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NSA Considers Linux Journal Readers, Tor (And Linux?) Users "Extremists"

timothy posted about 5 months ago | from the where-do-we-sign-up? dept.

Encryption 361

New submitter marxmarv writes If you search the web for communications security information, or read online tech publications like Linux Journal or BoingBoing, you might be a terrorist. The German publication Das Erste disclosed a crumb of alleged XKeyScore configuration, with the vague suggestion of more source code to come, showing that Tor directory servers and their users, and as usual the interested and their neighbor's dogs due to overcapture, were flagged for closer monitoring. Linux Journal, whose domain is part of a listed selector, has a few choice words on their coveted award. Would it be irresponsible not to speculate further?

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First Post! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47378705)

Had to happen one day!

FreeBSD (5, Insightful)

approachingZero (1365381) | about 5 months ago | (#47378715)

One more reason to use FreeBSD.

Re:FreeBSD (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47378735)

What, then you're daemonic

Re:FreeBSD (2, Informative)

approachingZero (1365381) | about 5 months ago | (#47378855)

It was meant to be funny, I'm sure they're watching everyone.

FreeBSD (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47379073)

Linux people _might_ be terrorists. FreeBSD users most certainly are terrorists, don't ya know?

Re:FreeBSD (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47379091)

OpenBSD = 100% terrorists, pedophiles, and schizophrenics.

Re:FreeBSD (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47379205)

OpenBSD = 100% terrorists, pedophiles, and schizophrenics.

The voices in my head resent being called terrorists!

Re: FreeBSD (2)

Anders Bylund (2986017) | about 5 months ago | (#47379387)

The voices in my head use NetBSD.

Yeah, right. (4, Insightful)

Samantha Wright (1324923) | about 5 months ago | (#47378717)

There's this story about an off-duty bridge officer aboard a large US military ship who, groggy after having to get up rather early, called the bridge and requested that the vehicle, some quarter of a million tons of steel, personnel and equipment, be rotated 15 degrees, all so he didn't have to move an inch to get the sun out of his eyes while he drank his coffee.

Maybe whoever wrote that list merely wants to read the Linux Journal forums. Surely we're not pretending as if SELinux doesn't exist and that the NSA hasn't historically contributed to Linux. That would be a foolish thing to do. Of foolishness.

Re:Yeah, right. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47378795)

Reading the definition. It seems designed to flag mentions of "tails" on linux journal forum.

Yeah, right. (2)

slashdice (3722985) | about 5 months ago | (#47379095)

The NSA also contributed to Dual_EC_DRBG [wikipedia.org] .

Re:Yeah, right. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47379215)

I have read the Linux Journal forums. Sorry, but I have to agree with them on this one.

Extreme? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47378727)

I do feel kind of extreme. Extremely awesome for being a Linux user!

Re:Extreme? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47378911)

You, me, and every other Super Villian [youtube.com] , bro!

It's not what you think (4, Interesting)

tyggna (1405643) | about 5 months ago | (#47378733)

They're looking for potential hires. What better pool to pull from than technical terrorists?

I'm finally Extreme (2)

Culture20 (968837) | about 5 months ago | (#47378741)

Too bad it's not slang for groovy radically bodacious these days.

BINGO! (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | about 5 months ago | (#47378769)

My whole card's filled out!

I guess that makes me Cyber Bin Laden?

BINGO! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47378811)

I guess that makes me usr bin Laden?

ftfy

Re:BINGO! (4, Funny)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | about 5 months ago | (#47378943)

-sh: /usr/bin/laden: not found

Muahahaha! >:-D

Re:BINGO! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47379021)

I guess that makes me usr bin Laden?

ftfy

kill -9 `/usr/bin/Laden`

Re:BINGO! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47379217)

They were too late a few years ago. He died non-violently in December 2001 from kidney failure.

ISIS Caliphate (2)

turgid (580780) | about 5 months ago | (#47379311)

Anyway, the new dude is Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi [bbc.co.uk] and he's assimilating Irag, Syria and probably Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Somalia, Nigeria... you name it... into his all new "proper" Islam state.

A number of armies in the region are already squaring up, including Iran and Saudi. There have been some murders of Israeli and Palestinian teenagers by terrorists too, probably trying to goad each side into action.

It's a bloody miserable state of affairs.

Re:BINGO! (1)

Dishevel (1105119) | about 5 months ago | (#47379077)

Actually they are all just in fear of our /root powers.

Re:BINGO! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47378895)

More like Recycle Bin Laden

Re:BINGO! (1)

WaffleMonster (969671) | about 5 months ago | (#47379167)

My whole card's filled out!

Now go outside and hold it up high to claim your prize.

Re:BINGO! (1)

BronsCon (927697) | about 5 months ago | (#47379415)

Osama Bin Hacken

fjourst poop (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47378779)

first pooop!

neat (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47378783)

so, can the government now confiscate their own bank accounts for financing terrorists?

Re:neat (2)

mu51c10rd (187182) | about 5 months ago | (#47378917)

so, can the government now confiscate their own bank accounts for financing terrorists?

Would there be anything there to confiscate?

Not a big surprise (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47378817)

With people like Richard Stallman at forefront, who can blame them?

Re:Not a big surprise (5, Insightful)

lister king of smeg (2481612) | about 5 months ago | (#47379017)

With people like Richard Stallman at forefront, who can blame them?

You mean the guy screamed about the government spying on us and that we can't trust closed source anything for decades. Guess what he turned out to be right.

RMS & Md (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47379093)

RMS == Prophet Mohammed (pbuh)
GNU/Linux == Sunni Islam
GNU/Libre-Linux == Shia Islam

Silver Lining (5, Funny)

ThatsNotPudding (1045640) | about 5 months ago | (#47378835)

Finally someone pays attention to us Linux folk!

Extremist, says who? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47378841)

The article and summary _ARE_ extremist by making the outlandish assumption that the intelligence community is interested in ONE thing and everything related to one search criterion is labeled as such.

Applying the same logic to someone's Google search for "stuffed linux penguin", it'd be like claiming they think penguins are operating systems.

News Flash (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47378859)

NSA closely monitoring /.

Re:News Flash (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47378913)

Why? To laugh at us?

Re:News Flash (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47378945)

Crap. I follow /. and use linux, I must be a double threat. Wait, there's some black suv's with funny antenna's on the roof outside, noooo.

Year of the linux extremist (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47378865)

Finally, this is the year of the linux extremist. Stone every windows infidel! Show Darwinists how well their Mac burns!

Re:Year of the linux extremist (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47378953)

Before you send SWAT teams: this was intended as a JOKE.

Re:Year of the linux extremist (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47379025)

Too late, SWAT team's on their way.

- Spook

P.S. you might want to take this time to lock up your pets

Magazine (4, Interesting)

freeze128 (544774) | about 5 months ago | (#47378899)

That sounds like a good name for a magazine: "Linux Extremist"

Re:Magazine (1)

unixisc (2429386) | about 5 months ago | (#47379047)

I do recall a magazine called 'Linux Extreme'

Year of the Linux Extremist? (1)

inhuman_4 (1294516) | about 5 months ago | (#47378901)

Year of the Linux Extremist?

That has got me curious. I wonder how many terror groups use linux?

Re:Year of the Linux Extremist? (2)

spacepimp (664856) | about 5 months ago | (#47378983)

Linux Fundamentalist is the term.

Re:Year of the Linux Extremist? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47379033)

It's starting read like a Linux version of the Chinese zodiac.

Year of the Zealot
Year of the Desktop
Year of the Extremist ...

oh god (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47378909)

i read Linux magazine , i use tor and worse than other , i am from Iran . oh god ! i have no doubt.they should list my name beside bin laden .

Re:oh god (5, Funny)

Tyrannicsupremacy (1354431) | about 5 months ago | (#47378957)

I cant imagine how you can find spare time amidst all of your jihadding to post on slashdot...

We're all Terrorists (5, Insightful)

BlueTemplar (992862) | about 5 months ago | (#47378915)

At this point, I think I'm not going to be too far away from the mark by saying that if you're not part of the USA' "Military-Industrial Complex", then you're a terrorist.

Re:We're all Terrorists (1, Troll)

Dishevel (1105119) | about 5 months ago | (#47379171)

Snowden was a part of the USA' "Military-Industrial Complex", and he is a terrorist.

Re:We're all Terrorists (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47379303)

... and that mere comment just confirmed you ARE a moron.

Re:We're all Terrorists (4, Funny)

Dishevel (1105119) | about 5 months ago | (#47379447)

Oh.

Thank you for your comment. I really appreciate the way ACs are not only so free with their opinions, but I have noticed that almost without fail they always offer tons of well researched supporting facts to back up their opinions.

That coupled with their awesome grasp of humor and their perfect recognition of sarcasm makes me value opinions of ACs like you so very much.

Re:We're all Terrorists (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47379417)

flamebait?

Can you blame them? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47378927)

If you want weird you go where the weirdos are.

Underlying cause? (5, Insightful)

no-body (127863) | about 5 months ago | (#47378929)

Are they in any way successful in catching "terrorists"?

Hardly - maybe they caught one guy in - was it San Diego - to give money to some far away organization labeled as well, offensive/dangerous in some way (don't recall all details).

There was also a hearing and a lied number of 20-isch? was admitted but later debunked.

So - all in all, the tremendous snooping effort is not showing much result and essentially being a flop.

Remedy: Increase effort in more and more complex systems.

Otherwise, maybe it's just inner need for control, power and conditioned thinking which motivates and attracts humans to participate in this nonsense (religions come to mind following the same principle).
Actually a very dangerous route this is taking - thought control (if you THINK that, you are...) and modeled prediction of events based on secret procedures

Re:Underlying cause? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47379181)

Well, somebody has to keep all these peeping toms employed, right?

Well, of course (5, Insightful)

Opportunist (166417) | about 5 months ago | (#47378939)

If you dare to not follow the herd, think for yourself, make up your mind by yourself without the aid of government "guided" media, of course you must be an extremist.

It's frightening how close the US already got to the USSR of old.

Re:Well, of course (5, Interesting)

gstoddart (321705) | about 5 months ago | (#47379179)

It's frightening how close the US already got to the USSR of old.

I don't know.

I think the in days of the USSR, the citizens didn't believe the propaganda. Whereas a lot of Americans seem to think "why, we have to do this to stop the terrorists".

Convincing people to buy into it is quite a feat.

Basically the NSA has decreed anybody who disagrees with their methods and scope must be an extremist.

I predict in less than 10 years any form of dissent, or privacy will be completely gone in the West. And then we're all harmless sheep, which is exactly what they want.

Re:Well, of course (2)

Flavianoep (1404029) | about 5 months ago | (#47379289)

It's frightening how close the US already got to the USSR of old.

I don't know.

I think the in days of the USSR, the citizens didn't believe the propaganda. Whereas a lot of Americans seem to think "why, we have to do this to stop the terrorists".

Soon will come the time when they will not need to convince anyone anymore.

Re:Well, of course (5, Insightful)

gstoddart (321705) | about 5 months ago | (#47379371)

Soon will come the time when they will not need to convince anyone anymore.

Yes, because they'll have arrested anybody who disagrees with them, and all that is left will be people too scared to say anything or who agree.

The NSA is the enemy of freedom and liberty, they just act like they're defending it.

And, yeah, some desk weenie has probably flipped a switch that says I'm an extremist -- what they don't realize is the more they do this shit, the more they'll create extremists.

What's really pathetic is how many Americans are buying into this, when not 20 years there would have been outrage.

Really, and truly, on 9/11 the terrorists got exactly what they wanted -- the destruction of Western societies as we knew it, and the rise of Americans saying "we don't give a crap about the rest of the world, we're scared". Sadly, that will create a backlash of people saying "we don't give a crap about the US, now piss off".

There's no going back from this kind of thing.

Re:Well, of course (5, Insightful)

c6gunner (950153) | about 5 months ago | (#47379213)

If you dare to not follow the herd, think for yourself, make up your mind by yourself without the aid of government "guided" media, of course you must be an extremist.

It's frightening how close the US already got to the USSR of old.

Oh, irony.

See, a rational person would have looked at what's going and concluded that the NSA's position is "of course you're more likely to be an extremist" rather than "of course you must be an extremist". But self-styled "free-thinkers" such as yourself always seem to tend toward these extreme, paranoid views that barely resemble the actual situation. It's almost as if you tended towards extremism or something.

"Sir.. HOLY SHIT SIR!" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47378941)

"SIR, more than half the internet are terrorists! They are all connected to Linux!"
"Mother of GOD! Get the President!"

NSA Learns How The Internet Works, coming to a theatre near you!

Re:"Sir.. HOLY SHIT SIR!" (1)

dysmal (3361085) | about 5 months ago | (#47379007)

This would be Science Fiction because the NSA will never learn how the internet works.

Re:"Sir.. HOLY SHIT SIR!" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47379135)

They know how the internet works, they are complete amateurs at data sorting and categorization though, because if they were pros at it, they wouldn't be monitoring everyone and his dogs, and also wouldn't result in Snowden style leaks.

Summary of all this? NSA are a total fuckup and the president should come clean and hand them all their pink slips.

Re:"Sir.. HOLY SHIT SIR!" (2)

CreatureComfort (741652) | about 5 months ago | (#47379343)

Personally, I'd rather have a bunch of total fuckups in charge of this stuff, rather than someone more capable, and therefore more dangerous.

Re:"Sir.. HOLY SHIT SIR!" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47379459)

yes

Paging cold fjord and c6gunner! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47378971)

Please go ahead and tell us how great it is that the NSA is spying on Americans in order to protect us from extremist Linux users.

Thanks in advance!

-- an American who researched encryption utilities for the electronic medical software he's a developer for. You know who I am!

Re:Paging cold fjord and c6gunner! (1)

lister king of smeg (2481612) | about 5 months ago | (#47379079)

Please go ahead and tell us how great it is that the NSA is spying on Americans in order to protect us from extremist Linux users.

Thanks in advance!

-- an American who researched encryption utilities for the electronic medical software he's a developer for. You know who I am!

not even cold fjord could come up with twisted enough of a logic to call this reasonable.

Re:Paging cold fjord and c6gunner! (5, Funny)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | about 5 months ago | (#47379105)

Really? Check out the beards on Islamic fundamentalists and l33t *nix sysadmins. Are you ready to assume that's a coincidence?

Re:Paging cold fjord and c6gunner! (4, Funny)

CreatureComfort (741652) | about 5 months ago | (#47379361)

You can tell the difference by the Cheeto stains.

Re:Paging cold fjord and c6gunner! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47379259)

The Linux Users hate us for our Free Software?

Oh, wait...

It is time to (3, Insightful)

Twelfth Harmonic (3464759) | about 5 months ago | (#47378987)

liberate our OSes !! In all seriousness; it pains me to see the country that created the Bell Labs to fall into the hands of these lunatics.

Why do they not exempt 5 eyes countries? (4, Interesting)

Joe Gillian (3683399) | about 5 months ago | (#47378991)

I just finished reading the article, and here's something I don't get. They mention that for certain "fingerprints", the NSA would automatically exclude users believed to be in one of the "Five Eyes" countries. Yet, for other fingerprints (such as searching for Tails) it would gather data regardless of where the user is located or believed to be located. Why would they apply the "Five Eyes" exemption some but not all of the time?

Re:Why do they not exempt 5 eyes countries? (3, Interesting)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | about 5 months ago | (#47379087)

They give you the Five Eyes exemption until you do something really dangerous like read a Linux magazine or look up encryption tools. Then you've shown that you are a potential threat like all those shady characters who live in every other country on the planet.

Re:Why do they not exempt 5 eyes countries? (2)

Joe Gillian (3683399) | about 5 months ago | (#47379201)

I guess that begs the question then: If they're putting people on watch lists (and capturing data on them for permanent storage) merely for reading Linux Journal or trying to download Tails, how much taxpayer money are they wasting on server space, bandwidth, personnel, electricity, etc to capture and maintain all of this data on people who are on the list for the sole reason that they tried to read about Linux or encryption?

Re:Why do they not exempt 5 eyes countries? (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | about 5 months ago | (#47379291)

To be serious, I'd have to imagine they're wasting the vast majority of their resources on this crap. There are a lot more Linux users, privacy advocates or cipherpunks than terrorists in the world, and that's not even getting into the human rights activists, world leaders, phone users from the Bahamas, etc.

Re:Why do they not exempt 5 eyes countries? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47379315)

That is really the question, isn't it? NSA has created the biggest haystacks in the planet's history and most of them are needle-free. They have their collective fingers in their ears as we ask, "What / Where's the point?!"

Re:Why do they not exempt 5 eyes countries? (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47379321)

You are missing the point.

Threat has to be created for the apparatus to be funded.

Repeat the above until it sinks in. People would lose jobs if they said "hey, well, we don't really have a serious threat.... so yeah, we are doing nothing at this time". So they make shit up to keep busy.

Wars are fought for the idea "keep population distracted".

If people were actually rational beings, not "retarded emos", we would not need more than half (more like 90%) of the so called security apparatus. And FBI would not be having a war on drugs, they would be having a war on DUIs (driving under influence), speeding and we would require yearly vehicle safety checks. Also, most people would not be speeding anyway, because hey, would be rational creatures. We would not need to even debate US's outdated second amendment.

But no, we live in a world of phycohistory. Masses are not governed by rationality, but by emotion. The world is "fuck you, got mine". So that's what we have and deserve. We have thousands of nukes still ready to kill off our civilization *today*. We have War on Drugs and War on Everything. We have people protesting nuclear power, because hey, AGW is not real and somehow they think coal is better.

So, it's back to square one. "Fuck you, got mine". That's why we are where we are. /RANT

fatwah against Lennart Poettering's systemd (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47379039)

Unity's for Shiites!
Keep fighting the Jihad against bad software, brothers!

The NSA has a "game of thrones" complex. (1)

mark_reh (2015546) | about 5 months ago | (#47379043)

Everyone who isn't us is the enemy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]

To a coward... (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47379061)

They say to a hammer, everything looks like a nail. To a frightened small-minded cop, everyone looks like a crook. To an agency charged with protecting a nation against people who keep secrets, everyone looks shifty, and like he has something to hide.

To the hanging judge, every man looks guilty, and to a coward, every man is a terrorist.

Their attitude reflects their mindset: they're a bunch of frightened, small-minded cowards. The sad thing is...

We. All. Collectively. Hired. Them. To. Protect. Us.

What does that say about us? Sure, it was by proxy, we hired the useless, corrupt, bought-out politicians who hired them, but it is still the fault of the person who voted these clowns into office. Don't blame the NSA for doing their job, blame the lazy, stupid, good-for-nothing assholes who hired them and gave them permission or negligently allowed them to do what they do, and then blame the people who elected THEM.

There is an old saying: in a democracy, people deserve the government they get. To be honest though, it's not just democracies where this happens. In general, people deserve the government they get. Period.

Enjoy (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47379075)

The feds have been tagging talk radio listeners, gun enthusiasts and others as "extremists" in training material and other non-public documents for years now.

How's it feel?

The precedent is long set, but you didn't care when it started because you agreed with it at the time; "teabaggers herp derp."

Too late now, fuckers. Keep your head down.

Re:Enjoy (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47379339)

“First of all, they came to take the gypsies
and I was happy because they pilfered.
Then they came to take the Jews and I said nothing,
because they were unpleasant to me.
Then they came to take homosexuals,
and I was relieved, because they were annoying me.
Then they came to take the Communists,
and I said nothing because I was not a Communist.
One day they came to take me,
and there was nobody left to protest.

Bertold Brecht, inspired by Emil Gustav Friedrich Martin Niemöller”

i dont know how much more i can take. (4, Interesting)

nimbius (983462) | about 5 months ago | (#47379085)

First i was an extremist because I visited, and posted, to slashdot. then i was an extremist because I used tor, then again because I used crypto on my laptop, and again for reading wikipedia...and once more im an extremist for reading the linux journal?

At what point in my extremety should I start endorsing things like sports drinks and shoes? Am i still allowed to drink tea in the morning or does this mean i need to switch to energy drinks and techno music. Does this work like GTA? can i take up knitting and become less extreme instead? Do the kids know im extreme? I mean the only un-extreme thing i seem to have been able to do last year was buy this Model M keybo0@0#69t@[NO CARRIER]

Re:i dont know how much more i can take. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47379125)

This should help http://www.instructables.com/i... [instructables.com]

That's nothing (4, Informative)

m.dillon (147925) | about 5 months ago | (#47379199)

In the 80's it was well known that the CIA was monitoring the USENET. Apparently there was a list of keywords that they searched for that became well known, so we used them all the time. We had it on good authority that the CIA had become amused by our antics. It probably relieved the boredom.

-Matt

I'm extra screwed then (5, Funny)

Maquis196 (535256) | about 5 months ago | (#47379225)

I'm a Linux sysadmin, run Tor at home and vote Green Party. (In UK were considered domestic extremists - http://www.theguardian.com/pol... [theguardian.com] .

I do wonder how that Ice cream van outside stays in business, its not even hot outside!

Re:I'm extra screwed then (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47379367)

at least buying ice cream is convenient.

A mark of honor (1)

A non moose cow (610391) | about 5 months ago | (#47379231)

Anyone who has not been categorized as an extremist by now should be ashamed of their "fainting goat" status.

Know your history (5, Insightful)

HeckRuler (1369601) | about 5 months ago | (#47379239)

Time to remind everyone of the last time this happened.

Except it was J Edgar Hoover, the FBI, their programs like COINTELPRO [wikipedia.org] , and those crazy radicals like Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and Albert Einstein as well as people on the list for being part of the women's right movement, civil rights movement, "the new left", criticizing the Vietnam war, and the typical boogy-man organizations of socialists and communists.

Or hey, how about MINARET? [wikipedia.org] or SHAMROCK? [wikipedia.org] . Both of which had no warrents, but when people got a whiff of them, congress came down hard and the projects were discontinued.

What's so different about this time? Why are the power that be not doing their job?

Here's a great quote by meta-monkey, from A YEAR AGO:

Re:"Congressional hearings" (Score:5, Insightful)
by meta-monkey (321000) Friend of a Friend on Wednesday July 31, 2013 @12:39PM (#44437417) ...
Scarier part: why aren't they blaming each other for this "serious overreach?" That they will then investigate, have some hearings, and then go right back to biz as usual? That's all politicians do. Make vague, meaningless statements and take no responsibility, blame everyone else, then do nothing. Instead they're making firm, direct statements. "Legal!" "Constitutional!" "Full oversight!"

Why are they so far off script? Here's how the script is supposed to go:

Snowden: "They doin' teh snoops!"
Democrats: "Bush started it!"
Republicans: "Saint Bush never would have authorized this! This must be part of a secret communist Muslim plan to install sharia law!"
Obama: "No, really it was just the Cincinnati branch of the NSA!"
Senate committee: "Thank you for your service, Mr. Snowden for bringing this overreach to our attention. We've got top men working to correct it. Top. Men."
Snowden: "No prob, I'll go rot in obscurity now."
Clapper: "Ow. My wrist. From the slapping. Wheeeeeelp, back to the shadows for biz as usual."

The mask isn't just slipping. It's on the floor. The man behind the curtain is doing a tap dance. Just what the fuck is going on?

One YEAR. The exact same trend is continuing. No one of power is fighting this. No one is backing down. Just what the fuck is going on?

Re:Know your history (4, Informative)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | about 5 months ago | (#47379383)

You forgot about one of the dangerous communists he was tracking, Isaac Asimov. [slashdot.org]

(TFA in that link is worth a read, or you can read my spoilers [slashdot.org] )

Re:Know your history (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47379393)

Hypothetically speaking: would you oppose the NSA when you know they might have a file containing all those dirty secrets that will definitively end your career?

Re:Know your history (4, Funny)

meta-monkey (321000) | about 5 months ago | (#47379409)

Shit man, don't attract more attention on me! I, uh, use Windows! Windows...ummm...8? Is that the least terreristy one? I don't know! Don't rendition me, I'm harmless I swear!

Re:Know your history (4, Interesting)

Noryungi (70322) | about 5 months ago | (#47379433)

The Stasi (East Germany Secret Police) used to be one of the most powerful intelligence service in the world. It is estimated they had hundreds of thousands of informants and it maintained files on millions of citizens of East Germany.

But the Berlin wall eventually fell, despite all its efforts and all its agents. I believe the same thing will happen in the US. When the times comes, the whole rotten house of cards will crash down to earth.

Oh, and, NSA? Please go f**** yourself.

And yet they can't find hires (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47379249)

LOL, simultaenously they struggle to find hires. Maybe the NSA will collapse under the weight of its own absurd contradictions. /dream-on.

I call bullshit on this. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47379253)

I'm one of the people calling bullshit on this, there's plenty of Linux users both in the US and in the world that are not "extremists," case-in-point, pretty much all Ubuntu or Mint users, for example, and I'm also a Linux user and I'd consider myself pretty far from "extremist."

Actually they're saying they are going to watch... (1)

Karmashock (2415832) | about 5 months ago | (#47379369)

... them. They label them extremists because they need to do that to watch people. Is it fair or reasonable? No. It just how our stupid government works.

Should the NSA be watching the very savvy computer communities? Obviously. They have to do that. They can't do their jobs unless they're aware of what is going on there.

Should they label them extremists? No. But neither should they need to do that to watch someone.

This is why a lot of political groups in the US are being labeled as extremists. Because there are some people in those groups that do crazy stuff like make bombs. Practically none of them do that but one out of a million does... and they need to watch for that.

Android (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47379377)

Android is Linux. Linux users are extremists....

If A = B and B = C....

The NSA also considers Slashdot (3, Funny)

tekrat (242117) | about 5 months ago | (#47379397)

The NSA also considers Slashdot to be a terrorist organization.

And they'd be right too, judging from some of the comments I've posted here... oops.

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