47365641)

They knew that people will be swearing when the new time will become official, as such they made two laws at the same time. Russians themselves are, actually, unhappy and in their view this is a pure restriction of the free speech.

Because (1)

idanity (591710) | about a month ago | (#47365645)

in Russia, TIME TELLS YOU

Re:Because (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47366681)

in Russia, TIME CHANGES YOU

News? (0, Troll)

qpqp (1969898) | about a month ago | (#47365683)

So... How is this even tangentially related to being newsworthy for a tech site? Like, seriously, WTF?!

Re:News? (2)

TWX (665546) | about a month ago | (#47365691)

I donno, I guess they gambled on us finding this story appropriate. A throw of the Dice if you will...

Re:News? (5, Insightful)

GigaplexNZ (1233886) | about a month ago | (#47365741)

I'm a software developer, and dealing with unpredictable timezone changes is not fun. This is definitely relevant to me.

Re:News? (2)

ptaff (165113) | about a month ago | (#47365909)

I'm a software developer, and dealing with unpredictable timezone changes is not fun. [...]

That's why you should never deal with dates/timezones yourself; use libraries and avoid lethal headaches. For instance, the good people taking care of tzdata are already working on it [icann.org] .

Re:News? (4, Insightful)

vux984 (928602) | about a month ago | (#47366049)

Even then its still a headache.

Just because someone else fixed the library, doesn't mean my servers and embedded devices have the update yet.

Re:News? (1)

Guy Harris (3803) | about a month ago | (#47366571)

Even then its still a headache.

Just because someone else fixed the library, doesn't mean my servers and embedded devices have the update yet.

Presumably by "the library" you mean "the tzdata files"; this involves no code changes. The whole point of the Olson timezone database and library was to remove any knowledge of specific daylight savings time rules from any code whatsoever, so that changes to the rules could be handled without having to change source code, recompile, and relink every program (this was back in 1987, when shared libraries were still somewhat rare on UN*X systems). Thank you, Clorox and company. [thebokey.com]

But there still needs to be an update, and that might require restarting processes that have already loaded the now-out-of-date rule information, so, yeah, it's not as if the timezone cabal can wave their hands and magically update all the systems out there.

Re:News? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47366925)

But you still have to push the updated data files to the device. With embedded devies that's not necessarily simple.

And even if tzdata is updated, sometimes you need to tell programs to read the updated data, which isn't just a simple restart. One example is MySQL where you have to run mysql_tzinfo_to_sql to load the zoneinfo files into the internal equivalent (it's stored internally in database tables).

Re: News? (1)

jmaline (26165) | about a month ago | (#47366073)

And it takes zero effort to get updated tzdata on 'n' different platforms that a company might run? Including outdated ones (sad, but common).

I was involved in the project to manage fan out the last time US changed DST rules a few years back. It's a project.

At the time I would occasionally read the tzdata mailing list. I was amazed at how many countries kept changing the rules willy-nilly. No one in government has any understanding of computer systems. I assume these countries with frequent rule changes get used to half of their computerized systems showing the wrong time.

Re: News? (1)

bickerdyke (670000) | about a month ago | (#47366653)

They're content with a flashing 0:00 on their clock. That flashing means it is working, right? For telling the time, there is a consultant.

Re: News? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47366945)

Putin's aides are responsible for updating the tzar's Patek Philippe.

Re:News? (1)

GigaplexNZ (1233886) | about a month ago | (#47366125)

We do use libraries, but as the other posters have mentioned, keeping these systems up to date is a nightmare. Relying on customers to keep their systems up to date too is even worse.

Re:News? (1)

GNious (953874) | about a month ago | (#47366639)

What about the programmers writing the date/timezone libraries? It ain't turtles all the way down :)

Re:News? (1)

thegarbz (1787294) | about a month ago | (#47366845)

What's to say that GigaplexNZ isn't actually working on tzdata?

Palming the problem off on someone maintaining a library is great until you find out that you are infact the library maintainer.

Re:News? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47367091)

I'm sure we can expect Microsoft to have a patch for all those computers still running Windows XP, shortly.

Re:News? (2)

ipstas (3573381) | about a month ago | (#47366123)

and this is why UTC was invented.

Re:News? (4, Interesting)

GigaplexNZ (1233886) | about a month ago | (#47366133)

We use UTC internally, but that doesn't stop customers from reporting bugs with wrong timestamps in the UI since they don't have the latest timezone rule patches installed.

Re:News? (1)

Mashiki (184564) | about a month ago | (#47366457)

Give it time, we'll eventually hit a 36 hour day.

Re:News? (1)

qpqp (1969898) | about a month ago | (#47366459)

Ok, I stand corrected. There's the one touching point...

Re:News? (5, Funny)

Charliemopps (1157495) | about a month ago | (#47365761)

So... How is this even tangentially related to being newsworthy for a tech site?

Like, seriously, WTF?!

It's newsworthy because we finally have proof that another countries legislature is at least, just as ridiculous as our own.

Re:News? (1)

Guy Harris (3803) | about a month ago | (#47366589)

So... How is this even tangentially related to being newsworthy for a tech site?

Like, seriously, WTF?!

It's newsworthy because we finally have proof that another countries legislature is at least, just as ridiculous as our own.

Note that the quoted statement can be made in a number of different countries; if you want proof that a lot of countries fuck around with daylight savings time rules, etc., just download the tzdata files and read [iana.org] .

Re:News? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47366725)

They got rid of daylight saving time. How is that ridiculous? Computers don't like daylight saving time (ok, computers don't care, developers don't like it), people evolved in a world without it, and every time we move the clock back and forth, we fuck up the sleep cycle for millions of people. Even animals don't like it, when wild animals have finally learned not to cross the street at the time when people are driving from and to work, we change the clock and start driving at the time that was safe before.

Now, all we need is for the rest of the world to get rid of daylight saving time. We are not saving the candles that was intended, and needing close the curtains when watching TV does not make up for turning on the lights in the morning.

Re:News? (1)

Megol (3135005) | about a month ago | (#47367115)

Bullshit. Humans have internal timers that are synced to the sun - think about that for a moment. Humans have until recently risen with the sun.
But if we do continue with your line of reasoning we should go back to local time, something that most part of the world had until forced to change - often because of the introduction of trains. Now that would be a huge problem for software!

Re:News? (1)

EEPROMS (889169) | about a month ago | (#47365765)

says the man who has never had to manage servers in different countries where time zone changes can totally screw with automated management scripts.

Re:News? (1)

hubie (108345) | about a month ago | (#47365867)

Isn't that all handled these days in the tzdata file?

Java etc (1)

dbIII (701233) | about a month ago | (#47366189)

Some things have their own time implementations. Other things are not updated without manual intervention.
Personally I see some merit in the Chinese option of having the entire place on Beijing time and adjusting work hours regionally instead - or just doing everything on UTC for the rest of us.

Re:News? (1)

qpqp (1969898) | about a month ago | (#47366453)

Uhm... I really don't wanna break it to you this way, but ... My servers (in different time-zones) are centralized [openntpd.org] .

Re:News? (0)

StripedCow (776465) | about a month ago | (#47367029)

You mean when the central server breaks or is compromised, all of your servers will break too?
That sounds great.

Distributed & federated are the keywords of today...

Re:News? (1)

Megol (3135005) | about a month ago | (#47367123)

So you like fragile systems? If one have problems with something as simple as daylight saving time the codebase is sure to have a lot of other timing problems that require a lot more effort to manage.

Re:News? (2)

AthanasiusKircher (1333179) | about a month ago | (#47365781)

So... How is this even tangentially related to being newsworthy for a tech site? Like, seriously, WTF?!

It's not, really. I mean, some people here have to deal with maintaining time zone changes on servers and such, so it will be relevant to a few.

But it's mostly to draw out two major types of people who love to debate time issues on Slashdot: (1) people who want to have the perpetual debate about whether Daylight Time EVER makes sense (or whether it ever "saves" anything), and (2) the people who love to propose their favorite "NEW" alternative time and calendar initiatives that are generally very similar to ones that have been debated by weirdos for hundreds of years and have absolutely no chance of being widely adopted.

Just wait... that's the sort of discussion to expect whenever anyone brings up time standards.

Re:News? (1)

hubie (108345) | about a month ago | (#47365843)

Don't forget the third type: the ones who can't figure out why people get so worked up angry about an hour difference, and couldn't care either way.

Re:News? (3, Interesting)

zippthorne (748122) | about a month ago | (#47366055)

What are they doing reading an article about DST then?

Obligatory Onion link [theonion.com] and XKCD link [xkcd.com]

Re:News? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47365857)

It helps spreading Russophobia.
Sinophobia and Russophobia are ways to distract people from their own shitty govts.

Re:News? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47366043)

It won't work, because people will see through both due to the Net, and that both have extreme, kick-ass propaganda departments.

Wish we had a good propaganda department to promote nationalism here in the US... more people care about what celeb is in rehab, or some stupid wedge issue as opposed to real shit going down like ISIS/ISIL, and the consequences of Iraq's government completely failing (there will be a point where Iran and KSA move in to protect their ilk, squashing the Kurds in the middle.) If people actually gave a flying fsck about the country, it would be nice.

Re:News? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47366181)

[...] as opposed to real shit going down like ISIS/ISIL, and the consequences of Iraq's government completely failing (there will be a point where Iran and KSA move in to protect their ilk, squashing the Kurds in the middle.) If people actually gave a flying fsck about the country, it would be nice.

What if you start caring about your own ass, instead of messing (once and once again) with random people in remote countries?
YOUR country trained, financed and supported Al-Quaeda and ISIS, YOUR country has killed millions of people with the excuse of "democracy" and "freedom", and to "protect" them. YOUR country has trained MANY bloody dictators in the past, YOUR country praises warmongers to the benefit of a few corporations. You could say "Oh, but you are talking about the government!", but, WHOSE government is? YOUR goverment, YOUR responsibility. If they did it with YOUR votes, your apathy or your ignorance, it doesn't matter.
YOUR government killed Saddam Hussein and Gaddafi, YOUR country is bombing people with white phosphor and dirty bombs, YOUR country is GENOCIDAL. YOUR policy is HYPOCRISY and TERRORISM against those who dare touch your statu quo.
You wonder why is your country becoming a police state? READ THE HISTORY OF YOUR OWN FUCKING COUNTRY.

Re:News? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47366443)

I think I see where you're going. So now people from the US can say "But YOUR government changed the time zone twice in a year!"

Re:News? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47366937)

ROFL

Re:News? (5, Funny)

jones_supa (887896) | about a month ago | (#47366741)

So... How is this even tangentially related to being newsworthy for a tech site? Like, seriously, WTF?!

Hi. As the submitter, my reasoning was that timezones are quite nerdy topic. There has also been lots of daylight saving articles in Slashdot over the years. As far as I know, Slashdot hasn't ever been purely tech site.

Aw, scrap that. I actually submitted this only because I can totally annoy you with it, and because of all the possibilities for Soviet Russia jokes.

Re:News? (1)

bloodhawk (813939) | about a month ago | (#47367119)

countries, states, regions changing their time zones has been the bane of developers for decades.

Slashdot loses again (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47365685)

Every March a story about DST is posted on /. and the posts are about 3 to 1 against the entire concept of turning clocks ahead and back twice a year. Big waste of time and money, government bureaucrats looking to justify additional staff, etc.

Hey, maybe the coders and IT admins here don't know everything about everything even when they reach a consensus? Nah... couldn't be.

Re:Slashdot loses again (1)

bickerdyke (670000) | about a month ago | (#47366665)

That's the great idea about that russion system. 3 years of all-year-round DST/summer time, then all back to Standard/Winter-Time, and in a few years, they'll be going for a few years of summer time again. Like Westeros.

Summary ommits that during soviet times, russian time was also DST all year round, so this is not a new idea from 2011. That was just the latest iteration.

Re:Slashdot loses again (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47366969)

Oh wow. The winter is coming!!1

Good riddance for daylight savings time (0)

LaughingRadish (2694765) | about a month ago | (#47365759)

Next lets hope that the US, Canda, and Europe abandon DSL.

Re:Good riddance for daylight savings time (1)

LaughingRadish (2694765) | about a month ago | (#47365771)

Whoops. DST.

Re:Good riddance for daylight savings time (1)

ipstas (3573381) | about a month ago | (#47366131)

both!

Re:Good riddance for daylight savings time (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47365861)

Next lets hope that the US, Canda, and Europe abandon DSL.

Cable for the win?

Re:Good riddance for daylight savings time (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47365901)

What about Australia you insensitive clod!

Re:Good riddance for daylight savings time (2)

ArcadeMan (2766669) | about a month ago | (#47366001)

In Australia, the clocks are upside-down.

Re:Good riddance for daylight savings time (1)

dbIII (701233) | about a month ago | (#47366213)

In my state we had a vote on daylight saving. For was 49%, against was 51% and less than half a percent very faulty (informal) votes or non-attendance and that's with compulsory voting. In all other votes there's more people that turn in blank papers or ballots with things like "none of those bastards" written on them, but on daylight saving people seemed to care more about the issue.

Re:Good riddance for daylight savings time (2)

laederkeps (976361) | about a month ago | (#47366553)

Also, I hear they turn counter-clockwise.

Re:Good riddance for daylight savings time (2)

jones_supa (887896) | about a month ago | (#47366749)

I have heard that those radio-controlled (DCF-77 [wikipedia.org] in Europe) mechanical clocks always do the time adjustment clockwise, so when moving from summer time to winter time, you might hear a "kkkrrrrrrrrrr..." in an unconvenient moment, when the clock patiently goes all 23 hours forward.

Re:Good riddance for daylight savings time (1)

dunkelfalke (91624) | about a month ago | (#47366853)

that is true

Re:Good riddance for daylight savings time (1)

Chrisq (894406) | about a month ago | (#47367117)

that is true

My mechanical one does this. The digital ones just boringly change instantly

Re:Good riddance for daylight savings time (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47366223)

Perhaps you live in Florida.

To avoid dark mornings in the winter, standard time is needed. Yet, it is not needed in the summer - mornings are bright in either standard or summer time. So there is a choice. Summer time gives those bright summer evenings, so the answer to the choice is clear for some.

Re:Good riddance for daylight savings time (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47366447)

That's illogical. If moving time forward by an hour magically creates one more hour of light in Florida, wouldn't moving it back a thousand hours magically create a thousand hours of light? That's what the stupid Republicans are arguing. They rule this hellhole of a state with an iron fist and are constantly looking for new ways to screw us all over.

PS: captcha was "harmony." Ha! That is the antonym of Republican.

Illogical (4, Interesting)

rtb61 (674572) | about a month ago | (#47365775)

Consider the inherent illogical move of banning words. Everybody has to know the words if you want to ban them. They have to know the banned word in order to not use it, thus someone has to use it, to teach them not to use it !? One assumes Russian will simply use the English words khuy (cock), pizda (cunt), yebat (to fuck) and blyad (whore) instead.

Surely the craziness of teaching people words they are not allowed to use to make sure they can adhere to the law and not use them will dawn on them.

Re:Illogical (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47365845)

I can't wait for them to publish the list of words that are illegal to publish...

Re:Illogical (2)

laederkeps (976361) | about a month ago | (#47366559)

Quoth Carlin: Shit, piss, fuck, cunt, cocksucker, motherfucker, and tits.

Re:Illogical (1)

mark-t (151149) | about a month ago | (#47365853)

"It was intended that when Newspeak had been adopted once and for all and Oldspeak forgotten, a heretical thought .... should be literally unthinkable, at least so far as thought is dependent on words. " -- "1984", George Orwell

Re:Illogical (1, Interesting)

AHuxley (892839) | about a month ago | (#47365945)

Russia does not have the luxury of wide open boarders or just accepting a vast culture of drink, lyrics, drugs, health issues, poor quality food and a trade in neon colored laundry liquids.
The Russian idea is to educate as many of its own people to a good average level and then sort out the best for further top quality higher education.
Russia does not have the option to focus on the top 10% of its best people and letting the bottom 90% drop out into slums.
Russia seeks to teach its own people: arts, culture, classical music, math, physics, biology, history, languages with less input from a distracting imported culture pushing drink and drugs.
Will it work? A few decades of university graduates after the 1990's might give a hint.

Re:Illogical (1)

rtb61 (674572) | about a month ago | (#47366467)

Actually those countries doing the best have specific multicultural zones, blending pots where many people of many cultures come together, not necessarily the whole country but at least specific cities (couple of US examples Seattle and San Francisco). If Russia wants to surge ahead, it needs to think outside of the box and promote a multicultural zone, bring in high value immigrants from many regions to conduct high tech activities. A slick move would be to turn the Crimea into a multi-cultural zone and actively promote high quality migration to that region via the promotion of technology and creativity activities, with far more liberal laws in the zone, even to the point of legalising cannabis. That would throw a real cat amongst the pigeons.

Re:Illogical (1)

John.Banister (1291556) | about a month ago | (#47366743)

What about trains? Couldn't trains be a multicultural zone?

Re:Illogical (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47365961)

Perhaps putting it into law is new, but it has been that way in practice for a while. And, not surprisingly, Russia is not alone on this. Take the Comics Code, for instance.
Looking on the bright side, maybe putting it into law can actually do some good if (and that's a big "if") people tell them to take this bullshit law and put it where the sun doesn't shine.

This quote from Jaroslav Haek is appropriate here:

Life is no finishing school for young ladies. Everyone speaks the way he is made. The protocol chief, Dr. Guth, speaks differently from Palivec, the landlord of The Chalice, and this novel is neither a handbook of drawing-room refinement nor a teaching manual of expressions to be used in polite society.
It was once said, and very rightly, that a man who is well brought-up may read anything. The only people who boggle at what is perfectly natural are those who are the worst swine and the finest experts in filth. In their utterly contemptible pseudo-morality they ignore the contents and madly attack individual words.
Years ago I read a criticism of a novelette, in which the critic was furious because the author had written: “He blew his nose and wiped it.” He said that it went against everything beautiful and exalted which literature should give the nation.
This is only a small illustration of what bloody fools are born under the sun.

Re:Illogical (1)

sribe (304414) | about a month ago | (#47365979)

shitpisscuntcocksuckermotherfuckertits

(Did I get that right???)

Re:Illogical (1)

rmdingler (1955220) | about a month ago | (#47366297)

George would be proud, sir.

Re:Illogical (1)

ArcadeMan (2766669) | about a month ago | (#47366011)

For a second there, I thought you said they just outlawed pizza (pidza).

Re:Illogical (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47366437)

In Russian pizza is "pitsa" (with stress on the first syllable). I guess you mean pizda (with stress on the second syllable), which is a rude word.

Re:Illogical (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47366095)

I think you've missed the point. This law is to stifle political dissent. It's not possible for the average person to express an opinion about Putin and the Duma without using one of the forbidden words. So you get the effect of political censorship without having to come right out and do it directly.

Re:Illogical (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47366557)

Consider the inherent illogical move of banning words. Everybody has to know the words if you want to ban them.

Of course they don't. The law is perfectly logical and you are just coming to this from the wrong direction. The purpose of the law is not to clean up publications in Russia. Not at all.

The goal is to give the government one more tool to silence the opposition.

Not having a well-defined list of banned words only helps this. The main determining quality to decide whether a word is forbidden or not is whether the author is a supporter of Putin or not.

Re:Illogical (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47366615)

Except that it is not a ban of words at all. If you read http://ria.ru/state/20140423/1005142742.html you notice that actually it is:

1) Only applicable to entertaiment, not opinions or information
2) It only forces the provider of the content to advise before showing/selling the content that bad language is contained.

That is more a rating system than a ban actually, although on state television it is likely to be used as ban.

Nonetheless, you can write a fucking blog where you write whatever the fuck want, no problem here..

Saskatchewan (1)

corychristison (951993) | about a month ago | (#47365785)

This is how we do it in Saskatchewan. Permanent CST (Central Standard Time). And that's how we like it.

We also have tempurature ranges from -45ÂC to +45ÂC,and 9 months of winter, 3 months of potholes. :-)

Re:Saskatchewan (2)

mirix (1649853) | about a month ago | (#47365799)

But we are also permanently on DST, as it's more like 11 when the clock reads noon.

No way you slice it, days are too short in winter, too long in the summer. shifting one way or the other makes no difference. In winter it's dark when you get up and dark when you go home.

Re:Saskatchewan (2)

sribe (304414) | about a month ago | (#47365993)

We also have tempurature ranges from -45ÂC to +45ÂC,and 9 months of winter, 3 months of potholes. :-)

Where I live the county government describes it to new residents this way: "The two weeks of summer are bracketed by one week each of spring and fall. The rest is winter."

Slashdot fails at reporting. (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47365919)

"It forced tens of millions to travel to their jobs in pitch darkness during the winter." This is called "living in northern latitudes", people have been doing it for millennia. It also forces millions to "suffer" through really long summer days. Those of us who live in NYC also call it the "running of the boobies' and you can pry it from our cold, dead hands.

What is more concerning is your switch from ranting about day light savings time to an aside about censoring, well, everything.

Shifting time an hour is the act of a mad-man but telling other people what they can say and how they can express themselves is an aside? You should get your priorities in order.

Re:Slashdot fails at reporting. (5, Interesting)

dargaud (518470) | about a month ago | (#47366795)

Well, when the days are short, one hour of difference can mean a lot of light and temperature difference. When I was working in Antarctica Dome C, in order to 'simplify' things, 'they' decided we would have the same timezone has the logistical base of operation on the coast which was actually located 5 time zones ahead. So we had to get up when the sun was actually at 3am solar time. In other words the coldest time of day and in summer it was ofter -50C at that time while it could be a balmy -25C at noon even though there was little difference in sun elevation. To make a long story short after a few days we all started to get up at 11am to compensate. The next year they gave us our own proper timezone.

ban on swearing??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47365973)

In Russia? Are you fucking kidding me? The Russians are artistes of swearing! No joke, they have a 2 or 3 syllable short little word which translates roughly to "strike on the cunt with a spatula", just for one example...

Re:ban on swearing??? (1)

John.Banister (1291556) | about a month ago | (#47366799)

But don't you think the ban on writing it down will strengthen the oral tradition that got those phrases into the language in the first place? It was probably all this unfettered desktop publishing that kept the phrase for "strike on the cunt with an 89mm floppy" out of the language until it was too late for it to have meaning. Now it's just pointless, and soon it will pass out of mind, like data stored on an 89mm floppy.

Abolish it all. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47366107)

DST should be eliminated. So should time zones. I live pretty far north, where your days get shortened more than an average american, but i dont use DST since i moved here and its awesome. but why even have time zones? it was basically a system for "high noon" being the same in places, aka: sundial based. who cares if you work 9-5 or 2-10 or 16-00. its still 8 hours. and it would be magically delicious

Fuck (2)

pitchpipe (708843) | about a month ago | (#47366109)

In Putin's Russia, time fucks you.

Illogical (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47366231)

I can't wait for them to publish the list of words that are illegal to publish...
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I'm curious (1)

therenaissanceman (2002268) | about a month ago | (#47366355)

Who was the one legislator that voted against going back to standard time?

Pisdovonyuchka (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47366631)

Pisdovonyuchka!

Say it. Love it.

Finally! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47366661)

All of Russia's problems are solved!

Hail UTC (0)

SpaghettiPattern (609814) | about a month ago | (#47366719)

Hail UTC. Everyone should use it. I mean, what's in a number for keeping track when you have to do stuff? Local time is hard enough and then comes daylight saving. Ever travelled by boat from Europe main land to the British isles? Ever had to calculate tides and/or water flow? Ever had an uncomfortable/critical email exchange between Europe and British isles (where the feet-dragger typically abuses any possible source of unclarity)?

Re:Hail UTC (1)

oobayly (1056050) | about a month ago | (#47366821)

My car's clock live on UTC, mostly because I'm too lazy to adjust it. The problem is that when it's serviced the mechanic "helpfully" adjusts the time, which caused a fair amount of confusion the first time. Same goes for the clock in my flat - fortunately it doesn't get messed around by my garage.

Funny you mention tides and ambiguity - what really winds me up is when things like tide tables are published with no mention of a time zone, Pop quiz hot shot, you draw 2.2m, do you assume you're at HW+3, or HW+4 and hope that there's a roller skate on the keel.

Re:Hail UTC (1)

SpaghettiPattern (609814) | about a month ago | (#47366875)

My car's clock live on UTC, mostly because I'm too lazy to adjust it.

It's quirky. But could also be a symptom of a benign kind of OCD. Then again, perhaps I'm projecting my prospect of live on you. In which case, please ignore cheerfully.

Russian lawmakers have too much idle time (2)

avgapon (1851536) | about a month ago | (#47366987)

Lacy underwear is banned. http://edition.cnn.com/2014/02... [cnn.com] You may laugh at a regulation like this, but it went into effect yesterday.
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