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Law Repressing Social Media, Bloggers Now In Effect In Russia

timothy posted about 5 months ago | from the it-takes-a-village-but-not-yours dept.

Censorship 167

An anonymous reader writes On Friday, Russia implemented a new law that significantly limits its citizens' online free speech. Under this new law, social media sites must "retain user data for at least six months...within the country's boundaries so it can be available for government inspection." Also, "bloggers with at least 3,000 daily readers must register with Roskomnadzor, the regulator that also oversees Russia's main media outlets." This, of course, means that popular bloggers will no longer be able to remain anonymous.

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next... (4, Insightful)

guygo (894298) | about 5 months ago | (#47586517)

the Berlin Wall goes back up.

Re:next... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47586627)

The Republicans are too stupid to comprehend what that was. They have no memory which is why they worship the Russians now. They want the same style of oppressive government here in the US. That is why their kind is working so hard to destroy the US. We are already far past the point of no return. The only thing we can do is hide from their death squads while they try to kill all of our children. That is the way of their kind. They attack and murder us constantly. My roommate was recently mugged by a white man that once ran for mayor of Oakland as a Republican . That proves what they want.

Re:next... (-1, Flamebait)

arbiter1 (1204146) | about 5 months ago | (#47586661)

whoa wait a sec are you confusing republicans with democrat's? Over last 5-6 years democrat's been ones doing all the damage.

Re:next... (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47586845)

Whoa, wait a sec. Do you both actually believe that the damage can be blamed on any ONE party?

Re:next... (5, Insightful)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about 5 months ago | (#47587143)

There is only one party. Bickering factions are what we see on the TV. It plays well to a wide audience.

Re: next... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47587253)

Hear, hear.

Re:next... (1)

superwiz (655733) | about 5 months ago | (#47587657)

Yes, the one in power. Ie, the Democrats.

Re:next... (1, Interesting)

Sabbatic (3389965) | about 5 months ago | (#47587683)

If you actually believe that the entire political class isn't a power bloc in contrast to the populace, if you actually believe that the democrats are "in power" and calling all the shots, if you actually don't understand the difference between what they say and do in public and what they say and do behind closed doors, you are one of the many benighted fucks who are the actual cause of our problems. An ignorant and easily duped populace is the means to their ends. And it's "i.e." dipshit, for id est, not "Ie." Moreover, it's used to start a subordinate clause, not a sentence. Your 8th-grade level education is expressing itself on a grammatical level too. "Superwiz"? Fuck. You wish.

Re:next... (2, Insightful)

epyT-R (613989) | about 5 months ago | (#47586821)

Uh what? No, the left wants to increase the size of state. The neocons want to use that state to enforce laws that benefit their corporate benefactors. Of course, there is cross over, too, as democrats have many corporate backers and repubs certainly have ideological tenets they want pushed on the population.

Too bad neither of them remember what individual liberty is.

Re:next... (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47586643)

You mean the Iron Curtain

And yes.

Re:next... (1)

clarkkent09 (1104833) | about 5 months ago | (#47587321)

Realistically, no. Russia is a capitalist country dependent on global capital and trade. It cannot afford to cut itself off like it thought it could when it was USSR and had a lot of satellite countries to buy its crappy goods.

Re:next... (5, Interesting)

Karmashock (2415832) | about 5 months ago | (#47587397)

Russia's economy is dominated by its energy exports. It can and is largely subsisting on that income.

If you want to break Russia's economy then you need to give europe an alternative energy source.

Controversial as it may be, we should probably be advocating hydrologic fracturing in Eastern Europe. If Ukraine and Poland can ween themselves off Russian energy imports and possibly become net exporters to Germany then Russia's economic position will collapse indifferent to whether or not they censor bloggers.

Re:next... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47587827)

Come to think of it, the reason for all the aggression towards Russia was missing. Surely we never had problems with letting millions die or bombing things into oblivion or supporting regimes that did that for us but concerted efforts for more than a half a year now were difficult to explain in any other way than incompetence and stupidity of the criminals that rule us. That is unless we look at gas especially. Big energy multies have now more supply of the gas than they can use - why not try to change the market by a war? We get new markets for our new sources and because Europeans are scared of winters they will pay for building new supply channels. What better could happen to these big companies? I am not sure which scenarios I like more - incompetence and stupidity or greed. It may be that both reasons play a role - this works better I guess.....

Re:next... (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47587403)

Even then, the USSR did not do well, when they were thwarted from their warmaking apparatus.

Yeah, they weren't communists, except by propaganda. They were authoritarian militarists who knew to lie to the people.

Just like the ones in the West. Nobody ever claims to be the villain. They're always some form of hero. Even when they're wretched and despicable, they find a way to dress themselves up pretty, lying to the rest of us, if not to themselves.

Re:next... (2, Interesting)

rtb61 (674572) | about 5 months ago | (#47587821)

You live in the world of WTO illusion. Primary resources rich country can pretty much chug along on their own as long as they are patient with catching up. This attitude always leads to outside intervention either through disrupting and fomenting revolution or through direct invasion. The idea being to drive them to borrow illusory capital to buy in mass consumerism products and drive debt in order to strip mine the countries primary resources. Russia is quite simply to powerful to do this hence some constant harassment and prodding is required to drive reaction and then the propaganda campaign can commence.

Don't want to the hassle with data simply point your .ru address to servers in other countries, although it would likely be wise to avoid US servers and servers in other countries controlled by the US.

Why are the Russian getting so uptight about social media servers, easy, the US is right into corrupting social media servers in order to forment social unrest, hence the Russians are hard at work attempting to track that activity down and block it as well as tracking down and deporting US agents. The NSA has a pretty big head start by basically hacking the whole world and the whole world now needing to work hard clean that shit out.

Russia would be better off working on a fairly nasty counter attacking national honey pot network and a massive database flooding and contaminating misinformation campaign, lots and lots of contaminated data, going all over the place, creating false data and data association, massive amounts of it, the idea being to flood the NSA/CIA databases and create false relationships. Tie in some real world actions like minor bank deposits et al and they'll end up chasing reds in everyones beds.

Best defence is a good offence and it is far better than harassing your own population.

Re:next... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47587579)

Maybe Russians could sell that to Israelis? Maybe a curtain works better that a dome.

At least better than many western countries (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47586523)

USA retains it forever, no matter what laws are in place.

Re:At least better than many western countries (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47586587)

Exactly. The Republicans in that shithole outlawed real social media years ago. The subjects there no longer have the right to real social media. The Republicans have won. In their minds they consider themselves the leg behind the boot that stamps-out freedom forever. Their kind gets off on that.

Re:At least better than many western countries (2)

Noah Haders (3621429) | about 5 months ago | (#47586947)

dude who are you? why are you posting so many stupid comments on this story? I guess I have to turn off ACs for this article.

Re:At least better than many western countries (4, Funny)

DivineKnight (3763507) | about 5 months ago | (#47586973)

Must be /. night over at 4-chan tonight.

Re:At least better than many western countries (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47587205)

dude who are you? why are you posting so many stupid comments on this story? I guess I have to turn off ACs for this article.

He's either dumb as a post or he's parodying those extreme lefties who happen to be dumb as a post.

And yes, there are stupid people of all political persuasions.

FWIW, I'm betting he's too stupid to know how stupid he is.

This is what the Republicans want for all of us (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47586555)

That is why their kind loves Putin so much. They hate the average American and want us to die. That is their way.

Re:This is what the Republicans want for all of us (1)

thieh (3654731) | about 5 months ago | (#47586625)

Or it's just that those opinions which don't resemble that one those got censored already. Or they just want you to think that they censor all the other ideas. or ideas other than "they just want you to think that they censor all the other ideas" got censored. Ad nauseam.

you're a troll (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47587237)

Republicans do NOT "love Putin", do NOT "hate the average American" and do NOT "want us to die"

Republicans despise guys like Putin, and the vast majority were annoyed that Bush thought Putin was a reasonable guy. Just because a few Republican-leaning pundits have said "Putin is a better leader than Obama" (a statement about LEADERSHIP) that does NOT mean they support his motives, his goals or his methods - only an idiot could draw that conclusion. As for "hating average Americans" ... NOBODY can out-do Obama on that as he continues to push-down the wages and benefits of middle-class and lower-class Americans by flooding the nation with millions of illegal aliens.

You're that AC who posts in all Slashdot threads blaming Republicans for everything, aren't you? Go back to Kos or HuffPo and stew some more in that brain-pickling toxic brew.

Re:This is what the Republicans want for all of us (1)

superwiz (655733) | about 5 months ago | (#47587659)

What the fuck are you talking about? Democrats are the neo-Communist party.

At least the Russians are being upfront (1, Insightful)

oDDmON oUT (231200) | about 5 months ago | (#47586601)

Unlike the US/NSA.

Re:At least the Russians are being upfront (5, Informative)

BradMajors (995624) | about 5 months ago | (#47586611)

And.... this information collection is legal in Russia, while what the NSA is doing is illegal.

Re:At least the Russians are being upfront (1)

The Grim Reefer (1162755) | about 5 months ago | (#47586743)

...while what the NSA is doing is illegal.

Son of a bitch. All this time I though Lucas was a washed up, "has been" when I saw Ep. 1. It turns out he may have managed to channel the future presidents of the US [youtube.com]

For now, it may be illegal. But how many illegal things have been ignored or reversed-pardoned-executive ordered by the current president and his predecessor? When do we get a Bush-Obama Sith lightning death match?

Of course Lucas seems to have been pretty optimistic by the end of Ep. 3 thinking there were even two good guys left. I'm not sure we have that many in federal office right now.

Re:At least the Russians are being upfront (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47587735)

I'm not sure we have that many in federal office right now

I'm sure there's at least 2 janitors in federal offices somewhere right now that are still good and decent.

Re:At least the Russians are being upfront (4, Insightful)

Savage-Rabbit (308260) | about 5 months ago | (#47586703)

Unlike the US/NSA.

No, the NSA is monitoring social media and bloggers, in Russia they have progressed from just monitoring to repressing them. I'm in no way in favor of what the NSA is doing but there is a difference between watcing bloggers and telling bloggers they have to register if they get a hitcount over 3000 or suffer the consequences, whatever they may be.

Re:At least the Russians are being upfront (3, Informative)

qpqp (1969898) | about 5 months ago | (#47587001)

they get a hitcount over 3000

It's 3000 unique visitors.

"The draft introduced the definition of a popular blogger as someone whose internet page attracts at least 3,000 readers every day (earlier this week the authorities announced that these should be unique visitors, not just page hits) [...]"

And

Individuals who violate the law can be fined between 10,000 and 30,000 rubles (US$285-$855) and in cases when popular blogs are maintained by legal entities fines can reach 500,000 rubles ($14,285)."

Source: http://rt.com/politics/177248-... [rt.com]
I'm not saying that I agree with their line, but what was the last ruling on slander or defamation in the US? I think it was more than USD 855.
Also, after what happened with the US backed NGOs trying to influence public opinion around the former USSR resulting in color revolutions (and, arguably, what's happening in the Ukraine now,) I'd have probably done the same to protect my national interests.

Re:At least the Russians are being upfront (4, Informative)

theshowmecanuck (703852) | about 5 months ago | (#47587337)

The Russian law is to expose anonymous bloggers so Putin and his cronies know where to send the assassins when they see someone criticizing them or exposing their corruption. Same as when they had all the dissenting mainstream Russian journalists assassinated. Now Chairman Putin and his friends control the mainstream media, so on to phase 2: online journalists and bloggers. Of course they are thinking that announcing the law might save some money too, by intimidating people into not exposing the Chairman's lies (like the bullshit about Ukrainians needing any outside impetus to oust a corrupt Russian-backed president who syphoned off billions of dollars into his own pocket while sliding deeper into Chairman Putin's pocket).

Re:At least the Russians are being upfront (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47587845)

I think you are forgetting Putting causing ebola and sending ebole infected people (surely KGB agents) to US. Only the KGB agent tramp did not get the memo yet but he surely will and US society will crumble under this siege. In other news Putin caused the harvest in Europe to fail. Previous reports that it was a harsh weather were incorrect as harsh weather was due to KGB doing nasty stuff with air currents etc.

Re:At least the Russians are being upfront (1)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about 5 months ago | (#47587169)

...if they get a hitcount over 3000...

Hey, what the hell, if you can get the government to provide your hitcounts for you, make the best of it. I would hope they could bump up their ad rates a bit.

Am I the first to ask? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47587285)

What if I say "NO!"?

Re:At least the Russians are being upfront (1)

tarellel (863902) | about 5 months ago | (#47586797)

There's no need to register in the USA, seeing as how the NSA already knows who you are and what you're doing.

Awesome news, because loggers suck (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47587585)

Internet is overflown with useless noise and bullshit "news". Every dipshit with a net connection and blogger page thinks they are hot shit and know what they are talking about - it's just noise.
99.9% of bloggers are click whores who are only regurgitating crap from someone else's page.
There is practically no original content. They do not investigate, research, check facts and then report. They publish their baseless BS, fantasies and pedestrian opinions as facts and then call it news.
Fuck bloggers, fuck twitter and all the rest of this retarded "media"!

Brave new world... we live in indeed.

Mr Obama; (4, Insightful)

MouseTheLuckyDog (2752443) | about 5 months ago | (#47586603)

The 80's called and they want to know if you need a foreign policy.

Re:Mr Obama; (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47586673)

Exactly. The Republicans HATE the idea that they missed a chance for a nuclear war in the 80s. Expect them to do everything they can to make sure we have one before their ridiculous xian holiday that they lie and claim happens on December 25th. Their kind can't even tell the truth about their made-up religious dates. Mary wasn't raped on December 25th, and they know it but they still claim that date was when she was raped. Of course when you create an entire religion around a rape, you're going to be pretty screwed-up from the start. That is why they're so happy thei proto-xians are killing people in the Gaza Strip. My neighbors are having a hell of a party now to celebrate the death of children. That is the way of their kind.

Re:Mr Obama; (0)

epyT-R (613989) | about 5 months ago | (#47586941)

I suggest you get over that whole democrat good, republican bad mantra. That's the circus part of 'bread and circuses'. Reality is far more complicated.

Re:Mr Obama; (1)

the_Bionic_lemming (446569) | about 5 months ago | (#47587355)

That was one of my favorite ST TOS episodes. :)

You win the prize (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47587329)

For the dumbest, most-ignorant, most hate-filled, most-delusional, most over-the-top asenine post in the history of Slashdot. Congrats. I'd say you "need help", but actually you are clearly beyond help. Get yourself some banners and chants and join the Phelps clan at a protest somewhere.

the USSR is back (2)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | about 5 months ago | (#47586655)

the USSR is back

Re:the USSR is back (5, Insightful)

gymbrown (778195) | about 5 months ago | (#47586819)

I remember as a kid reading the Soviet Union’s constitution giving Soviet citizens more rights than the US. They had a very good constitution and Canada had none. I thought that in Canada, there was no protection similar to our first amendment but Canadians could say, type and publish their thoughts freely. The Soviet union required typewriters to be registered with a typing sample so unauthorized speech wouldn’t contaminate the citizens. Russia is going down the same hole as the Soviet Union and we are following close behind.

Re:the USSR is back (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47587213)

I remember as a kid reading the Soviet Union’s constitution giving Soviet citizens more rights than the US. They had a very good constitution and Canada had none. I thought that in Canada, there was no protection similar to our first amendment but Canadians could say, type and publish their thoughts freely. The Soviet union required typewriters to be registered with a typing sample so unauthorized speech wouldn’t contaminate the citizens. Russia is going down the same hole as the Soviet Union and we are following close behind.

Nope. [wikipedia.org]

Re:the USSR is back (1)

gymbrown (778195) | about 5 months ago | (#47587545)

I didn’t say when I studied this; this was in the late 40s. Your link is several decades since then; the soviets still had a good but ignored constitution for years. The Canadians got their own constitution that outlined several rights of Canadian citizens in 1982. I should have stated when I last studied constitutional freedom way before the Constitution Act of 1982. I talked to a naval tort lawyer about the Soviet Union constitution as he was still a student constitutional law and the newer constitution was only slightly poorer. It was a diversion for him, as he appeared disinterested tort law. The problem we face is, we do not support the Bill of Rights, as we should.

Re:the USSR is back (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47587967)

sounds like EU bureaucracy of today.

Because everyone follows Russian Laws? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47586665)

Oh wait, that's what the US is for. If it's drug or movie related anyways :P

Bloggers in the USA are totally anonymous. Right. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47586671)

Popular bloggers in the USA don't have to register with the government.

But it's not hard to find out who they are.

Re:Bloggers in the USA are totally anonymous. Righ (1)

bossk538 (1682744) | about 5 months ago | (#47586803)

As I understand it the law, your identity will be public information once you have 3000 hits in a day. In the USA, the NSA might know who all the bloggers, but keeps it private. I imagine that from now on, any blogger in Russia criticizing the government or deviating from the narrative presented by the state-owned media might face consequences.

Re:Bloggers in the USA are totally anonymous. Righ (1)

epyT-R (613989) | about 5 months ago | (#47586965)

Not if you're careful about it.

Edward Snowden's Plan B? (2)

Irate Engineer (2814313) | about 5 months ago | (#47586693)

Hmm,

Edward Snowden's professed mission in life is to enable secure, anonymous internet communications.

Edward Snowden's visa in Russia has expired.

Now this.

Snowden is on thin ice, I think. Where could he possibly go from Russia, except for a dark hole in GitMo?

Re:Edward Snowden's Plan B? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47586851)

You REALLY don't know what GitMo is and what it is for, do you?

Re:Edward Snowden's Plan B? (0)

I'm New Around Here (1154723) | about 5 months ago | (#47587027)

Of course we do.

It's President Obama's Torture Chamber.

Re:Edward Snowden's Plan B? (2)

Concerned Onlooker (473481) | about 5 months ago | (#47587165)

Wow, you really ARE new around here, aren't you? I'd be OK with you calling it Obama's Torture Chamber if I thought you were just as aware that it was also Bush's Torture Chamber.

Re:Edward Snowden's Plan B? (1)

I'm New Around Here (1154723) | about 5 months ago | (#47587201)

It was a joke, so as Sgt. Hulka said, Lighten up, Francis.

Re: Edward Snowden's Plan B? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47587423)

Bullshit. He promised to close it. And is doing all he can to make it so. It is the Republicans that are keeping it open.

Re:Edward Snowden's Plan B? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47587173)

It's a place to put your enemies when you cannot legally or ethically find a way to charge them with a crime... Sound like it would be just the ticket for Mr. Snowden.

Re:Edward Snowden's Plan B? (1)

clarkkent09 (1104833) | about 5 months ago | (#47587335)

It's a place to put enemy combatants to whom you don't want to allow the status of POWs (which they are not under international law) but at the same time you don't want to give them access to the US court system by charging them as common criminals (which realistically they also are not as they are waging war on the US). Not really a bad idea.

Re:Edward Snowden's Plan B? (1)

thieh (3654731) | about 5 months ago | (#47587363)

but somehow they don't want people to die there from non-natural causes so they give the prisoners there full health coverage.

Re:Edward Snowden's Plan B? (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47587387)

You're completely missing the whole "enemy combatant" part, which really is THE KEY to the whole GitMo thing. And though it is the nihilistic hipster thing to cry about how our friends Eddie and Julian (we love calling them by their first names because it makes us feel like they're one of us, how we know that they'd really like us if they got the chance to know us) would be "thrown into GitMo", they think that because they've worked themselves up in their little hero fantasy narrative that GitMo is some kind of political prison or gulag (ha, see what I did there?). That is an unbelievably stupid thing to say. Anyway, can you imagine either of them as enemy combatants picked up on a battlefield? They'd look dopier than Dukakis riding in a tank.

Second, are you really that stupid?? "Where you can't find a way to charge them" . . . just like Snowden??? Are you so wrapped up in your hero worship that you really don't have even the slightest idea what he did? He STOLE CLASSIFIED MATERIAL, RELEASED IT, and GAVE IT AWAY! Even HE says he broke the law. And you really think there isn't any grounds to charge him with a crime??? You have got to be (one of) the stupidest people on this site today.

Re:Edward Snowden's Plan B? (1)

Bert64 (520050) | about 5 months ago | (#47587615)

Only it's quite easy to charge snowden with a crime, while the ethics of what he did and what he exposed can be questioned, from a purely legal standpoint he did commit a crime.

In Soylent Russia (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47586711)

Bloggers are food.

Easy fix (3, Interesting)

penguinoid (724646) | about 5 months ago | (#47586725)

If all the Russian bloggers are just government controlled parrots, just switch to reading foreign blogs.

Also, you could have a setup where your Russian blogger has only a single reader, a foreigner who re-blogs everything they write (unless Russia doesn't take kindly to being clever like this).

In other news... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47586775)

Putin's approval rating has skyrocketed, yet again.
Either these numbers are bogus or the 1% rich of Russian represent the other 99%.

In other news... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47587013)

Nah... Russians are that brainwashed.

Re:In other news... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47587071)

At least we don't believe in a fake two-party system and have a foreign policy. Hah!

Re:In other news... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47587687)

What you believe is much worse. That would be ANYthing that comes from Putins mouth.

Meanwhile (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47586791)

Here in the US, if you build a parade float that mocks the President, he sends Justice Department agents to intimidate you [rt.com] and the mayor of your town.

Re:Meanwhile (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47586867)

Yeah, but in the US, you CAN build a float that mocks the President. Why don't you ask Pussy Riot how great it is to say anything critical of Putin.

Sheesh, what an ignorant dipshit.

Re:Meanwhile (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47586961)

Why don't you let pussy riot perform in St. Patrick's cathedral, you little bigot?

Re:Meanwhile (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47587221)

Bigot?? Ha-ha! I nailed it! You really ARE an ignorant dipshit. You really shouldn't have thrown away that Word-A-Day calendar your grandma gave you for Christmas.

Re:Meanwhile (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47587291)

That's because Putin declared himself to be a whole new race, like an emperor (or, how do you say Übermench in Russian?), and you aren't allowed to talk down about his race. (By the way, help me out on my geography, but since he's on an annexation kick, how far from Ukraine is the Sudetenland? He's got that perfect face where you can see him sitting in a high-backed chair in front of a HUGE table, he's wearing a suit jacket with a turtleneck and no tie, an eyepatch, and he's stroking a white cat in his lap. I KNOW you can picture that!).

Re:Meanwhile (0)

Noah Haders (3621429) | about 5 months ago | (#47586977)

i thought that band was arrested for having a shitty name.

freedom OF speech? well, of course. (4, Interesting)

turkeydance (1266624) | about 5 months ago | (#47586837)

freedom AFTER speech? not so much.

In new-Soviet Russia (1)

presidenteloco (659168) | about 5 months ago | (#47586919)

blog is writing on wall for YOU!

Re:In new-Soviet Russia (1)

Noah Haders (3621429) | about 5 months ago | (#47587133)

close but i got you better: in soviet russia your wall writes on you!

More details (4, Informative)

Arker (91948) | about 5 months ago | (#47586975)

This link [rt.com] puts a little meat on the bones, though the story is still sketchy. Seems the law was aimed at 5 or 6 specific bloggers, though probably upwards of 500 could wind up being covered. ISPs not happy with it. Law purports to regulate Russian-language blogging, not limited by geography or physical placement. So a foreigner could theoretically run afoul of it if they publish in Russian (and become popular doing so) while a Russian could write anything they want without worry as long as they do it in another language?

In Soviet Russia (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47587015)

In Soviet Russia, Putin Blogs YOU!!

Seriously, this guy is way more like Leonid Brezhnev every day, and slowly turning more into Stalin every day. Now all that's really needed is a way to circumvent Putin's Iron Gateway.

Fragmentation (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47587035)

For the near-future, i.e. as of the day of the month and year that the law takes effect, bloggers will need to fragment their activities ... best to de-correlate transmissions par EM engineering. :-)

Ahhhh, so fuckin' what (1)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about 5 months ago | (#47587047)

Let all this crap be an incentive to develop better method of circumvention. The mightiest will always rule the universe.

In Soviet Russia... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47587099)

Blog reads you!

Context (4, Insightful)

Livius (318358) | about 5 months ago | (#47587113)

Not that it makes this kind of policy, but Russia has had authoritarian governments for 500 years. What's the US's excuse?

Re:Context (1)

Livius (318358) | about 5 months ago | (#47587139)

That should be:

Not that it makes this kind of policy okay, but Russia has had authoritarian governments for 500 years. What's the US's excuse?

Re:Context (1)

aardvarkjoe (156801) | about 5 months ago | (#47587411)

Russia has had authoritarian governments for 500 years. What's the US's excuse?

Well, we haven't existed for 500 years, but give us some time -- we'll match that record!

Re:Context (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47587955)

Post anything remotely anti-US, nomatter how off topic or wrong and get +4 insightful by default. Bigotry at work.

Russia... (1)

countach (534280) | about 5 months ago | (#47587119)

Russia has always been a very authoritarian state, even from well before Soviet times. But its a shame to see them going backwards like this. This ought to be the time for their freedoms to bloom, but alas.

if they were nicer to the u.s. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47587127)

they could just ask them for any data they want.

Freenet? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47587151)

I wonder if this means that running Freenet is illegal in Russia now? An incalculable percentage of any given site will preside on systems in Russia, but there's no way of telling who is making a request, or if any given request belongs to any given Russian blog site. Also, with no way to count pageviews on inserted content, how do you know when you need to register with the state?

Yay Putin (1)

Tailhook (98486) | about 5 months ago | (#47587197)

Russia; cultivate your masculinity and say bad things about America and you too can install yourself for life.

This is just propagandic spin for Dumb Westerners. (0, Troll)

Fantastic Lad (198284) | about 5 months ago | (#47587523)

From RT:
http://rt.com/politics/177248-... [rt.com]

Such authors will now have to register with the state watchdog Roskomnadzor, disclose their real identity and follow the same rules as journalists working in conventional state-registered mass media.

  The restrictions include the demand to verify information before publishing it and abstain from releasing reports containing slander, hate speech, extremist calls or other banned information such as, for example, advice on suicide. Also, the law bans popular bloggers from using obscene language, drawing heavy criticism and mockery from the online crowd.

So.., now you're not legally allowed to lie to a large number of people or incite violence based on those lies. Gee. That's bad how? Might be nice to have something like that in the West, because right now it's perfectly legal for FOX News to outright lie to their viewers.

Russia, like any large nation the US hates, (see Venezuela) must defend against the standard CIA tactics used to de-stabilize governments and population bases through grass roots propaganda tactics. Forcing creeps and liars out of the game seems like a pretty good way to do this. You don't want to be forced out? Then follow the law and back up your claims with fact checking verification of what you are writing, don't use hate speech and don't incite violence. How hard is that?

There's a reason you're not allowed to yell "Fire" in a crowded theater, and this falls neatly beneath the same rubric.

Honestly, think of the gossips and cruel kids in school spreading lies in deliberate attempts to undermine healthy energies. Putin has the guts to whip the carpet out from under such types.

So now, once you reach 3000 readers, the Russian government says you are a news source with real pull and must start acting in a manner befitting such responsibility. Is 3000 the right magic number to have picked? I don't know, but it makes perfect sense to draw a line somewhere.

Of course, any law can be abused, but right now I don't see this as an abuse. I see it as a sensible measure as Russia is under increasing media attack by a truly psychopathic nation whose leadership is completely disconnected from objective reality, has a tail-spinning economy and seemingly bottomless war lust. Of course you have to take measures to protect your populace from that kind of sickness.

But naturally, this proactive move is being spun with wicked and/or childish glee in the West (depending on whether you are CIA or just ignorant and easily led).

Re:This is just propagandic spin for Dumb Westerne (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47587705)

Do the Russians pay you with Rubles or Dollars?

Re:This is just propagandic spin for Dumb Westerne (1)

ultranova (717540) | about 5 months ago | (#47587759)

I didn't know cold_fjord has kin in Russia. Small world, eh?

Sucks (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47587555)

This btw really sucks for Russian internet startups, because it prevents them from using AWS, GCE or other cloud services, which don't have DCs in Russia. So they start out with a disadvantage now compared to startups everywhere else in the world.

Then again, able-minded Russian startup entrepreneurs are flowing out of the country in droves anyway.

Now we see the violence inherent in the system (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47587631)

Help! Help! I'm being repressed.

-MPatHG

in the Soviet America (1)

superwiz (655733) | about 5 months ago | (#47587661)

The government registers you.

TOR (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47587691)

This is probably why he offers a bounty for anyone to break TOR.

Hammer is coming down and dumb Russians will probably love him even more when he gives them some flimsy excuse.

bloggers are journalists now (2)

Tom (822) | about 5 months ago | (#47587781)

"bloggers with at least 3,000 daily readers must register with Roskomnadzor, the regulator that also oversees Russia's main media outlets."

Ironically, it also means that bloggers are now treated the same as journalists - isn't that what they've wanted for years? ;-)

We already had this... in finland for years (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#47587785)

It's formulated so that corporations that offer those blogs or commentaries like in news papers are responsible (ie if theres anonymous racist comment paper has to pay atleast in theory)

NSA still wiretapping the whole world (1)

mnt (1796310) | about 5 months ago | (#47587815)

and it seems people care more about russia
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